How the parties have changed since 1980

[AzogtheDefiler]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

 

[lg325]

And no representation for the wage earner and self employed. Both Parties have factions trying to do good for the regular citizen but get brushed aside for the big contribution factions.

 

[candycorn]

Republicans used to be about the sensible center. The GOP of John McCain and the like represented it. And I voted for many of them. Now? You're 100% for criminals getting payouts from the government.

The GOP candidates see politics as improving their brand; nothing else. Reality TV stars who are long on hairspray and short on education. Its where ideas go to die. Democrats are trying to actually govern.

This quote from a fellow MAGA sums up the GOP:

I really hope that VANCE is even meaner than Trump, when he wins in 2028

Nothing about the American dream, healthcare, equality, or even Christianity....Just a hope for more pain.

 

[MarcATL]

You're completely off base OP, as usual, you're as wrong as two left feet.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You're completely off base OP, as usual, you're as wrong as two left feet.

So the entire post is incorrect or do I live so rent free in your head that you just want to be a contrarian

 

[DGS49]

The biggest shift is this: Prior to Y2K, Democrats and Republicans agreed that illegal immigration was a cancer in American society. Their rhetoric reflected this position. YouTube is filled with Clinton, Pelosi, Gore, etc., describing the ills of illegal immigration. Both parties agreed.

There was a period of a few years when the Democrats went dark on the issue, Obviously, they had collectively made a decision...these fukkers will eventually be voting Democrats.

It might not be this year or next year, but as long as they remain in the country, there will come a day when every one of those fukkers will become U.S. citizens, and reliable Democrat voters.

Today, we have masses of violent protesters, FIGHTING THE ENFORCEMENT OF LONGSTANDING IMMIGRATION LAWS. The Media go along with it. The reporting NEVER mentions whether the "detainees" are in the country illegally; it's always a sob story of some harmless wretch being detained for no reason, being mistreated while being detained.

If this ain't a "conspiracy," there is no such thing.

But it is a conspiracy. Happening right now. And only ONE PERSON is trying to fight it. Donald Fcuking Trump.

 

[pknopp]

Why is it impossible to be an independent voter?

 

[struth]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

The GoP has become more broader and a much bigger tent since the Dems have fully embraced fascism. People are fleeing the demafasict party

 

[pknopp]

The GoP has become more broader and a much bigger tent since the Dems have fully embraced fascism. People are fleeing the demafasict party

Just ask Massey.

 

[alang1216]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

As I see it, the GOP has moved so far to the Right it only makes the Dems look far left. Of course the are some far Left voices in the Dems but I think overall the party only leans Left.

 

[Lockback]

I did not really start following politics until 2015. Honestly didn’t care all that much beforehand. From what I have read/watched. The Democratic Party has moved very far left.

Clinton was anti gay marriage. Obama was the deporter in chief. Democrats have seemingly embraced the wealthy while also pining for UH, vilifying wealthy persons and large corporations and seemingly for open borders and defunding the police. Sudden support of DEI and embracing the rainbow flag while vilifying the US flag. Pro Alphabet Mafia. Party surprisingly doesn’t want the straight white male vote.

Conversely the GOP has moved more toward populism. Likely as a response to the Democrats moving so far left. Highly secure borders, tougher H1B1 standards, pro policing, certainly pro 2A and pro life, pro capitalism, pro law and order (back the blue).

Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle (Democrats notably farther) that being a true independent voter is impossible.

Did I get this right? Fully? Partially?

I've been studying politics for over 50 years and I think your assessment is absolutely excellent. I may add some more as time goes by but you did a great job of summing things up pretty well.

 

[Lockback]

As I see it, the GOP has moved so far to the Right it only makes the Dems look far left. Of course the are some far Left voices in the Dems but I think overall the party only leans Left.

Wrong.
The Democrats have moved FAR LEFT. They now openly embrace Marxism and Communism. And, of course, their gender positions are so off the screen it's hard to believe. On every subject: abortion, gun control, drugs, homelessness, education ... everything they have veered FAR Left.
How can you be so blind?

 

[Bad Bob]

...Both parties overspend, albeit for different reasons. Both parties have seemingly embraced vilifying Jews. GOP at least also vilifies Islam while the Democratic Party kowtows to it.

Both trying to win the podcast wars. Tough to tell who is winning. I’d give the GOP a slight edge. Democrats still control most of the main stream/old school media and Hollywood.

Overall I believe both parties have shifted so far from the middle ...

Agreed with these points albeit not the RW bias. I'm more centered.

 

[rightwinger]

The GoP has become more broader and a much bigger tent since the Dems have fully embraced fascism. People are fleeing the demafasict party

GOP Tent is TRUMP

 

[struth]

Just ask Massey.

Massie? Hes still in the party. Losing an election doesn’t mean you are out of the party

 

[struth]

GOP Tent is TRUMP

Yes he’s helped expand it

 

[Lockback]

GOP Tent is TRUMP

Yep.
And he's won TWICE with that tent. Because he doesn't appeal to the old country club stock broker type Republicans. His appeal to blacks, Hispanics, blue collar workers and others has radically changed the GOP makeup.

 

[drudge X]

The biggest shift is this: Prior to Y2K, Democrats and Republicans agreed that illegal immigration was a cancer in American society. Their rhetoric reflected this position. YouTube is filled with Clinton, Pelosi, Gore, etc., describing the ills of illegal immigration. Both parties agreed.

There was a period of a few years when the Democrats went dark on the issue, Obviously, they had collectively made a decision...these fukkers will eventually be voting Democrats.

It might not be this year or next year, but as long as they remain in the country, there will come a day when every one of those fukkers will become U.S. citizens, and reliable Democrat voters.

Today, we have masses of violent protesters, FIGHTING THE ENFORCEMENT OF LONGSTANDING IMMIGRATION LAWS. The Media go along with it. The reporting NEVER mentions whether the "detainees" are in the country illegally; it's always a sob story of some harmless wretch being detained for no reason, being mistreated while being detained.

If this ain't a "conspiracy," there is no such thing.

But it is a conspiracy. Happening right now. And only ONE PERSON is trying to fight it. Donald Fcuking Trump.

Don’t forget. Al Gore also called for the invasion of Iraq.

 

[Darkwind]

Wrong.
The Democrats have moved FAR LEFT. They now openly embrace Marxism and Communism. And, of course, their gender positions are so off the screen it's hard to believe. On every subject: abortion, gun control, drugs, homelessness, education ... everything they have veered FAR Left.
How can you be so blind?

It is a symptom of their disease.

When Mao was killing all those millions, I'm sure he thought he was the center of the road and that those who fought for the old guard were just so extreme they needed extermination.

That is how far alang1216 has gone.

The left has become an actual danger to anyone who does not bend the knee.

 

[Lockback]

It is a symptom of their disease.

When Mao was killing all those millions, I'm sure he thought he was the center of the road and that those who fought for the old guard were just so extreme they needed extermination.

That is how far alang1216 has gone.

The left has become an actual danger to anyone who does not bend the knee.

Very dangerous indeed.