A Conservatives assessment of the Iran war

Is it? Or is it round 23? Wasn't Iran supporting the anti-Americans in Iraq? Wouldn't that count as a round?




Lefties always lie to create division. IF he just said that the war was a bad idea, that would give you common ground and you could reasonablel discuss it.

The leftard wants to exaggerate the issue to the point where he can pretend that you are a bad person for not immediately agreeing with him, and thus, he can gin up mob hate directed at you.

A very strange observation to make, since it was the United States that attacked Iran (twice), and not the other way around.

Israel has attacked, invaded, and tried to destabalize Lebanon since the 1940's.

And, of course, there is their hundred times over invasion of Gaza in response to a one day horrific attack that killed 1500 Israelis. They have been destroying and attacking Gaza ever since.

Iran is just stalling for time

They are running out the clock till the midterms and/or the 2028 election when trump will be gone

If a democrat becomes president the jihadi’s are home free

Vance is hurting his chances to win the nomination by letting the iranians b@tch slap him at every opportunity


Yeah well now the US is funding Iran apparently. 🙄


 
Our military/industrial complex is a disgrace. We have spent untold trillions on many different white elephant systems over the decades, and we have no idea that this form of warfare did not exist!!! Perhaps they could not make enough profits on this form of war. After the first volleys of a war with China, we are up shits creek.
Any war with a nuclear state is bound to become a nuclear exchange.

As soon as one side sees that it is lost… nukes away
 
Any war with a nuclear state is bound to become a nuclear exchange.

As soon as one side sees that it is lost… nukes away
Whether one approves of the Iran conflict or not we know at least behind the scenes are weaknesses. I would trust upstart companies with true abilities and not someone's friend over the established ones and then rid ourselves of those involved in the military/industrial complex. Eventually they will get many Americans killed for their greed and incompetence.
 
Mike Pence sold his soul to be Trump's VP. I said the whole time he had hitched his evangelical horse to a hellbound wagon, and he paid a heavy price for it. Trump tried to get him hanged on January 6.

JD Vance saw Trump as America's Hitler, but then he grew a beard (very symbolic!) and also sold his soul to be Trump's VP. Now Trump is going to make Iran the albatross around Vance's neck, and Vance was opposed to the war!

I am so sick of these weak men who collapse their morals on a whim to this demonic force. And not just Pence and Vance. MAGA Christian Mike Johnson and the entire Republican Congress are submissive cucks who will have an accounting one day.

They never learn.
 
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The $300 billion is not coming from the US but rather the Arab Gulf oil states

The kicker for me is that iran has no intention of giving up its nuclear weapons program

I think trump is making concession to reopen the Strait of Hormuz because he is wortied about the midterm elections

And that is a sin for the mullahs

A “sane Europe”????????

They know better than to follow an incompetent President into another forever war in the Middle East!
 
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The $300 billion is not coming from the US but rather the Arab Gulf oil states

The kicker for me is that iran has no intention of giving up its nuclear weapons program

I think trump is making concession to reopen the Strait of Hormuz because he is wortied about the midterm elections

And that is a sin for the mullahs

What gives you the notion that any of the Gulf States are going to finance the $300 billion?

Please don't make a fool of yourself by saying that Trump said it would. We all know what that's worth.
 
What gives you the notion that any of the Gulf States are going to finance the $300 billion?

Please don't make a fool of yourself by saying that Trump said it would. We all know what that's worth.
Thats what we have been told by JD Vance


If your lib know it all crystal ball tells you otherwise please let us know
 
Thats what we have been told by JD Vance


If your lib know it all crystal ball tells you otherwise please let us know
$300 billion is a very specific number, yet neither Vance nor Trump have stated who specifically is ponying up that money.

And no one has stepped up to say they are.
 
Yes, I’ll believe that when I see it

Once Iran has the money in its pocket it will be spent on rockets and drones from china not corn and wheat in the US


True, good point. My point was though that the Trump administration is doing this shit and I've already posted a separate thread about this and there are Trump supporters on here going along with it!! Just imagine if it was the Biden administration!! You're one of the few sane ones still left on the right who realizes that something is really wrong here.
 
The times they are a changing.

My next door neighbors are MAGAs. Very nice people. We get along.

They used to have a flag with that famous Fight Fight Fight image of Trump hanging in their garage.

Since the start of Trump's "No New Wars" disaster in Iran, they've taken it down.

Little by little.
 
True, good point. My point was though that the Trump administration is doing this shit and I've already posted a separate thread about this and there are Trump supporters on here going along with it!! Just imagine if it was the Biden administration!! You're one of the few sane ones still left on the right who realizes that something is really wrong here.
The thing is for MAGAs its impossible to carry on a rational conversation with trump haters

If you concede an inch they demand a mile, and trump’s head on a stick

Extreme partisanship on one side breeds the same in reverse
 
The times they are a changing.

My next door neighbors are MAGAs. Very nice people. We get along.

They used to have a flag with that famous Fight Fight Fight image of Trump hanging in their garage.

Since the start of Trump's "No New Wars" disaster in Iran, they've taken it down.

Little by little.
You wont let up till they bow to Gaven Newsom or kamala Harris

There is no in between for libs
 
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We bombed the shit out of them for weeks. We killed them by the thousands.

HOw is this a loss for America?
It's a loss because America didn't accomplish a single one of its stated goals. On top of that, we lost (at least) 13 soldiers and $Billions in military assets (not to mention several military facilities/bases). Our economy tanked for several months (and still hasn't recovered).

Trump lost a ton of credibility with his perpetual flip-flopping and likely lost your midterms for you. (I'm not a Republican or a Democrat so it's not a win or loss for me).

So how is it a win for America?
 
The thing is for MAGAs its impossible to carry on a rational conversation with trump haters

If you concede an inch they demand a mile, and trump’s head on a stick

Extreme partisanship on one side breeds the same in reverse



The thing is though that I don't hate Trump. I just can't seem to figure out what made him completely lose his mind.
 
The thing is though that I don't hate Trump. I just can't seem to figure out what made him completely lose his mind.
I dont think trump has lost his mind and shame on you for sensationalizing this conversation

The United States is being threatened by nuclear weapons and ICBMs

Trump responded by trying to overthrow the enemy regime snd failed because of its ability to close the Strait if Hormuz

If we cant solve that problem the consequences will be catastrophic
 
Thats what we have been told by JD Vance


If your lib know it all crystal ball tells you otherwise please let us know
I already did.

The Gulf Arab states that we failed to protect from Iranian drones aren't going to pony up $300 billion so the Fool in the White House can pretend that Americans didn't actually pay it.

He's trying to pull the same shell game over his "ballroom", on a different level.

Only hard core Trumpsters believe any of it, anymore.
 

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