After 2-year-old girl shoots self, man becomes first person charged under Michigan’s gun storage law

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How about it fellas, are your guns stored properly?

Of course.

And the father has only himself to blame; he’s entitled to no sympathy.

Gun ownership is a responsibility; failure to meet those responsibilities has consequences.

 

[Failzero]

1. Ad homs mean nothing other than you can't stop with facts.

2. You don't prove anything about other family members.

3. And an asshole did not secure the gun with which a two year old shot herself.

4. You need to think before you write.

Shooters need to think their Parents might wind up living in a 2011 Ram Truck with a Camper Shell after the Lawsuits From victims of their upcoming Rampage

 

[Failzero]

Of course.

And the father has only himself to blame; he’s entitled to no sympathy.

Gun ownership is a responsibility; failure to meet those responsibilities has consequences.

And allowing your shooter Minor or Young adult child to live under your roof with an Arsenal has consequences too

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And allowing your shooter Minor or Young adult child to live under your roof with an Arsenal has consequences too

That's so, so the adult should take the best precautions available, which in the case under discussion, he obviously did not.

 

[Rawley]

His kid got his revolver and shot herself one day after the law went into effect.


I hope she recovers and he goes to jail for a long time.

Yup

How about it fellas, are your guns stored properly?

Yup

 

[Failzero]

Yup

Yup

The Nutjob Shooters were a known problem yet parents ( Bought then Guns ) ( Allowed them to maintain Arsenal’s in the Household ) ( Keep the Guns after run ins with Law Enforcement and multiple 51/50s ...

 

[Crepitus]

some of those things kill more children than guns,,

I still can't tell.

 

[progressive hunter]

I still can't tell.

no surprised,,
after all you are a dumb mother fucker

 

[Crepitus]

Too funny. What makes you think anyone owes you an answer? FTR, only a fool would store their weapon in one place and ammo in another. All this law is intended to do is to create a new way to criminalize gun ownership. I'm glad I live in a state that finds such a law ridiculous.
FTR, I have no problem with prosecuting a person who leaves a firearm in a place where it could be reasonably expected to be found by a child, and then that child is injured or killed.

So that's another "no" then.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Firearms have indeed been a significant cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Let’s delve into the details:

1. Age Range Consideration:
   • When examining the age group from 1 to 19 years old, gun-related incidents were indeed the leading cause of death in recent years 1.
   • However, it’s essential to note that this age range excludes infants under one year old, who face unique risks related to age-specific causes of death.
   • Additionally, capping the age range at 17 years old (instead of 18 or 19) alters the result, as children aged 17 and under have a greater risk of dying from vehicle-related injuries 1.
2. Data from 2020:
   • In 2020, gun-related violence claimed the lives of 4,357 children and teens (ages 1-19 years old) in the U.S.
   • By comparison, motor-vehicle deaths accounted for 4,112 deaths in the same age range 1.
3. Caveats:
   • The conclusion that firearms are the leading cause of death depends on the specific age range considered.
   • Adjusting parameters (such as including or excluding certain age groups) can alter the outcome 1.

In summary, while guns have been a significant factor in child and adolescent mortality, the context and age range matter when assessing their impact. It’s crucial to continue monitoring data and implementing measures to protect young lives.

For more information, you can refer to the detailed analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation based on 2020 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 1.

 

[Crepitus]

Yup

Yup

Glad to hear it.

 

[2aguy]

Firearms have indeed been a significant cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Let’s delve into the details:

1. Age Range Consideration:
   • When examining the age group from 1 to 19 years old, gun-related incidents were indeed the leading cause of death in recent years 1.
   • However, it’s essential to note that this age range excludes infants under one year old, who face unique risks related to age-specific causes of death.
   • Additionally, capping the age range at 17 years old (instead of 18 or 19) alters the result, as children aged 17 and under have a greater risk of dying from vehicle-related injuries 1.
2. Data from 2020:
   • In 2020, gun-related violence claimed the lives of 4,357 children and teens (ages 1-19 years old) in the U.S.
   • By comparison, motor-vehicle deaths accounted for 4,112 deaths in the same age range 1.
3. Caveats:
   • The conclusion that firearms are the leading cause of death depends on the specific age range considered.
   • Adjusting parameters (such as including or excluding certain age groups) can alter the outcome 1.

In summary, while guns have been a significant factor in child and adolescent mortality, the context and age range matter when assessing their impact. It’s crucial to continue monitoring data and implementing measures to protect young lives.

For more information, you can refer to the detailed analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation based on 2020 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 1.

Hey...dumb shit....

15.26.17.18.19 year old gang members are not "Children," in any sense of the word.......but you have to use these violent criminals because normal children are not dying because of guns....

Refuting the Left's Favorite Lie: No, Guns Don't Kill More Children Than Cars - The Truth About Guns



As this CNN article discussed “children and teens,” consider the data on children – ages 0-12. For this cohort, firearm-related injuries are not the leading causes of death and are not higher than motor vehicle deaths. The number of motor vehicle deaths in this age group is more than double that of firearms-related deaths. The number of motor vehicle deaths in the 0-14 age group is more than 50-percent higher than firearm-related deaths. Moreover, when examining the cohort ages 0-17, motor vehicle deaths are still higher than firearm-related deaths.

This shifts when examining the cohort ages 15 to 19. Over 80-percent of the firearm-related deaths that occur in the 0-19 age group happen among the juveniles and young adults ages 15-19. This disparity shouldn’t be surprising.

The 15 to 19 cohort is far more often engaged in the type of street crime that can give rise to firearm-related violence and that many jurisdictions have decided to address in a more lenient manner in recent years. The conflation of this age group with young children is even more absurd when one considers that in the vast majority of jurisdictions those 15 and older can be prosecuted as adults.

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73.6 million children in 2020 in the United States

Unintentional gun deaths by gun ages <1 to 14..........from the Centers for Disease Control...

2020

93


Intentional gun murder ages <1-14.....

394

Intentional gun murder ages 15-19.....
(keeping in mind these are majority criminals, involved in gangs, drugs and other crime.....and when do you consider an 17,18, 19 year old a child?)


2,417

Unintentional motor vehicle deaths of children 2020.......

ages ....... <1-14

1,315

ages......15-19

2,638



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[sparky]

How about it fellas, are your guns stored properly?

Yes

and i'll add, there is nothing on God's green earth as moving as a hurt child

~S~

 

[The Duke]

Cool post dude, meaningless but cool.

Are your guns stored properly?

Da Fuq are you, The Spanish Inquisition, bitch?

Yeah, right in your ass!

 

[Crepitus]

Da Fuq are you, The Spanish Inquisition, bitch?

Yeah, right in your ass!

ANd there's Marion, fantasizing about my ass again.

 

[Failzero]

ANd there's Marion, fantasizing about my ass again.

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At least he if not ask if yer Cut

 

[The Duke]

I find it hard to believe a 2 year old pulled the trigger on a revolver.

Default revolver trigger is 13-lb pull. I just don't see a 2 year old doing that with 1 finger.

 

[Crepitus]

At least he if not ask if yer Cut

And he done said the "C" word!!

 

[LibertyKid]

Yeah….bullshit…..,complete bullshit….

the guy is a convicted felon who can’t legally buy, own or carry a gun…he somehow shot his daughter with the gun and is trying to say she did it……a two year old couldn’t manage pulling the trigger on a revolver…revolvers have harder pull on the trigger too..

A not guilty plea was entered Monday on behalf of Tolbert, who also faces one count each of felon in possession of a firearm, felon in possession of ammunition, lying to a peace officer in a violent crime investigation and four counts of felony firearm, Potbury said.
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He said Tolbert is barred from possessing firearms and ammunition because he has multiple firearms-related felony convictions and drug-related convictions.

If this guy had been in prison for any of his various felonies the two year old would be safe…

The article's headline is pure propaganda. 9 felony charges, one being the new storage law. If you read the article and don't realize the propaganda by focusing only ONE charge, maybe explore reading comprehension is something someone should do.

 

[LibertyKid]

A two year old shot herself because an adult screwed up.

A very very irresponsible adult screwed up that has a history or making poor life choices. The next article provides more details on the additional charges. The "storage law" is just a nice add on for the media to latch on to while most reports will gloss over many of the other charges.

Dad first to be charged under new Michigan gun law after 2-year-old daughter shoots herself in the face

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