10/2020: Solar is now ‘Cheapest Electricity in History’, confirms IEA

[abu afak]

It shows that the present climate is 2C cooler than previous interglacial periods with 26 ft shallower seas and 120 ppm more CO2.

LOL. You STILL Can't write more than One sentence/line!
Severe autism and always keep it short to hide your assailable wrong thinking.

That's an Idiotic and irrelevant Take you've Trolled many times before.
It matters whether those numbers are on the way up (Low and catching up) OR on the way down. (high and fading).
We are on the way UP/catching to our CO2 concentration.

Further, you posted Hansen and Sato from a 2012 Study (Your usual Obsolete graph trick
which is often even much Older/irrelevant)

Global Warming Acceleration! – Hansen & Sato​

December 30, 2020

2020 will be the Hottest year ever recorded AND the rate of global warming accelerated. On December 14, 2020 Dr. James Hansen, former NASA Goddard Space Institute Director, released a new post called “Global Warming Acceleration”. This explanation for the rapid burst of warming may surprise you. Our second guest, Dr. Bjorn Stevens from the Max Planck Institute disagrees in a replay interview.

Later view I've posted in My Hansen thread.



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[abu afak]

It shows that the present climate is 2C cooler than previous interglacial periods with 26 ft shallower seas and 120 ppm more CO2.

Then of Course we have John Englander's take on HIS OWN Graph! which Destroy's Yours. (Graph seen in the vid)




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[abu afak]

It shows that the present climate is 2C cooler than previous interglacial periods with 26 ft shallower seas and 120 ppm more CO2.

Then of Course 3.
We have yet a Second Hansen update since your 2012, and my 2020!
Hardly News after the 2023 SPIKE.

AI Overview

"James Hansen and his colleagues are predicting a rapid acceleration of global warming, including a potential shift in the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC) and a surge in sea level rise.
Their research suggests that global temperatures could reach the 1.5°C and 2°C thresholds by the late 2020s and 2050s, respectively, even with current emissions. This is faster than previously anticipated and is attributed to factors like the reduction of sulfate aerosol pollution over Northern Hemisphere oceans.
Here's a more detailed look at Hansen's recent predictions:

Accelerated Warming:
Hansen's new research, published in 2024, indicates that global warming is accelerating faster than previously estimated. This is driven by the reduction of sulfate aerosols, which have a cooling effect, and the impact of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

AMOC Shutdown and Sea Level Rise:
The new study also explores the possibility of a shutdown in the AMOC, a major ocean current. This shutdown could lead to a sudden surge in sea level rise along the East Coast of North America and potentially bring more extreme climate events to Europe.

Exceeding Key Thresholds:
Hansen's research suggests that the 1.5°C warming threshold, which is a key target in the Paris Agreement, could be exceeded by the end of the 2020s. He further predicts that 2°C of warming could be reached before 2050, according to the Guardian.""


In summary, and in addition to your wrong take, your Graph was wildly Outdated and Obsolete... AGAIN
(many of your Misleading/irrelevantly scaled graphs end in the 1990s or 2000)

You can't debate me/Anyone you one-line Retarted gnome!
No way have the head to do what I just did.
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[ding]

LOL. You STILL Can't write more than One sentence/line!
Severe autism and always keep it short to hide your assailable wrong thinking.

That's an Idiotic and irrelevant Take you've Trolled many times before.
It matters whether those numbers are on the way up (Low and catching up) OR on the way down. (high and fading).
We are on the way UP/catching to our CO2 concentration.

Further, you posted Hansen and Sato from a 2012 Study (Your usual Obsolete graph trick
which is often even much Older/irrelevant)

Global Warming Acceleration! – Hansen & Sato​

December 30, 2020

2020 will be the Hottest year ever recorded AND the rate of global warming accelerated. On December 14, 2020 Dr. James Hansen, former NASA Goddard Space Institute Director, released a new post called “Global Warming Acceleration”. This explanation for the rapid burst of warming may surprise you. Our second guest, Dr. Bjorn Stevens from the Max Planck Institute disagrees in a replay interview.

Later view I've posted in My Hansen thread.



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Maybe someone should tell them that the theoretical surface warming from 120 ppm of CO2 is 0.5C. The rest is from the planet naturally warming up like it always does after a glacial period has ended.

 

[ding]

Then of Course we have John Englander's take on HIS OWN Graph! which Destroy's Yours. (Graph seen in the vid)




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His graph shows the exact same thing, dummy.

 

[ding]

Then of Course 3.
We have yet a Second Hansen update since your 2012, and my 2020!
Hardly News after the 2023 SPIKE.

AI Overview

"James Hansen and his colleagues are predicting a rapid acceleration of global warming, including a potential shift in the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC) and a surge in sea level rise.
Their research suggests that global temperatures could reach the 1.5°C and 2°C thresholds by the late 2020s and 2050s, respectively, even with current emissions. This is faster than previously anticipated and is attributed to factors like the reduction of sulfate aerosol pollution over Northern Hemisphere oceans.
Here's a more detailed look at Hansen's recent predictions:

Accelerated Warming:
Hansen's new research, published in 2024, indicates that global warming is accelerating faster than previously estimated. This is driven by the reduction of sulfate aerosols, which have a cooling effect, and the impact of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

AMOC Shutdown and Sea Level Rise:
The new study also explores the possibility of a shutdown in the AMOC, a major ocean current. This shutdown could lead to a sudden surge in sea level rise along the East Coast of North America and potentially bring more extreme climate events to Europe.

Exceeding Key Thresholds:
Hansen's research suggests that the 1.5°C warming threshold, which is a key target in the Paris Agreement, could be exceeded by the end of the 2020s. He further predicts that 2°C of warming could be reached before 2050, according to the Guardian.""


In summary, and in addition to your wrong take, your Graph was wildly Outdated and Obsolete... AGAIN
(many of your Misleading/irrelevantly scaled graphs end in the 1990s or 2000)

You can't debate me/Anyone you one-line Retarted gnome!
No way have the head to do what I just did.
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What are you yammering about now? Be clear.

 

[abu afak]

Its all tax subsidies and mandates a false economy
In 2022, under the Inflation Reduction Act, First Solar became the biggest beneficiary of $1 trillion in environmental spending. First Solar executives and lobbyists met at least four times in late 2022 and 2023 with administration officials who oversaw the measure’s environmental provisions. Democratic donors had invested heavily in the company prior to the act being signed into law.<a href="First Solar - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a>

Its all propped up by our taxes

 

[otto105]

What are you yammering about now? Be clear.

Climate toddler!

How the lies going today?

 

[EMH]

Climate toddler!

How the lies going today?

If the planet has been "warming" for the past 150 years, how is this still happening all the time?

Frigid cold breaks decades-old records in Portland, Augusta

Temperatures dropped to near zero — with wind chills in the negatives — Thursday night into Friday morning as the chilly air set in behind an arctic cold front.

www.pressherald.com

 

[otto105]

If the planet has been "warming" for the past 150 years, how is this still happening all the time?

Frigid cold breaks decades-old records in Portland, Augusta

Temperatures dropped to near zero — with wind chills in the negatives — Thursday night into Friday morning as the chilly air set in behind an arctic cold front.

www.pressherald.com

Wonderful climate toddler!

The sun rises in the west right!!!

 

[EMH]

Wonderful climate toddler!

The sun rises in the west right!!!

Can't answer basic climate questions.

In theory, a planet that has been warming for 150 years would have no record low temperatures, but our planet has them all the time, and CO2 FRAUD science invalid supporters like you cannot explain that.

Because the actual answer is EARTH IS NOT WARMING.

 

[otto105]

If the planet has been "warming" for the past 150 years, how is this still happening all the time?

Frigid cold breaks decades-old records in Portland, Augusta

Temperatures dropped to near zero — with wind chills in the negatives — Thursday night into Friday morning as the chilly air set in behind an arctic cold front.

www.pressherald.com

Wow, can I cite every time a new high temperature is set as same evidence of AGW!!!

 

[otto105]

Can't answer basic climate questions.

In theory, a planet that has been warming for 150 years would have no record low temperatures, but our planet has them all the time, and CO2 FRAUD science invalid supporters like you cannot explain that.

Because the actual answer is EARTH IS NOT WARMING.

Hilarious

You’re still at the water is wet issue.

 

[Stann]

Can't answer basic climate questions.

In theory, a planet that has been warming for 150 years would have no record low temperatures, but our planet has them all the time, and CO2 FRAUD science invalid supporters like you cannot explain that.

Because the actual answer is EARTH IS NOT WARMING.

There are exceptions to every rule.No foubtnextueariteill be the opposite or near normal. The general trend cannot be denied
The earth is warming at an extraordinary rate due to mankind's activities on the planet. You keep trying to find exceptions. They are few and far between.

 

[Mushroom]

85% of New power generation in 2021 was from Renewables.

An absolutely useless claim, as around 98% is still produced by other means.

Yes, only 11% of the 12% of "renewable energy" is solar. Care to do the math to see how little that really is? When going from a baseline that small, of course it seems far larger than it is. And care to do the math to figure out what it would take to replace the other 90%?

Two times more power comes from hydro than solar, and laughingly states like California are actually destroying their own dams at the same time they are screaming they do not have enough water or power.

It's about as logical as complaining your head hurts, so to stop that you start drilling holes in your skull.

 

[Stann]

An absolutely useless claim, as around 98% is still produced by other means.

Yes, only 11% of the 12% of "renewable energy" is solar. Care to do the math to see how little that really is? When going from a baseline that small, of course it seems far larger than it is. And care to do the math to figure out what it would take to replace the other 90%?

Two times more power comes from hydro than solar, and laughingly states like California are actually destroying their own dams at the same time they are screaming they do not have enough water or power.

It's about as logical as complaining your head hurts, so to stop that you start drilling holes in your skull.

NEW was the key word in that message. We are far behind Europe and other developer nations in building solar and wind capture infrastructure. It's just starting by 2040 that increases to 50 %> After that it's all over for polluting oil. Oil will be so costly by then it will be saved for special purposes like lubricants for specialized technology.

 

[Mushroom]

NEW was the key word in that message.

I am aware of that. Which makes it absolutely useless to make any kind of case on.

If I install solar panels on my roof, that is "NEW power". However, how much power is that? Pretty insignificant.

Once again, 11% of 12% of power is a pretty damned insignificant amount. Especially when considering how long it makes to build conventional power plants that actually produce a significant amount of power. I can install new solar on my house in a month or less. The time to go through the approval process for conventional power ranges from 4-10+ years.

And that is just approval time, it does not even include the time to actually build the power plant.

 

[Stann]

I am aware of that. Which makes it absolutely useless to make any kind of case on.

If I install solar panels on my roof, that is "NEW power". However, how much power is that? Pretty insignificant.

Once again, 11% of 12% of power is a pretty damned insignificant amount. Especially when considering how long it makes to build conventional power plants that actually produce a significant amount of power. I can install new solar on my house in a month or less. The time to go through the approval process for conventional power ranges from 4-10+ years.

And that is just approval time, it does not even include the time to actually build the power plant.

It won't be insignificant in a few years. I cannot speak for anyone else but here in the Midwest in Iowa and Nebraska they are now able to close down old dirty coal-burning electric plants because of all the new solar fields and wind- generating turbines. That's progress.

 

[Mushroom]

It won't be insignificant in a few years.

It will always be insignificant.

In the last two decades, it has increased from .02% to around 5%. Care to do the math to see how long it is going to take to reach even 25% or 50%?

And add into that the older systems are already failing due to age so need to be replaced.

See, this is the difference. I am making a claim based on actual facts, you are basing your claim entirely based on what you believe with no real facts.

 

[justoffal]

NEW was the key word in that message. We are far behind Europe and other developer nations in building solar and wind capture infrastructure. It's just starting by 2040 that increases to 50 %> After that it's all over for polluting oil. Oil will be so costly by then it will be saved for special purposes like lubricants for specialized technology.

Once fusion goes online all wind and solar will become utterly obsolete. It will happen.