Make sure nobody knows what is happening in the oceans

[Concerned American]

OK, let's give Iran the power over Hormuz, and pull out our military. Let's make all existing fossil fuel corporations pay in full for the superfund sites created by past use of gas, oil, and coal. Let us make it mandatory that the same rate of taxation applies to all income, rather than making the real rate for the very wealthy a fraction of what the middle class pays. Let us fix SS forever by making the 6.2% I paid all my working life apply to all income, no matter what the source. There, we have fixed some major problems. We don't need fancy ballrooms when we have one less than a mile from the proposed one. We don't need an Arc de Trump, an eyesore commemorating the worst President in our history. We need energy quickly, something that nuclear or gas cannot provide because of the construction time, but that renewables can. Time for you Trumpanzees to wake up to reality.

Run along and stick your TDS up your nose. You're unhinged.

 

[Old Rocks]

Support for renewable energy like the democrat movements to rip out hydroelectric on the lower Snake? Like that? You talk out both sides of your mouth while you spend other people's money on your pipe dreams.

The idea is to bring back the salmon runs. Now I have a solution. Build canals around the dams that the fish can use for their runs. Pay for it out of the profits from the generation of the dams. There was a time that we took over two million salmon out of the Columbia system without affecting the runs. We destroyed that with the dams. The Grand Coulee Dam stopped the run of June lunkers, salmon that used to run as big as 90 lbs.

 

[Old Rocks]

Run along and stick your TDS up your nose. You're unhinged.

Now you really love that $5+ gasoline, don't you. $10 hamburger, ain't it wonderful. Ah, how wonderful to continue to kiss the orange ass.

 

[Concerned American]

Now you really love that $5+ gasoline, don't you. $10 hamburger, ain't it wonderful. Ah, how wonderful to continue to kiss the orange ass.

Again, unhinged---AND WAY OFF TOPIC. Are you off of your meds?

 

[Old Rocks]

Paying millions of dollars that we don't have to monitor ocean temps is a waste that serves no purpose. If you want to know what the temp of the ocean is USE YOUR MONEY. Again, you sure are eager to spend money you don't have--are you personally in debt beyond your ability to ever pay it back? If you live your life like your are advocating for the government to do, you are and why am I not surprised.

LOL Greedy Old Pervert party has added more debt per term than the Democrats. Also, that includes the debts from WW2 and the First Great Republican Depression which had a Democratic President, very fortunately.

 

[Old Rocks]

Again, unhinged---AND WAY OFF TOPIC. Are you off of your meds?

Lordy, lordy. Yes way off topic. So, back on topic. You would have had the USA limited to the original colonies if you had your way. And laissez faire capitalism would have us as a third world backwater. Scientific research and government sponsored exploration has been one of the strong points of the development of our nation. It must be continued and will be continued when we rid ourselves of the anti-science Trumpanzee admin. But it will take a decade to catch back up, and for the next 2 and 1/2 years we may be caught off guard by something that these programs would have warned us about. And then you will certainly blame the scientists for not warning us.

 

[Concerned American]

Lordy, lordy. Yes way off topic. So, back on topic. You would have had the USA limited to the original colonies if you had your way. And laissez faire capitalism would have us as a third world backwater. Scientific research and government sponsored exploration has been one of the strong points of the development of our nation. It must be continued and will be continued when we rid ourselves of the anti-science Trumpanzee admin. But it will take a decade to catch back up, and for the next 2 and 1/2 years we may be caught off guard by something that these programs would have warned us about. And then you will certainly blame the scientists for not warning us.

Your post is Off topic. The program that is addressed in the OP HAS NO RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. It is an expensive make work program for greenies that adds to an already astronomical debt and it has rightfully been shut down.

 

[Old Rocks]

Your post is Off topic. The program that is addressed in the OP HAS NO RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. It is an expensive make work program for greenies that adds to an already astronomical debt and it has rightfully been shut down.

And you are a know nothing liar. Forewarned is forearmed. Be Prepared. Against stick your head in the sand, and be as willfully ignorant as possible.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hilarious

Like daddy said during COVID, why test because it just leads to more cases. We need to stop testing and the problem will go away.

Right

Became a money racket.

Knew a couple went to get tested. After taking forever they went home.

Got a call that they tested positive. Yet they NEVER GOT TESTED.

Money CORRUPTS

 

[toobfreak]

renewable energy. Not only is it the least costly to install and maintain,

It is least costly only because it individually contributes the least to the total grid (one wind farm or one solar farm) compared to a nuclear or hydro plant, but has the shortest life. While a hydro planet etc., might last a century, a wind/solar farm usefullness is measured in a few decades. That is why the ground is full of old, broken wind blades and solar panels but no nuclear or hydro plants.

it needs far less infrastructure than does fossil fuel generation.

Only because these renewable energies are a temporary installation.

And it produces no pollution while generating power.

WHILE generating power; too bad that doesn't cover the real total picture from inception, mining, manufacturing, maintenance to disposal.

All they are trying to conserve and expand is the wealth of the already obscenely wealthy.

Yeah, let's not preserve that. What a better world it would be if NO ONE was successful nor made the profits necessary to open big companies hiring lots of people, never mind pay all of the federal taxes.

 

[Old Rocks]

MSN

 

[Old Rocks]

It is least costly only because it individually contributes the least to the total grid (one wind farm or one solar farm) compared to a nuclear or hydro plant, but has the shortest life. While a hydro planet etc., might last a century, a wind/solar farm usefullness is measured in a few decades. That is why the ground is full of old, broken wind blades and solar panels but no nuclear or hydro plants.


Only because these renewable energies are a temporary installation.


WHILE generating power; too bad that doesn't cover the real total picture from inception, mining, manufacturing, maintenance to disposal.


Yeah, let's not preserve that. What a better world it would be if NO ONE was successful nor made the profits necessary to open big companies hiring lots of people, never mind pay all of the federal taxes.

Hydro dams are limited in life. Eventually the silt up. And that dam and turbines are far more costly than solar and wind. Both the blades and panels can be processed for the materials in them.

The ground is not full of old nuclear plants? LOL




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What Happens to Metals from a Nuclear Plant​

When nuclear fuel is removed from a reactor, the metallic components — such as the cladding tubes, structural parts, and other reactor materials — are part of the radioactive waste stream. These metals are not “used up” in the fission process; instead, they become radioactive activation products due to neutron bombardment inside the reactor iere.org.

How Metals Become Radioactive​

Inside the reactor core, the intense neutron flux activates the atoms in metal components. This means stable isotopes in the metal absorb neutrons and transform into radioactive isotopes. For example, iron in steel can become radioactive iron-55, and other elements in coolant pipes or control rods can form long-lived isotopes iere.org.

Classification of the Waste​

• High-Level Waste (HLW): The most radioactive portion comes from spent fuel assemblies, which include the ceramic uranium pellets inside metal cladding. After fission, these pellets are surrounded by highly radioactive fission products (like cesium-137 and strontium-90) and transuranic elements (like plutonium) Wikipedia+1.
• Intermediate-Level Waste (ILW): This includes activated reactor components such as reactor vessels, piping, and control rods. These metals are less radioactive than spent fuel but still require shielding and secure storage iere.org.
• Low-Level Waste (LLW): Some smaller metal parts or contaminated materials are classified as LLW and can be disposed of in near-surface facilities NRC.

Storage and Disposal​

• Spent fuel assemblies are initially stored in spent fuel pools at the reactor site for several years to cool and allow short-lived radioactivity to decay Wikipedia.
• After cooling, they may be moved to dry cask storage for decades while awaiting permanent disposal.
• Activated metals from reactor components are often sent to specialized reprocessing or disposal facilities. In some cases, they are treated to remove or reduce radioactivity before disposal World Nuclear Association.
• The international consensus for permanent disposal of high-level waste is deep geological repositories, where waste is isolated from the biosphere for thousands of years World Nuclear Association.

Long-Term Fate​

Over time, the radioactivity in these metals decreases as isotopes decay. Short-lived isotopes (hours to decades) decay quickly, but long-lived isotopes (thousands of years) remain hazardous for millennia NRC. Proper containment ensures that the metals’ radioactivity diminishes to safe levels before they can be released from the waste stream.

In summary: Metals from a nuclear plant become radioactive through neutron activation, are classified as HLW, ILW, or LLW depending on their radioactivity, and are stored or disposed of in engineered facilities to protect human health and the environment until they decay to safe levels.

 

[EMH]

Bull shit.



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The 1990s were the most active decade for hurricanes striking the United States, with 31 hurricanes affecting the nation during that period Wikipedia. This was the highest number of U.S. hurricane strikes in any decade on record, far exceeding the 15 hurricanes seen in the 1860s and 1970s Wikipedia.

While the 1990s saw the most frequent strikes, the deadliest and costliest hurricanes in U.S. history occurred in other decades. For example:

• 1900 – The Great Galveston Hurricane killed between 8,000 and 12,000 people, making it the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history weatheronthisday.com+1.
• 2005 – Hurricane Katrina caused over 1,800 deaths and $201 billion in damages, the costliest hurricane in U.S. history www.countryadventures.net.
• 2017 – Hurricane Maria killed 2,975 people in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands weatheronthisday.com.

In summary, if you’re asking about most damaging hurricanes overall, the 1900s and 2000s stand out for extreme death tolls and economic impact. But if you mean most frequent strikes, the 1990s hold the record for the highest number of U.S. hurricane landfalls in a single decade.

The ACTUAL DATA shows YOUR SIDE LIES and FUDGES DATA...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

 

[EMH]

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Decade with the Most Powerful Hurricane Landfalls Worldwide​

Based on the most recent global hurricane landfall data, the 2020s have seen the most powerful hurricane landfalls worldwide since consistent records began in 1970.

According to updated research from the Center for the Study of Earth Observations, 2024 — the most recent year in the 2020s — had 11 major hurricane landfalls (Category 3 or higher) and 24 total hurricane landfalls (Category 1 and higher) ctse.aei.org. This number of major hurricane landfalls tied only with 2015 and ranked as the third most in any year since 1970, behind 1971 (30 total landfalls) and 1996 (25 total) ctse.aei.org.

While the 2020s as a whole have not yet surpassed the total landfall counts of the 1970s and 1990s, the decade has been marked by an upward trend in major hurricane landfalls since 1970, with no long-term trend in minor hurricane landfalls ctse.aei.org. This suggests that the 2020s have been a period of heightened major hurricane activity globally.

Key points:

• 2024 was the most recent year with 11 major hurricane landfalls, tying 2015 ctse.aei.org.
• The 2020s as a decade have been the most active in terms of powerful (major) hurricane landfalls since 1970.
• Global data since 1970 shows a statistical increase in major hurricane landfalls, though the IPCC notes low confidence in long-term trends due to natural variability ctse.aei.org.

In summary, if you are looking at the most powerful hurricanes making landfall worldwide, the 2020s stand out as the decade with the highest recent activity in major hurricane landfalls.

The last time a Cat 5 got as far north as Martha's Vineyard was 1938....

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[Old Rocks]

It is least costly only because it individually contributes the least to the total grid (one wind farm or one solar farm) compared to a nuclear or hydro plant, but has the shortest life. While a hydro planet etc., might last a century, a wind/solar farm usefullness is measured in a few decades. That is why the ground is full of old, broken wind blades and solar panels but no nuclear or hydro plants.


Only because these renewable energies are a temporary installation.


WHILE generating power; too bad that doesn't cover the real total picture from inception, mining, manufacturing, maintenance to disposal.


Yeah, let's not preserve that. What a better world it would be if NO ONE was successful nor made the profits necessary to open big companies hiring lots of people, never mind pay all of the federal taxes.

OK, what is the picture of nuclear and fossil fuel plants from inception, mining, manufacturing, maintenance, and disposal? How much of that can be recycled? What about whole poisoned watershed from coal? How many pools do we have full of nuclear waste that can create a major hazard?

We are seeing what the power of the billionaires is right now. The termination of scientific research, the termination of health protection not only for humans but also for livestock. The reduction of our ability to fight wildfires at a time when they are increasing in burned area and human impact. And they are called the Epstein class for a reason. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And many, like Musk, have exercised that kind of power to the detriment of many people all over the world. All too many times we see people who were decent gain great wealth, and become a danger to the rest of us. That is the peril of capitalism, even Adam Smith recognized that. I am not against capitalism and business, I am against people becoming so powerful they simply run over everyone else pursuing even more wealth and power. We are seeing that right now in the siting of data centers.

 

[Old Rocks]

The last time a Cat 5 got as far north as Martha's Vineyard was 1938....

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The East Coast might be your whole world, but it is not for the rest of us.

 

[EMH]

The East Coast might be your whole world, but it is not for the rest of us.

If there were more and larger canes there would be canes exceeding the 1938 one, but there aren't.

Your side fudges data and lies.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Au contraire--the tunnel vision is all yours and the spend spend spend democrats. ANY COCKAMAMIE SCHEME can be justified to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money. YOU'RE $39 TRILLION IN DEBT with no logical way to pay it off and no effort made to move in that direction for the last 50 years at least. Millions of dollars to measure the temperature change in the ocean is ridiculous. Nothing man can do will change the results of what is determined anyway---all while you turn a blind eye to ever-increasing piles of garbage that are floating in the ocean THAT HUMANS CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON and WILL GIVE A RETURN ON THE MONEY INVESTED. The program in question is MAKE WORK with no reason for existence.

Your anti science diatribe is pathetic. and your ravings are increasingly boring.

Most of the floating garbage problem are in Asia and I have seen it firsthand in the Philippines.

The debt will never go away because too many people vote for the wrong people into office including Trump who isn't even trying anymore after the small reductions of waste in the DOGE fun last year has ended the same President who wants to lord it over the world thus requesting an additional $500 BILLION yearly into the already existing $1 Trillion military budget so he can try forcing nations into complying to servitude.

 

[yidnar]

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The Philippines is currently the largest contributor to ocean plastic pollution, followed by India, Malaysia, China, and Indonesia.​

Key Contributors​

The Philippines tops the list, with 4,820 rivers emitting approximately 356,371 metric tons of plastic waste into the ocean annually, accounting for 8.8% of the country’s total mismanaged plastic waste viborc.com. India follows, contributing 126,513 metric tons per year through 1,169 rivers, while Malaysia contributes 73,098 metric tons via 1,070 rivers viborc.com. China and Indonesia are also major contributors, with China’s 1,309 rivers releasing 70,707 metric tons annually viborc.com+1. Collectively, these Asian countries are responsible for the majority of ocean plastic pollution, with Asia accounting for 81% of all ocean plastic shunwaste.com.

Factors Behind High Contributions​

Several factors drive these countries’ high pollution levels:

• Population density and urbanization: High population centers near rivers increase plastic waste runoff into oceans viborc.com+1.
• Inadequate waste management: Poor infrastructure and mismanaged plastic waste lead to higher leakage into rivers and seas viborc.com+1.
• Riverine transport: Rivers act as major conduits, carrying plastic from inland areas to the ocean viborc.com+1.
• Industrial and agricultural runoff: Untreated industrial wastewater and agricultural chemicals exacerbate ocean pollution, particularly in developing countries iere.org.

Notable Insights​

• Developed countries like the United States generate large amounts of plastic but have effective waste management systems, preventing most waste from reaching the ocean viborc.com+1.
• Ocean pollution is not limited to plastic; it also includes untreated sewage, industrial chemicals, and agricultural runoff, which collectively degrade marine ecosystems iere.org.

Conclusion​

While multiple countries contribute to ocean pollution, the Philippines, India, Malaysia, China, and Indonesia are the top contributors, primarily due to mismanaged plastic waste and riverine transport. Addressing this issue requires improved waste management, international cooperation, and targeted mitigation strategies to reduce the flow of pollutants into the oceans viborc.com+2.

like I said .. China is one of the biggest polluters of the oceans .

 

[otto105]

Became a money racket.

Knew a couple went to get tested. After taking forever they went home.

Got a call that they tested positive. Yet they NEVER GOT TESTED.

Money CORRUPTS

His ballroom is a money racket.

His inauguration fund was a money racket.

His kissing the ass of the Saudi's is a money racket.

His pay for pardons is a money racket.

His directing no-bid government contracts to family is a money racket.