48%: The Democratic Party needs to face an ugly reality

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray . From what I'm seeing and hearing that may be happening now. Here in Florida politics there's 'a saying .When both parties have no one else to attack, they will turn inward and eat there own. That seems to be starting to happen..

It has been happening. On the right there is a tear between the Establishment and the Constitutionalists. On the left it's progressive vs Socialists.

This is why Donald Trump is our President today. We on the right got sick of the RNC telling us they'd carry out our demands, and once in power, give us excuses instead. So we elected Donald Trump who eventually became our President. He was the only candidate that talked about closing down our border. The rest of them talked shit like immigration reform, path to citizenship. Did we ask for immigration reform? Hell now. We asked to stop illegals from getting into this country and throw the ones out that are already here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Democrats started the wildfires too.
I guess it's good to have a boogeyman.

I don't recall anybody saying that. I do recall them blaming the Republicans for it because Donald Trump made the environment worse. They blamed us for tornadoes, hurricanes, earth quakes, you name it.

 

[dblack]

Democrats started the wildfires too.
I guess it's good to have a boogeyman.

I don't recall anybody saying that. I do recall them blaming the Republicans for it because Donald Trump made the environment worse. They blamed us for tornadoes, hurricanes, earth quakes, you name it.

Of course. What's the point of being a partisan if you're not blaming every. single. problem. on "the enemy"?

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

A win is a win. But yeah...both parties are losing ground and hopefully a sensible centrist 3rd party will emerge.

We have a binary system.

We haven't always had one...

No, but then we gravitated toward one. It's almost like people prefer it, or something.

Wow, a post without profanity. Shocking.

Its human nature that breaks down choices to two major categories/options.

What was really shocking is that you managed to create a post that didn't necessitate profanity.

You are correct about human nature. Multiple choice tends to present more occasions for complication and frustration, and it's our nature to avoid such things. We're also not necessarily wrong in doing so. There are many industrialized nations in the world with multiple, one-issue political parties in them. And quite often, the consensus government that system requires them to form is weaker and more ineffectual.

The bottom line is that no one and nothing is stopping the American people from having more than two major parties, other than their own desire not to support them.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Meanwhile, back in reality, the Democrats are beating Trump and his cult like a gong.

Why?

The Democrats offer concrete policies across the board, while the Trump cult offers only fear and hate.

The Democrats act like patriots and decent human beings, while the Trump cult acts like Nazi sociopaths. Q-anon, the current Republican philosophy, is literally a Nazi conspiracy theory repackaged.

We can't save the Republican party. The treason runs too deep there. They simply hate everyone outside of their fascist cult, because the hating gives them a thrill. Pity. The USA needs two parties. Hopefully, a sane conservative party will rise out of the wreckage of the GOP.

Is that why:

1. We kept the senate
2. We upped our number in the house (and it seems to be growing even still).
3. We flipped two statehouses
4. We flipped a couple of legislatures
5. We strengthened several other legislatures.

Yeah....I fee real gonged.....