10/2020: Solar is now ‘Cheapest Electricity in History’, confirms IEA

[westwall]

It won't be insignificant in a few years. I cannot speak for anyone else but here in the Midwest in Iowa and Nebraska they are now able to close down old dirty coal-burning electric plants because of all the new solar fields and wind- generating turbines. That's progress.

No they aren't. The coal plants are being converted to natural gas. The fossil fuel powered plants MUST be retained to maintain the base load or the grid fails.

Green energy systems are not capable of that, so there is NO reduction in fossil fuel powered electricity creation.

None.

 

[Stann]

It will always be insignificant.

In the last two decades, it has increased from .02% to around 5%. Care to do the math to see how long it is going to take to reach even 25% or 50%?

And add into that the older systems are already failing due to age so need to be replaced.

See, this is the difference. I am making a claim based on actual facts, you are basing your claim entirely based on what you believe with no real facts.

Currently 21-25% of all electricity is produced by renewables , 9-12 % of the total energy needs. Which also represents 90% of new generating capacity. And we're on schedule to get 50% of all energy needs from renewables somewhere between 2030 and 2050. Those are the real facts.Goodbye nay sayer.

 

[EMH]

Wow, can I cite every time a new high temperature is set as same evidence of AGW!!!

Your side does, which just makes it that more pathetic and desperate.

 

[EMH]

The earth is warming at an extraordinary rate due to mankind's activities on the planet.

You have NO EVIDENCE of that at all. The only real "warming" in the data is from Urban Heat Island Effect. Other than that, Earth climate data still reads PRECISELY

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING IN THE OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE
NO RISE in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE

 

[EMH]

Once fusion goes online all wind and solar will become utterly obsolete. It will happen.

LOL!!!

you just need a mass the size of a star to get it going... minor problem...

 

[Stann]

Your side does, which just makes it that more pathetic and desperate.

That would be a constant barrage of statistics. 3,000 a day were in locations all over the world last year. And it's increasing . But keep believing there's no climate change.

 

[Stann]

LOL!!!


Since you are such the expert at climate change, surely you can answer basic climate questions for us...

Thread 'Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?'

Feb 12, 2024

Apparently not.

Not on Faux

Not on RAV or OANN


What questions will the media never ask?


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



The Co2 Fraud is bilking America out of $200 billion per...

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You took my words out of context. Reported you. Good luck !

 

[justoffal]

LOL!!!

you just need a mass the size of a star to get it going... minor problem...

Focused lasers can imitate gravitational stress on a micro scale. Mass isn't the problem containment has always been the problem.

 

[Mushroom]

Currently 21-25% of all electricity is produced by renewables

And as I have shown, only 11% of that is solar. Hydro accounts for over twice as much.

So, are you trying to argue solar or renewable? Because this is a major attempt at moving the goalposts here.

How about you simply pick one and stick with it? You can't simply move back and forth, that is a guaranteed failure.

I am actually a huge supporter of renewable energy. I simply do not see the point of highly expensive solar energy other than as a gap energy source.

 

[sparky]

The Cheapest source of Fossil Fuel generation is now Double the Cost of Utility-Scale Solar​

show us the math then...~S~

 

[EMH]

You took my words out of context. Reported you. Good luck !

Nice try.

You cannot answer basic climate questions.

You are a left wing liar science invalid parrot of treasonous lies...

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[EMH]

Focused lasers can imitate gravitational stress on a micro scale. Mass isn't the problem containment has always been the problem.

bullshit.

You need the gravitational force of a star to cause continuous useful fusion. We've been wasting billions on lasers etc. and we have nothing but lies to show for it.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

If the planet has been "warming" for the past 150 years, how is this still happening all the time?

Frigid cold breaks decades-old records in Portland, Augusta

Temperatures dropped to near zero — with wind chills in the negatives — Thursday night into Friday morning as the chilly air set in behind an arctic cold front.

www.pressherald.com

Because the ICE up in the Arctic must reach over 32 degress temperature to melt, then all that melting cold air comes down into America at below zero temperature causing water to free. I know , that is how the left thinks, sorta like men with tits a balls are women.

 

[Mushroom]

No they aren't. The coal plants are being converted to natural gas. The fossil fuel powered plants MUST be retained to maintain the base load or the grid fails.

I will add a slight change to that.

In many areas, there actually are no kinds of fuel powered generation. And they are powered entirely by renewable energy.

But those areas are now powered by either solar or wind, but by hydro.

Most of the NW USA is powered primarily by hydroelectricity. It is abundant and cheap, and is also the backbone of a lot of local and regional power grids. Then you have the fossil fuels which have popped up as demand has grown, and hydro was not enough anymore.

A good example of this is Idaho, where some 95% of their power is generated by hydro. And there are a grand total of 8 steam turbine generators fueled by "fossil fuels".

Of those 8, 5 of them have been built in the last 25 years. Because the increase in population and power demand had been stressing the power supply that they no longer had a choice.

Oh, and the 3 that were there before? In more remote areas where the hydro available in the region was not enough in extreme weather so they added local ones.

Oh, and there is a single remaining coal plant that is in the process of converting to natural gas. It's actually a sugar plant, built just after WWII. Where the steam plant is actually used as part of the process to boil down and refine sugar beets to make sugar, and the power generated also powers the processing plant itself. And any excess power generated is sold to the grid.

But for some reason, even though "Greenies" love to accept the power that hydro provides as being "renewable", they actually want to see it destroyed in most cases and tell people it should not be used.