63 Million

[kyzr]

I agree. They aren't willing to make the personal sacrifices to have a larger family.

What personal sacrifices?
Today we need two incomes just to survive. Kids are very expensive, especially college expenses.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Not really your call for others.

When did I say it was?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What personal sacrifices?

Maybe they don't need a $1,000 smart phone or a $150 a month cable, satellite, streaming bill. Maybe they don't need cartons of beer or cases of cigarettes. Maybe they don't need to waste money on junk food. Maybe cut back on the lottery tickets. Maybe buy an older used car or wear hand me down clothes. I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Today we need two incomes just to survive.

And yet I know people on one income who do it.

Kids are very expensive, especially college expenses.

When have kids not been expensive? Furthermore, who said there has to be college expenses? There are plenty of skilled trades jobs going unfilled that pay just as good, if not better, than many white collar jobs without the excessive education expense. Additionally, who said you had to pay for your kid's college? My parents didn't pay for me.

 

[BrokeLoser]

What personal sacrifices?
Today we need two incomes just to survive. Kids are very expensive, especially college expenses.

Pursuing travel and hobbies I suppose.
The wage of the blue collar trade worker must be resurrected…Electricians need to be able to save and buy homes again…The trades must be restored by sending 50 million illegals home, only then will we see a return of the middle class.
Here in Mexifornia quality people simply don’t want to raise children in a shithole that feels like Mexico, where western culture has been lost.

 

[Meister]

Here's the thing anti-immigrant bigots don't get.

First, they believe the Democrats plan to register them all as Democrats.

The thing about immigrants is they are hard workers, very family-oriented, and deeply religious. The immigrants from south of our border are devout Christians.

In other words, they possess all the qualities the Republican pay lip service to.

However, the message they get from Republicans is they bring crime, they are rapists, and they are all drug runners, and only "some" are good people.

For the same reason blacks registger as Democrats, you cannot expect people to register with a party which so clearly, brazenly, and unequivocally HATES them.

In other words, Republicans are lying about what they believe in. They believe in a president who is an adulterer, a thief, a rapist, and who is antithetical to every religious principle.

Do you honestly believe God is going to bless a nation with a beast at its head?

We need immigrants as much as they need us. They are industrious and believe in our founding principles more that we do.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? LEGAL IMMIGRANTS
Learn the difference, it makes a big difference with your rant.

 

[Hafar1014]

Birth rates are dropping all around the world.

To sustain a stable population, the birth rate needs to be 2.1 children per female. If the replacement rate drops below 2.1, serious economic problems begin to occur. For example, the ratio of active workers to retirees shrinks, resulting in a greater tax burden on workers to support the elderly. We are down to 2.7 workers per Social Security recipient and are facing bankrupty of the Social Security system in a few short years.

The United States birth rate was 3.65 in 1960. It has declined steadily to the present rate of 1.62. There is no evidence this trend will change.

Since Roe v. Wade, America has killed 63 million fetuses in the womb. This would have reversed the declining birth rate necessary to sustain our population.

I was watching a video about declining birth rates last night, when my wife said, "We should outlaw abortion."

One of many reasons I married her.

The country with the lowest birth rate is South Korea. They stand at a shocking 0.73.

They are followed by Hong Kong at 0.78, Singapore, Taiwan, and Macau at 1.2.

China really shot themselve in the face with their One Child Policy and stand at 1.0. They have repealed the One Child Policy for that reason.

Abortion is legal in all these countries, although in South Korea it has only been legal since 2019.

Fox News viewers will be pleased to hear the countries with the highest birth rates are Chad at 9.4, Somalia at 9.1, Congo at 5.9, the Central African Republic at 5.81, and Niger at 5.79.

Fox News viewers will also be pleased to hear those countries do not top the list of countries with the highest death rates. Not even close.


The United States is only just now pondering what to do about our low birth rate. Tucker Carlson believes shining red light on your balls will solve the problem. I kid you not.

Other countries, especially in Asia, have been working on this problem for a long time. Cash incentives and so forth. All attempts have failed.


There is one other solution aside from banning abortion which is guaranteed to be successful.


Immigration. Lots of immigration.

We have 63 million unborn to replace.

Over 63 million abortions have occurred in the US since Roe v. Wade decision in 1973

More than 63 million abortions are estimated to have taken place in the U.S. since the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling, according to one analysis.

www.foxnews.com

U.S. Birth Rate (1950-2025)

Crude birth rate indicates the number of live births occurring during the year, per 1,000 population estimated at midyear. Subtracting the crude death rate from the crude birth rate provides the rate of natural increase, which is equal to the rate of population change in the absence of migration.

www.macrotrends.net

Legal selective vetted limited immigration

 

[Meister]

Immigrants to this country have contributed massively to our economy.

Ever heard of Elon Musk?

Elon came over legally.

 

[Lisa558]

Winning post. I look at this young couple that lives next door to my daughter. They just had their first child 9 days ago. The wife is already back to work full time and the baby is in daycare all day. They couldnt afford to have her stay home. Thats tough going.

Do they live in a house? Perhaps a modest 1-bedroom would be better for at least a year so the mother could stay home.

 

[Lisa558]

No i dont. I am an advocate for higher wages for american workers to be able to afford a family. Imagine bringing a nine day old baby to daycare for over 40 hours per week so you can just barely squeak by. Hard to fathom but reality for millions.

You mean this couple had a baby without even a few months’ of savings so the mother wouldn’t have to race back to work?

 

[Meister]

Without immigration, our economy would be way worse.

I know you mean "immigration" and not illegal immigration.

 

[Marener]

Elon came over legally.

According to his brother, they committed VISA fraud.

That said, legal immigration isn’t going so well either.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fewer-foreign-students-fewer-dollars-us-colleges-feel-pinch-2025-10-02/

 

[kyzr]

Maybe they don't need a $1,000 smart phone or a $150 a month cable, satellite, streaming bill. Maybe they don't need cartons of beer or cases of cigarettes. Maybe they don't need to waste money on junk food. Maybe cut back on the lottery tickets. Maybe buy an older used car or wear hand me down clothes. I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Those are a good start, but most people can't afford kids on average salaries, with the cost of housing and food.

And yet I know people on one income who do it.

I don't.

When have kids not been expensive? Furthermore, who said there has to be college expenses? There are plenty of skilled trades jobs going unfilled that pay just as good, if not better, than many white collar jobs without the excessive education expense. Additionally, who said you had to pay for your kid's college? My parents didn't pay for me.

True. We helped our daughter with her student loan. She flipped two houses after remodeling "fixer-uppers".
Our son didn't attend college, and he has a fine career, to your point.

 

[initforme]

You mean this couple had a baby without even a few months’ of savings so the mother wouldn’t have to race back to work?

Yep. They couldnt keep their house without her working full time plus overtime hours, so now the baby goes to daycare for upwards of 9 hours. Ive been saying it makes sense to garner some savings before having a child and it offends many here. I call it being responsible.

 

[whitehall]

We get lectures from the TDS left about a "sustainable population" when they have been advocating unrestricted abortions since the 1960's. Is it the left's plan to replace the sons and daughters of American citizens with the riff-raff criminals with open borders?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Without immigration, our economy would be way worse.

According to his brother, they committed VISA fraud.

That said, legal immigration isn’t going so well either.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fewer-foreign-students-fewer-dollars-us-colleges-feel-pinch-2025-10-02/

Listen to yourself for a minute…you’re trying real hard to convince people that civilized, wealthy, advanced, powerful first world nations are made better by uncivilized, poor, illiterate, desperate third worlders that don’t even speak the language….Do you realize what that sounds like to a sane mind?
We hear “African slaves made America great!”

 

[Meister]

According to his brother, they committed VISA fraud.

That said, legal immigration isn’t going so well either.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fewer-foreign-students-fewer-dollars-us-colleges-feel-pinch-2025-10-02/

According to who??

 

[initforme]

We get lectures from the TDS left about a "sustainable population" when they have been advocating unrestricted abortions since the 1960's. Is it the left's plan to replace the sons and daughters of American citizens with the riff-raff criminals with open borders?

Our population is not in any crisis. Abortion is in the hands of each states voters. Things are fine. Perhaps it helps that young couples arent having kids they cannot afford? Food for thought.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Our population is not in any crisis. Abortion is in the hands of each states voters. Things are fine. Perhaps it helps that young couples arent having kids they cannot afford? Food for thought.

Our population NEEDS to decrease by 40-50 illegals, much of their spawn and everybody imported to service that population that never should have existed. How many Dr Patels were imported just to service the alien enemy population?

 

[22lcidw]

Here's the thing anti-immigrant bigots don't get.

First, they believe the Democrats plan to register them all as Democrats.

The thing about immigrants is they are hard workers, very family-oriented, and deeply religious. The immigrants from south of our border are devout Christians.

In other words, they possess all the qualities the Republican pay lip service to.

However, the message they get from Republicans is they bring crime, they are rapists, and they are all drug runners, and only "some" are good people.

For the same reason blacks registger as Democrats, you cannot expect people to register with a party which so clearly, brazenly, and unequivocally HATES them.

In other words, Republicans are lying about what they believe in. They believe in a president who is an adulterer, a thief, a rapist, and who is antithetical to every religious principle.

Do you honestly believe God is going to bless a nation with a beast at its head?

We need immigrants as much as they need us. They are industrious and believe in our founding principles more that we do.

Excessive illegals are not good. Most are not educated and do not have trades. The 1965 Immigration Act changed all of that. And there are many industrious people. Culture, language and borders. Immigrants that come here must assimilate into the American system. It takes many years for that to happen. Endless illegals compounds on itself.

 

[Lisa558]

Yep. They couldnt keep their house without her working full time plus overtime hours, so now the baby goes to daycare for upwards of 9 hours. Ive been saying it makes sense to garner some savings before having a child and it offends many here. I call it being responsible.

That’s their choice. They want a house, so that means Mom has to drop a 9-day old off at daycare.

They had other options. They could have bought a cheaper townhouse, or just rented an apartment. Then they could have put money away so that Mom could stay home with the baby.