63 Million

[Lisa558]

We get lectures from the TDS left about a "sustainable population" when they have been advocating unrestricted abortions since the 1960's. Is it the left's plan to replace the sons and daughters of American citizens with the riff-raff criminals with open borders?

A big part of the problem is that the people on welfare are the ones having four and five children, since other people have to support them, and the professional middle class must limit themselves to one or two since they have to support them.

 

[Marener]

According to who??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/26/elon-musk-immigration-status/

He came with a student visa but dropped out and started working, which was illegal.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A big part of the problem is that the people on welfare are the ones having four and five children, since other people have to support them, and the professional middle class must limit themselves to one or two since they have to support them.

When the scavengers outnumber the lions….what happens?

 

[Lisa558]

pknopp

What’s so funny about the choice I described? If it’s important for you to have a house and it takes two incomes, then you have chosen to have the mother go right back to work after having a baby.

If it’s important for the mother to stay home with the baby, then you go with a townhouse or condo for the first year or two. Virtually everyone in my circle chose the latter, and had their baby while they were in a townhouse or still renting an apartment.

 

[Lisa558]

When the scavengers outnumber the lions….what happens?
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Sounds like a great read. Thanks!

 

[Dekster]

America will be fine. we are better off with fewer people. We need fewer still.

 

[initforme]

That’s their choice. They want a house, so that means Mom has to drop a 9-day old off at daycare.

They had other options. They could have bought a cheaper townhouse, or just rented an apartment. Then they could have put money away so that Mom could stay home with the baby.

Well about that. Most rentals here are corpirate owned and they are very pricey. As much if not more than rentals. Corporates buy up and build complexes that are high priced. Their rental options were nil. So now theyre stuck. Buy a townhouse? Not a reality. Apartment rent expensive as a mortgage. Put money away? On top of a 10,000 dollar deductible, food, used vehicle payment, heat, electricity? Where does the extra come from?

 

[Lisa558]

Well about that. Most rentals here are corpirate owned and they are very pricey. As much if not more than rentals. Corporates buy up and build complexes that are high priced. Their rental options were nil. So now theyre stuck. Buy a townhouse? Not a reality. Apartment rent expensive as a mortgage. Put money away? On top of a 10,000 dollar deductible, food, used vehicle payment, heat, electricity? Where does the extra come from?

If they could buy a house, they could buy a townhouse for less than- and then put away the difference in savings. After a year or two, they could save enough to let the mother stay home with the baby - at least for a few months.

 

[pknopp]

pknopp

What’s so funny about the choice I described? If it’s important for you to have a house and it takes two incomes, then you have chosen to have the mother go right back to work after having a baby.

If it’s important for the mother to stay home with the baby, then you go with a townhouse or condo for the first year or two. Virtually everyone in my circle chose the latter, and had their baby while they were in a townhouse or still renting an apartment.

Just quit your job and save money. Lol

 

[initforme]

If they could buy a house, they could buy a townhouse for less than- and then put away the difference in savings. After a year or two, they could save enough to let the mother stay home with the baby - at least for a few months.

Corporate townhouses are more expensive than shabby rundown houses. They cant afford that. Not sure you understand todays america.

 

[initforme]

pknopp

What’s so funny about the choice I described? If it’s important for you to have a house and it takes two incomes, then you have chosen to have the mother go right back to work after having a baby.

If it’s important for the mother to stay home with the baby, then you go with a townhouse or condo for the first year or two. Virtually everyone in my circle chose the latter, and had their baby while they were in a townhouse or still renting an apartment.

They risk losing everything if the mother doesnt go back to work. Perhaps we dont need mothers staying home with the baby. Better off in daycare.

 

[Lisa558]

Just quit your job and save money. Lol

Duh. That’s not what I said. I said both spouses should work, pre-baby, but forget about a house for now. Go with a less expensive option, and then put away the DIFFERENCE for a year or two. Then, when you’ve put away at least six months, THEN have the baby and let Mom quit her job THEN and stay home for a while.

Birth control is a thing.

 

[initforme]

So saving a BIG nest egg before having a child is the best route. Age 33? Perfect. .ight have 2 full time workers each with 40 grand tuvked away. Then the mom can stay home for 6 weeks. Perfect.

 

[Lisa558]

They risk losing everything if the mother doesnt go back to work. Perhaps we dont need mothers staying home with the baby. Better off in daycare.

Only because they saddled themselves with a house. If they stayed in a cheaper alternative, they wouldn’t have that financial burden.

It was their choice.

 

[initforme]

Only because they saddled themselves with a house. If they stayed in a cheaper alternative, they wouldn’t have that financial burden.

It was their choice.

And if there is no cheaper alternative? Its ok to say dont have kids. Thats already happening. Its going to continue. Theres nothing negative about it.

 

[Clipper]

Correction, we can't afford to keep paying for kids that have parents who refuse to pay for them.

Yea & the middle class has had it up to here with lining the pockets of 2%ers & multi national corporations with tax cuts that are bankrupting this country since Ronny Ragon got the ball rolling on those giveaways with that orange menace continuing it, Lerch.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Birth rates are dropping all around the world.

To sustain a stable population, the birth rate needs to be 2.1 children per female. If the replacement rate drops below 2.1, serious economic problems begin to occur. For example, the ratio of active workers to retirees shrinks, resulting in a greater tax burden on workers to support the elderly. We are down to 2.7 workers per Social Security recipient and are facing bankrupty of the Social Security system in a few short years.

The United States birth rate was 3.65 in 1960. It has declined steadily to the present rate of 1.62. There is no evidence this trend will change.

Since Roe v. Wade, America has killed 63 million fetuses in the womb. This would have reversed the declining birth rate necessary to sustain our population.

I was watching a video about declining birth rates last night, when my wife said, "We should outlaw abortion."

One of many reasons I married her.

The country with the lowest birth rate is South Korea. They stand at a shocking 0.73.

They are followed by Hong Kong at 0.78, Singapore, Taiwan, and Macau at 1.2.

China really shot themselve in the face with their One Child Policy and stand at 1.0. They have repealed the One Child Policy for that reason.

Abortion is legal in all these countries, although in South Korea it has only been legal since 2019.

Fox News viewers will be pleased to hear the countries with the highest birth rates are Chad at 9.4, Somalia at 9.1, Congo at 5.9, the Central African Republic at 5.81, and Niger at 5.79.

Fox News viewers will also be pleased to hear those countries do not top the list of countries with the highest death rates. Not even close.


The United States is only just now pondering what to do about our low birth rate. Tucker Carlson believes shining red light on your balls will solve the problem. I kid you not.

Other countries, especially in Asia, have been working on this problem for a long time. Cash incentives and so forth. All attempts have failed.


There is one other solution aside from banning abortion which is guaranteed to be successful.


Immigration. Lots of immigration.

We have 63 million unborn to replace.

Over 63 million abortions have occurred in the US since Roe v. Wade decision in 1973

More than 63 million abortions are estimated to have taken place in the U.S. since the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling, according to one analysis.

www.foxnews.com

U.S. Birth Rate (1950-2025)

Crude birth rate indicates the number of live births occurring during the year, per 1,000 population estimated at midyear. Subtracting the crude death rate from the crude birth rate provides the rate of natural increase, which is equal to the rate of population change in the absence of migration.

www.macrotrends.net

Trump has a plan to take in more white people from south africa and europe


what do you think .

No more Somalians

 

[Clipper]

Only because they saddled themselves with a house. If they stayed in a cheaper alternative, they wouldn’t have that financial burden.

It was their choice.

Is it ok if they have running water?

 

[whitehall]

Our population is not in any crisis. Abortion is in the hands of each states voters. Things are fine. Perhaps it helps that young couples arent having kids they cannot afford? Food for thought.

Hiring technicians to kill the unborn children they think they might not be able to afford to raise in the greatest Nation in the world? Is that the concept the abortionist fans want to rely on?

 

[initforme]

Correction, we can't afford to keep paying for kids that have parents who refuse to pay for them.

So then holding off until a big nest egg is there is ok? Becauses a lot here who frown upon that.