48%: The Democratic Party needs to face an ugly reality

The Democrats offer concrete policies across the board, while the Trump cult offers only fear and hate.
Concrete policies?!? They had to be forced by their falling poll #'s to condemn the riots and violence.

Pollster: Biden denounces Kenosha violence after campaign ...

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden finally condemned the ongoing violence in Kenosha, Wis. and cities across the country after his campaign initially "misjudged how important it was to the American people," pollster and president of Maslansky & Partners, Lee Carter told “Fox & Friends Weekend” Sunday.

The Democrats act like patriots and decent human beings,

By backing and supporting the riots?

Democrats have not "supported" the riots. They have roundly condemned the violence from Day 1, but since your source and your link is to FOX News, it's not like you're getting facts or truth from the White House's personal TV network.

Get your head out of your ass and start get your news from NEWS networks, not the billionaire right wing media. They're lying to you and have been for 30 years.

"They've roundly condemned the violence from Day 1. My media masters TOLD me to start believing that last week, so now I'm sure that's what happened all along!"

Get your head out of your ass, and stop worrying about what people do and believe in countries that DON'T WANT YOU.

Get your head out of your own ass. You don't speak for anyone but yourself. I have hundreds of friends and family in the USA who tell me to keep speaking out against the dark forces which are taking over your country. Every day, another horror is revealed.

Last week, Trump started talking about "herd mentality". He seems to have been referring to "herd immunity" which one of his FOX News doctors (a radiologist) tells him is a good idea. Problem is it involves 215 million Americans getting sick, and more than 2 million Americans dying, to achieve it. Nevertheless, this is the new Trump Plan.

As long as fools like you continue to lie about Donald Trump and promote the politics of hate and division, I will be here to call you out on the dishonesty and the bullshit you're promoting.

Unlike you, I don't run around claiming to be the spokesperson for anyone but myself. I don't give a fuck if every member of your mentally-defective family lives in this country - not that I'm the slightest bit interested in taking anything that comes out of your toothless drool hole as fact. YOU don't live here, which makes what goes on here none of YOUR fucking business. And YOU are the alleged person to whom I am talking.

You're an idiot, you're lecturing Americans about what's happening in their country based on your "expertise" of having been told all about it by people who agree with you because they're as ignorant and evil as you are. Not one thing you have said here that was supposed to be a "righteous defense" of your posts has done anything except convince me even more that you are a sucking black hole of organic material that could be put to use by a more intelligent and meaningful life form . . . like sea sponge.

Mind your own business.

When you lie and promote a tyrant who is destroying your country, it is everyone’s business.

Yesterday it was revealed that immigrant women in one of the interment camps are being sterilized without their knowledge or consent.

First concentration camps on the border. Now Congress is investigating atrocities of the kind committed in Germany.

The world is watching. And we want you to know that.
You'll believe anything.

If it confirms her biases and lets her promote evil while telling herself she's "nice", she will.
Sterilizing someone without their permission is a crime. Anyone who believes American doctors would take such a risk are terminally gullible.
 
The Democrats offer concrete policies across the board, while the Trump cult offers only fear and hate.
Concrete policies?!? They had to be forced by their falling poll #'s to condemn the riots and violence.

Pollster: Biden denounces Kenosha violence after campaign ...

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden finally condemned the ongoing violence in Kenosha, Wis. and cities across the country after his campaign initially "misjudged how important it was to the American people," pollster and president of Maslansky & Partners, Lee Carter told “Fox & Friends Weekend” Sunday.

The Democrats act like patriots and decent human beings,

By backing and supporting the riots?

Democrats have not "supported" the riots. They have roundly condemned the violence from Day 1, but since your source and your link is to FOX News, it's not like you're getting facts or truth from the White House's personal TV network.

Get your head out of your ass and start get your news from NEWS networks, not the billionaire right wing media. They're lying to you and have been for 30 years.

"They've roundly condemned the violence from Day 1. My media masters TOLD me to start believing that last week, so now I'm sure that's what happened all along!"

Get your head out of your ass, and stop worrying about what people do and believe in countries that DON'T WANT YOU.

Get your head out of your own ass. You don't speak for anyone but yourself. I have hundreds of friends and family in the USA who tell me to keep speaking out against the dark forces which are taking over your country. Every day, another horror is revealed.

Last week, Trump started talking about "herd mentality". He seems to have been referring to "herd immunity" which one of his FOX News doctors (a radiologist) tells him is a good idea. Problem is it involves 215 million Americans getting sick, and more than 2 million Americans dying, to achieve it. Nevertheless, this is the new Trump Plan.

As long as fools like you continue to lie about Donald Trump and promote the politics of hate and division, I will be here to call you out on the dishonesty and the bullshit you're promoting.

Unlike you, I don't run around claiming to be the spokesperson for anyone but myself. I don't give a fuck if every member of your mentally-defective family lives in this country - not that I'm the slightest bit interested in taking anything that comes out of your toothless drool hole as fact. YOU don't live here, which makes what goes on here none of YOUR fucking business. And YOU are the alleged person to whom I am talking.

You're an idiot, you're lecturing Americans about what's happening in their country based on your "expertise" of having been told all about it by people who agree with you because they're as ignorant and evil as you are. Not one thing you have said here that was supposed to be a "righteous defense" of your posts has done anything except convince me even more that you are a sucking black hole of organic material that could be put to use by a more intelligent and meaningful life form . . . like sea sponge.

Mind your own business.

When you lie and promote a tyrant who is destroying your country, it is everyone’s business.

Yesterday it was revealed that immigrant women in one of the interment camps are being sterilized without their knowledge or consent.

First concentration camps on the border. Now Congress is investigating atrocities of the kind committed in Germany.

The world is watching. And we want you to know that.
You'll believe anything.

If it confirms her biases and lets her promote evil while telling herself she's "nice", she will.
Sterilizing someone without their permission is a crime. Anyone who believes American doctors would take such a risk are terminally gullible.

I know that. You know that. Deep down, LizardBitch probably knows that. But if she pretends to believe it's true, that justifies her promoting the most evil agenda imaginable while telling herself that she's the "good guy".
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.
 
Democrats are ordering police to stand down while cities burn, and people are murdered (even 1 year olds).

You think half of America is going to vote for that?

This is going to be the biggest landslide wipe-out in history!

Pretty sure what they think is that they're going to convince people to not-know what they know, by brainwashing them into believing that knowing what their eyes tell them makes them bad people.

Totalitarian dictatorships use this all the time, and you can see the leftists in this country using it on every single issue that comes up.

You first paragraph isn't even English. Trump is the guy who is telling people not to believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears, and to believe him instead.

As you lot get more and more desperate, you're becoming unhinged. Why do you so want 4 more years of incompetence and chaos?

Here's a tip, LizardBitch: Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't mean it's not English. Never discount the likelihood that your ignorance is the problem.

Once again you make assumptions which are completely false and run with them.

I understood your blather completely, regardless of the poor syntax and grammar, but it as very badly constructed and not proper English.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
I'm blown away every day by how angry and miserable and hateful these folks are, even WITH things going their way.

Imagine going through life like that.
 
Democrats are ordering police to stand down while cities burn, and people are murdered (even 1 year olds).

You think half of America is going to vote for that?

This is going to be the biggest landslide wipe-out in history!

Pretty sure what they think is that they're going to convince people to not-know what they know, by brainwashing them into believing that knowing what their eyes tell them makes them bad people.

Totalitarian dictatorships use this all the time, and you can see the leftists in this country using it on every single issue that comes up.

You first paragraph isn't even English. Trump is the guy who is telling people not to believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears, and to believe him instead.

As you lot get more and more desperate, you're becoming unhinged. Why do you so want 4 more years of incompetence and chaos?

Here's a tip, LizardBitch: Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't mean it's not English. Never discount the likelihood that your ignorance is the problem.

Once again you make assumptions which are completely false and run with them.

I understood your blather completely, regardless of the poor syntax and grammar, but it as very badly constructed and not proper English.

Once again, if you are blithering at me, you are making the crucial false assumption: that you have anything to say that is of interest about subject which are none of your business.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?

You're more ignorant and insane and evil by the day, so yeah.

As for what I'm going to do IF he loses, the answer is, "Thank God that I'm still not a driveling tool of Satan living in a nothing country like Canada the way LizardBitch is."
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
I'm blown away every day by how angry and miserable and hateful these folks are, even WITH things going their way.

Imagine going through life like that.

Cities are being ravaged by lawless bands of rabid vermin; our economy is being deliberately destroyed and taking people's jobs, businesses, and lives down with it; and every system and institution we have all depended on our entire lives is being systematically dismantled . . . and all of this is for a political coup.

I'm blown away by how people like you can be perfectly fine with that.

If you're not angry, you're either too pig-stupid to understand what's going on . . . or you're one of the evil goat-fuckers doing the destroying. Take your pick which one you want to identify as.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

We'll see. I can make the argument that the moderates on the Democratic party side are the exact reason the party is in the position it's in. As you said, not enough of a contrast. On top of that, the older baby boomers in the party just don't seem to be able to fight a ground war against Trump and his supporters on their terms. And I lay the entire fault for that at the feet of the baby boomers that just will not leave and allow some fresh blood out front. Yes, I'll be consistent that I want to see both Republican and Democrat baby boomer politicians taking a hike. I think you would be surprised what we could get done as a country. The basic problem is that most of our country's problems can't be solved with soundbites, memes, gifs, and one or two word slogans. And that is the hallmark of right wing in this country. Unfortunately, it's what the Republican party has become.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
I'm blown away every day by how angry and miserable and hateful these folks are, even WITH things going their way.

Imagine going through life like that.

Cities are being ravaged by lawless bands of rabid vermin; our economy is being deliberately destroyed and taking people's jobs, businesses, and lives down with it; and every system and institution we have all depended on our entire lives is being systematically dismantled . . . and all of this is for a political coup.

I'm blown away by how people like you can be perfectly fine with that.

If you're not angry, you're either too pig-stupid to understand what's going on . . . or you're one of the evil goat-fuckers doing the destroying. Take your pick which one you want to identify as.
I'll go with evil goat fucker. :laugh2:
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
I'm blown away every day by how angry and miserable and hateful these folks are, even WITH things going their way.

Imagine going through life like that.

Cities are being ravaged by lawless bands of rabid vermin; our economy is being deliberately destroyed and taking people's jobs, businesses, and lives down with it; and every system and institution we have all depended on our entire lives is being systematically dismantled . . . and all of this is for a political coup.

I'm blown away by how people like you can be perfectly fine with that.

If you're not angry, you're either too pig-stupid to understand what's going on . . . or you're one of the evil goat-fuckers doing the destroying. Take your pick which one you want to identify as.
I'm not surprised at all. Mac is a douchebag. He keeps saying rightwingers are ignorant, paranoid, stupid, brainwashed, small minded and a dozen other insulting characterizations. Then he blubbers that we don't treat him with the respect he feels he deserves.
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

We'll see. I can make the argument that the moderates on the Democratic party side are the exact reason the party is in the position it's in. As you said, not enough of a contrast. On top of that, the older baby boomers in the party just don't seem to be able to fight a ground war against Trump and his supporters on their terms. And I lay the entire fault for that at the feet of the baby boomers that just will not leave and allow some fresh blood out front. Yes, I'll be consistent that I want to see both Republican and Democrat baby boomer politicians taking a hike. I think you would be surprised what we could get done as a country. The basic problem is that most of our country's problems can't be solved with soundbites, memes, gifs, and one or two word slogans. And that is the hallmark of right wing in this country. Unfortunately, it's what the Republican party has become.
So you believe the Democrat party is not radical enough?
 
You mean at the same time Biden said he wouldn't send his kid to a bussed school because it would be a racial jungle? Or when Biden said if you don't vote for me, you're not really black? Or when he said Republicans want to put y'all back in chains? Or when Biden said you have to speak Indian to converse in a 7-11. Or when Clinton told Kennedy, 20 years ago, he (Obama) would have been serving us coffee? Or when Biden said poor kids are just as bright as white kids?

Biden has a 40 year record of fighting for civil rights.
The GOP has a 40 year record of fighting against them.

I do love how you like to change the subject. Did Republicans push those racist policies or not?
Blacks still killing blacks looks like Joe has been a 40 year failure
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.
It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

Sanders and Moore need to STFU unless they want people like you, Trump&Co., to continue to exploit their comments; the large part of the hate and fear doctrine used by Trump&Co.; Trump and his lap dogs and press secretaries use Big Lies and half-truths, rumors, innuendos and false assassinations of the character of all Democrats.

Calling AOC a train wreck is one more example of a Big Lie; the only train wreck today is Trump's Lies and efforts to spin his total failure to protect We the People from Covid; his effort to not panic the people is absurd.

Read FDR's first inauguration speech to the people, that is what real leaders do!


Sanders doesn't have to say anything at all....The DNC, and Biden by extension, have embraced his Marxist lunacy as their guiding principles.

He may now just go hang out at the third house that the DNC bought for him, in exchange for sitting down and shutting up like a good little party tool that he is.

Why don't you take you head out of your ass and STFU. You post nothing thoughtful or thought provoking; you must believe you are clever, you're not.

What you've done is to attack the DNC as a singular voice, which most everyone understands is stupid hyperbole.

No, I'd say most everyone is coming to understand that the Democrats are like the Borg, a mass of mindless drones with the hive queen speaking through them all at once.

And you have a right to say so, the facts do not support you.

Which "facts" are those? The facts I'm looking are every single leftist I encounter saying the exact same things on every single issue, usually in the exact same WORDS, always within 24 hours of those very words appearing in the media somewhere. And if I challenge the leftist in question to explain what those words mean, or to address how this or that point affects what they said, they just keep repeating it at me like a record with the needle stuck in a groove. Then, if the media has to announce a change to that particular talking point, 24 hours later all those same leftists are shouting THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS at me, and telling me how that's what they've been saying all along, even if it 100% contradicts what they actually said before.

If you have some facts that are supposed to show that leftists are independent free thinkers coming up with original ideas they can explain and defend, I'd like to know what those facts are.

And no, simply telling me that that's how things are does not qualify as a "fact".

First you need to define "leftists"!


leftist
[ˈleftəst]

NOUN
  1. a person with left-wing political views.
    "these values are shared by many leftists" ·
    [more]
ADJECTIVE
  1. having or relating to left-wing political views.
    "leftist radicals"
It's called a "dictionary". Get one. Do you also need me to define "is" for you? Or was that just Bill Clinton's personal illiteracy?


LOL, this is arguing in a circle ^^^; a logical fallacy.

The use of Left, Leftist and Radical Left are used by you and Trump and his fellow travelers as a pejorative. A demeaning use of the word "left" which you have been told to believe every Democrat holds a singular world view; that is absolutely not true.

"LOL" This is dodging on your part. "I don't want to respond to your points, so I'm going to deflect onto bitching about word choices!"

I don't give a fuck if you find the word I use to refer to you as "pejorative" or not. I won't be changing it, and if you want to pretend to storm off in a huff over it so that you can avoid having to respond to questions you can't answer, then feel free. I never stop craven pussies from showing themselves to be craven pussies.

You’re more triggered by the day. Hate and bile are deadly diseases. And your spewing vicious lies and invective.

What are you going to do when he loses?
I'm blown away every day by how angry and miserable and hateful these folks are, even WITH things going their way.

Imagine going through life like that.

Cities are being ravaged by lawless bands of rabid vermin; our economy is being deliberately destroyed and taking people's jobs, businesses, and lives down with it; and every system and institution we have all depended on our entire lives is being systematically dismantled . . . and all of this is for a political coup.

I'm blown away by how people like you can be perfectly fine with that.

If you're not angry, you're either too pig-stupid to understand what's going on . . . or you're one of the evil goat-fuckers doing the destroying. Take your pick which one you want to identify as.
I'll go with evil goat fucker. :laugh2:

Is an evil goat fucker anything like a dog faced pony solder?
 
This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

We'll see. I can make the argument that the moderates on the Democratic party side are the exact reason the party is in the position it's in. As you said, not enough of a contrast. On top of that, the older baby boomers in the party just don't seem to be able to fight a ground war against Trump and his supporters on their terms. And I lay the entire fault for that at the feet of the baby boomers that just will not leave and allow some fresh blood out front. Yes, I'll be consistent that I want to see both Republican and Democrat baby boomer politicians taking a hike. I think you would be surprised what we could get done as a country. The basic problem is that most of our country's problems can't be solved with soundbites, memes, gifs, and one or two word slogans. And that is the hallmark of right wing in this country. Unfortunately, it's what the Republican party has become.
Yeah, I keep a pretty close eye on the younger Dems, and I know they're pretty pissed right now. They saw Bernie get pushed out by the baby boomer Dems twice now, and even some of them are pissed at HIM for not fighting more against the Dem establishment. And I do really do get the feeling that, once the Bidens and Pelosis have taken a hike, the party is going to change.

One thing I also find interesting is how the GOP establishment lost control of the party and it belched out Trump, while the Dem establishment was able to hold off Bernie and his supporters. This is a profoundly transitional moment for both parties - Trump is an ugly, clownish one-off, and the Dem establishment is about to topple. I definitely get the feeling there is a "next" on the way.
 
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This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

We'll see. I can make the argument that the moderates on the Democratic party side are the exact reason the party is in the position it's in. As you said, not enough of a contrast. On top of that, the older baby boomers in the party just don't seem to be able to fight a ground war against Trump and his supporters on their terms. And I lay the entire fault for that at the feet of the baby boomers that just will not leave and allow some fresh blood out front. Yes, I'll be consistent that I want to see both Republican and Democrat baby boomer politicians taking a hike. I think you would be surprised what we could get done as a country. The basic problem is that most of our country's problems can't be solved with soundbites, memes, gifs, and one or two word slogans. And that is the hallmark of right wing in this country. Unfortunately, it's what the Republican party has become.
So you believe the Democrat party is not radical enough?

I believe the Democrat party is not strident enough in making their case to the American people that their ideas are best for the country.
Let's take the ACA for example. 15 months of hearings, negotiations, and votes. Passed largely along party lines. Republicans have spent a decade
tying to dismantle it, all without offering any plans of their own. But if you go and ask the average voter away from all the right wing spin, they'll tell you
that not only do they support it, but they want to see healthcare fixed. Republicans aren't going to do that. And Democrats don't make enough hay out of
this. Largely attributed to the baby boomers at the top of the party. They are largely outclassed when it comes to fighting an information war. The mediums
have passed them by. It's the exact reason why people like AOC and Ayanna Pressley get the attention they do. They understand how to fight the war.
 

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