20 children hospitalized each day with gun injuries

[westwall]

20 children hospitalized each day. Those guns make us so safe.
Twenty U.S. Kids Hospitalized Each Day for Gun Injuries: Study ? WebMD

That's funny. The only way you can come up with that number is by including people all the way up to 26 years old. So, are 26 year olds now considered children?

When you have to lie this bad to make a point you're losing.

Just wanted you to know that.

 

[zeke]

And you know the gun nutters argument is weak and shaky when all they can do is bring up cars and shopping carts and any fucking thing else they can come up with.

Anything to deflect from the problem. Anything. As long as they are not forced to recognize their complicity in the killing of kids.

Its the simple fact that those things are much more likely to kill you than a firearm.

and the only complicity here is in the failed progressive policies that lead to the inncer city crime that causes these "kids" to be shot.

No the simple fact is that you want to deflect as much as possible. The topic was kids and guns. Not kids and cars or kids in shopping carts.

Start a thread for those topics. Maybe the idiot Repubs in Congress can ban shopping carts.
They aren't protected in the COTUS are they?

 

[zeke]

20 children hospitalized each day. Those guns make us so safe.
Twenty U.S. Kids Hospitalized Each Day for Gun Injuries: Study ? WebMD

That's funny. The only way you can come up with that number is by including people all the way up to 26 years old. So, are 26 year olds now considered children?

When you have to lie this bad to make a point you're losing.

Just wanted you to know that.

Let Google be your friend dude. IF you actually want to become educated. If not, carry on.

 

[rightwinger]

When too many children were injured in car crashes, we required child safety seats

When did this happen? Year of the study? Conclusions? Recommendations?

"Pulled out of your ass" isn't a valid source.

If stupid was criteria for a federal grant, you'd be a fucking millionaire.

You need to get out more

State Child Passenger Safety Laws

 

[Warrior102]

When too many children were injured in car crashes, we required child safety seats

When did this happen? Year of the study? Conclusions? Recommendations?

"Pulled out of your ass" isn't a valid source.

If stupid was criteria for a federal grant, you'd be a fucking millionaire.

You need to get out more

State Child Passenger Safety Laws

You're answering the question by posting the laws ?

Moron much?

 

[Warrior102]

So, are 26 year olds now considered children?

Yes, under the Obama regime, this is true. Look at Zeke and Rightnutter. Still living/jerking off in Mom's basement.

 

[martybegan]

And you know the gun nutters argument is weak and shaky when all they can do is bring up cars and shopping carts and any fucking thing else they can come up with.

Anything to deflect from the problem. Anything. As long as they are not forced to recognize their complicity in the killing of kids.

Its the simple fact that those things are much more likely to kill you than a firearm.

and the only complicity here is in the failed progressive policies that lead to the inncer city crime that causes these "kids" to be shot.

No the simple fact is that you want to deflect as much as possible. The topic was kids and guns. Not kids and cars or kids in shopping carts.

Start a thread for those topics. Maybe the idiot Repubs in Congress can ban shopping carts.
They aren't protected in the COTUS are they?

The topic ignores that you are far more likely, as a "kid" to die from something OTHER than firearms, yet firearms get all the attention from gun grabbing progressive asshats such as yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

When did this happen? Year of the study? Conclusions? Recommendations?

"Pulled out of your ass" isn't a valid source.

If stupid was criteria for a federal grant, you'd be a fucking millionaire.

You need to get out more

State Child Passenger Safety Laws

You're answering the question by posting the laws ?

Moron much?

I am really at a loss here

How big a retard do you expect me to treat you as? You fight over whether we have childsafety laws and why?

Do you really expect me to explain it to you?

 

[Warrior102]

This thread confirms Libberhoids have their mouths firmly planted on Piers Morgan's balls and ass.

 

[kaz]

The topic is KIDS killed or injured by guns. Particularly kids under 14. You think that those kids are defending themselves or their parents home when they get shot? Prove your stupidity and say that is what you think.

So we're by your 14 year old net and the article talking about 3 kids a day now in a nation of 300+ million people, and that's from all causes, not just accidents.

 

[Warrior102]

Do you really expect me to explain it to you?

Hell no, I don't expect you to explain it to me. You're too fucking dumb. I asked you how these laws came about - and you post the laws.

Answer the question or shut the fuck up, moron. Really. You're quite the serious dumb fuck.

 

[Howey]

20 children hospitalized each day. Those guns make us so safe.
Twenty U.S. Kids Hospitalized Each Day for Gun Injuries: Study ? WebMD

Which begs the question...

What's going to happen to the so-called responsible gun owners who owned the weapons?

Didn't bother to read the link did ya? The vast majority of those "children" were 15-20 year old thugs who are shooting each other, I don't think they have ever been considered responsible gun owners.

Of course I read the link. It didn't say anything about where the guns came from, did it?

I also found this statement of the pediatrician's:

“All are unnecessary hospitalizations because preventing gun violence is something that can actually be done.”

Here's more from him:

The high number of accidental injuries, especially in the youngest children, underscores the need for parents to keep guns locked in a safe place that is separate from where ammunition is stowed and secured, Leventhal said.

One change that could make a big difference, Webster said, is to make it illegal for anyone under 21 to own a handgun. “In order to drink beer legally you have to be 21,” he said. “While you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun from a dealer, if you’re an 18-year-old you can go to a private seller and legally purchase a handgun in 45 out of 50 states.”

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds, we think it’s too dangerous to drink beer, but in 45 states they can legally possess as many handguns as they like.

“We have weak laws, and for that we pay a dear cost.”

 

[Warrior102]

Meanwhile --- MILLIONS of babies/unborn are aborted daily --- to a Libberhoid... this is acceptable.

 

[peach174]

We have licensing for cars, require insurance, hold car owners responsible for damages, require manufacturers to build a safer product

You support the same for guns?

Ready.....ready?.....here it comes

Well, of course it only makes sense that we license our cars, including insurance, and hold owners responsible for damages. Cars are far more dangerous than guns as we've seen with 700 children injured daily through car crashes vs 20 for gun related injuries. Also the fact that driving is not a right, the state can issue whatever requirements it wants.

When too many children were injured in car crashes, we required child safety seats

What have we done for children injured by guns?

How well did that safety seat law work out?
There are 700 children injured or killed every day in car accidents.

20 children each day from guns.
Most of those injuries are from gangs.
We need to work on getting rid of gangs not guns.

 

[zeke]

More than Forty Years of Progress for
Child Passenger Protection
A Chronicle of Child Passenger Safety Advances in the USA, 1965-2009

Compiled by Deborah D. Stewart, Editor, Safe Ride News
[email protected]
(updated 2/09)

Note: some dates are approximate and unverified.

1965: Physicians for Automotive Safety formed, pickets NY Auto Show, protests lack of
occupant protection.

1971: Physicians for Automotive Safety publishes first pamphlet on child passenger protection,
"Don't Risk Your Child's Life" (updated frequently to present).

1968: First child restraints designed for crash protection developed by Ford (Tot-Guard) and
General Motors (Love Seat for toddlers). Followed soon thereafter by the GM Infant
Love Seat (first rear-facing only restraint) and the Bobby Mac convertible seat (used
both rear-facing and forward facing).

1971: Action for Child Transportation Safety founded for parent-citizen advocates to promote
child passenger safety (CPS) education and stricter standards for children's car seats
(also called "safety seats" or, most correctly, "child restraint systems" or CRS). (Closed
1982)

1971: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) adopts first federal standard
for child seating systems, FMVSS 213; requirements do not include dynamic (crash)
tests, but did require use of a safety belt to hold the car seat into the vehicle, and a
harness to hold the child in the car seat. Did not cover rear-facing infant restraints or car
beds.

1972: Consumer Reports publishes article showing that most car seats that passed FMVSS 213
could not withstand crash tests.

1970s: Several established child safety seat manufacturers develop products that passed an
informally agreed upon crash-test procedure at 30 mph. Product mix on the market
makes shopping for a protective child restraint confusing. Very few parents actually use
restraints for their children.

1977: First standard for school buses becomes effective; includes body strength, roll-over
protection, seat spacing, padded flexible seatbacks, and higher backs (passenger
"compartmentalization"), but not seat belts.

1978: Physicians for Automotive Safety produces first parent education film about child
passenger safety, "Don't Risk Your Child's Life". (Updated six times to 2004.)
Thirty Years of Progress for Child Passenger Protection 2
1978: First child passenger safety law passed in Tennessee, r


Hey warrior. can you read and comprehend what you don't want to believe?

 

[Warrior102]

How well did that safety seat law work out?
There are 700 children injured or killed every day in car accidents.

He's really a fucking dope, isn't he?

 

[zeke]

More than Forty Years of Progress for
Child Passenger Protection
A Chronicle of Child Passenger Safety Advances in the USA, 1965-2009

Compiled by Deborah D. Stewart, Editor, Safe Ride News
[email protected]
(updated 2/09)

Note: some dates are approximate and unverified.

1965: Physicians for Automotive Safety formed, pickets NY Auto Show, protests lack of
occupant protection.

1971: Physicians for Automotive Safety publishes first pamphlet on child passenger protection,
"Don't Risk Your Child's Life" (updated frequently to present).

1968: First child restraints designed for crash protection developed by Ford (Tot-Guard) and
General Motors (Love Seat for toddlers). Followed soon thereafter by the GM Infant
Love Seat (first rear-facing only restraint) and the Bobby Mac convertible seat (used
both rear-facing and forward facing).

1971: Action for Child Transportation Safety founded for parent-citizen advocates to promote
child passenger safety (CPS) education and stricter standards for children's car seats
(also called "safety seats" or, most correctly, "child restraint systems" or CRS). (Closed
1982)

1971: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) adopts first federal standard
for child seating systems, FMVSS 213; requirements do not include dynamic (crash)
tests, but did require use of a safety belt to hold the car seat into the vehicle, and a
harness to hold the child in the car seat. Did not cover rear-facing infant restraints or car
beds.

1972: Consumer Reports publishes article showing that most car seats that passed FMVSS 213
could not withstand crash tests.

1970s: Several established child safety seat manufacturers develop products that passed an
informally agreed upon crash-test procedure at 30 mph. Product mix on the market
makes shopping for a protective child restraint confusing. Very few parents actually use
restraints for their children.

1977: First standard for school buses becomes effective; includes body strength, roll-over
protection, seat spacing, padded flexible seatbacks, and higher backs (passenger
"compartmentalization"), but not seat belts.

1978: Physicians for Automotive Safety produces first parent education film about child
passenger safety, "Don't Risk Your Child's Life". (Updated six times to 2004.)
Thirty Years of Progress for Child Passenger Protection 2
1978: First child passenger safety law passed in Tennessee, r


Hey warrior. can you read and comprehend what you don't want to believe?

 

[martybegan]

Which begs the question...

What's going to happen to the so-called responsible gun owners who owned the weapons?

Didn't bother to read the link did ya? The vast majority of those "children" were 15-20 year old thugs who are shooting each other, I don't think they have ever been considered responsible gun owners.

Of course I read the link. It didn't say anything about where the guns came from, did it?

I also found this statement of the pediatrician's:

“All are unnecessary hospitalizations because preventing gun violence is something that can actually be done.”

Here's more from him:

The high number of accidental injuries, especially in the youngest children, underscores the need for parents to keep guns locked in a safe place that is separate from where ammunition is stowed and secured, Leventhal said.

One change that could make a big difference, Webster said, is to make it illegal for anyone under 21 to own a handgun. “In order to drink beer legally you have to be 21,” he said. “While you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun from a dealer, if you’re an 18-year-old you can go to a private seller and legally purchase a handgun in 45 out of 50 states.”

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds, we think it’s too dangerous to drink beer, but in 45 states they can legally possess as many handguns as they like.

“We have weak laws, and for that we pay a dear cost.”

The 18-20 year olds that are doing the shooting have no desire to get the gun leagally, or own in legally. Most of them have no disrespect for the law anyway.

And the 21 year old drinking age is bullshit, make majority 21 for everything, or 18 for everything.

 

[martybegan]

More than Forty Years of Progress for
Child Passenger Protection
A Chronicle of Child Passenger Safety Advances in the USA, 1965-2009

Compiled by Deborah D. Stewart, Editor, Safe Ride News
[email protected]
(updated 2/09)

Note: some dates are approximate and unverified.

1965: Physicians for Automotive Safety formed, pickets NY Auto Show, protests lack of
occupant protection.

1971: Physicians for Automotive Safety publishes first pamphlet on child passenger protection,
"Don't Risk Your Child's Life" (updated frequently to present).

1968: First child restraints designed for crash protection developed by Ford (Tot-Guard) and
General Motors (Love Seat for toddlers). Followed soon thereafter by the GM Infant
Love Seat (first rear-facing only restraint) and the Bobby Mac convertible seat (used
both rear-facing and forward facing).

1971: Action for Child Transportation Safety founded for parent-citizen advocates to promote
child passenger safety (CPS) education and stricter standards for children's car seats
(also called "safety seats" or, most correctly, "child restraint systems" or CRS). (Closed
1982)

1971: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) adopts first federal standard
for child seating systems, FMVSS 213; requirements do not include dynamic (crash)
tests, but did require use of a safety belt to hold the car seat into the vehicle, and a
harness to hold the child in the car seat. Did not cover rear-facing infant restraints or car
beds.

1972: Consumer Reports publishes article showing that most car seats that passed FMVSS 213
could not withstand crash tests.

1970s: Several established child safety seat manufacturers develop products that passed an
informally agreed upon crash-test procedure at 30 mph. Product mix on the market
makes shopping for a protective child restraint confusing. Very few parents actually use
restraints for their children.

1977: First standard for school buses becomes effective; includes body strength, roll-over
protection, seat spacing, padded flexible seatbacks, and higher backs (passenger
"compartmentalization"), but not seat belts.

1978: Physicians for Automotive Safety produces first parent education film about child
passenger safety, "Don't Risk Your Child's Life". (Updated six times to 2004.)
Thirty Years of Progress for Child Passenger Protection 2
1978: First child passenger safety law passed in Tennessee, r


Hey warrior. can you read and comprehend what you don't want to believe?

and none of those impact my consitutional rights. Banning firearms would.

 

[Warrior102]

Hey warrior. can you read and comprehend what you don't want to believe?

“Motor vehicle crashes
are the leading cause of
death for children from 2
to 14 years old.”

Can you read, shitstain?

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809762.pdf