Will religious "restoration" laws have some ugly unintended consequences?

[hangover]

Will religious "restoration" laws have some ugly unintended consequences?

It's amazing how far the the right wing religious nut jobs will go to stop the evolution of "intelligent" life. Now they're trying to bring back the inquisition.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Will religious "restoration" laws have some ugly unintended consequences?

It's amazing how far the the right wing religious nut jobs will go to stop the evolution of "intelligent" life. Now they're trying to bring back the inquisition.

For them those were the good old days.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So if a person's "religious belief" is that black people are demons from Satan, the government is obliged to allow that person to refuse service to black people?

How patently absurd. There are in fact limits, believe it or not.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Clearly you're a fucking idiot, because indeed the government does forbid discrimination based on race, generally speaking.

But Federal Public Accommodation law does not mention sexual orientation. The law has not been amended to do so. The law was specifically geared towards race in general.

 

[FA_Q2]

I heard something in a news clip today about Indiana's new law, and it sent shivers down my spine.

It's still up to state courts to make a decision where a person has a sincere religious belief..."

This is a real problem. When the government starts evaluating the sincerity of people's religious beliefs, the 1st amendment ceases to exist. Government has no business weighing and measuring the sincerity of a person's religious beliefs. If a Jew eats bacon cheeseburgers twice a week and works on Saturday, is this evidence against him if he sues his previous employer for being fired because of his religion? If a Christian is promiscuous and never goes to church, do they lose the right to withhold birth control coverage if they own a company?

This is going to come back and bite us on the ass.

So you support making 'religious belief' a sort of 'get out of the Constitution free' card that someone can play anytime they don't like the idea of respecting the equal rights of others?

Silly thing trying to apply constitutional protection on entities that are not the govern,ment and not covered under those protections. Or do you think that

Religious 'restoration' laws aren't thought through. If Christian dogma trumps civil law.......so does Sharia. You're literally subsuming civil law, the courts, even the USSC in a subservient, submissive status below radical Islam. Or moderate Islam. Or Buddhism. Or Zorastrianism. Or Satanism. Or any religious belief anywhere.

The fringe left has been pushing the idea that mere FEELINGS should be legally authoritative. The fringe right has now officially adopted the same argument. Simply slapping the word 'religious' in front of it.

And the part that's astonishing? When the courts predictably slap this shit down, as they should.....some Christians, oblivious to the unintended consequences of their demands, will cast themselves as downtrodden victims. And the failure of Christianity to be the legally dominant force in our nation as a 'war on Christians'.

There are just some folks that define themselves by a perception of persecution and victimhood.

No. There is a key difference in law that bars you from taking action and law that requires you take action and that really is the rub here.

In cases where sharia does not allow for a Muslim to partake in doing something then absolutely - the government should not be there to force them to comply. That does not mean that they are 'subservient' in any such regard.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The no Jews or Christians gas station is open for business. Enjoy.

Fine by me. Do they have Top Tier gas...if so, my wife and I will fuel our bikes there.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The no Jews or Christians gas station is open for business. Enjoy.

Fine by me. Do they have Top Tier gas...if so, my wife and I will fuel our bikes there.

You will be allowed, to keep your Jew-asses on your bikes and move on down the road.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Dial back the 'shrooms, boy, you're hallucinating again!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Dial back the 'shrooms, boy, you're hallucinating again!

Nope, reality is about to burn shit down.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Dude...only you can hear those voices in your head.

 

[SwimExpert]

But Federal Public Accommodation law does not mention sexual orientation.

Rabbi the Idiotic said "any reason whatsoever."

 

[SwimExpert]

So if a person's "religious belief" is that black people are demons from Satan, the government is obliged to allow that person to refuse service to black people?

How patently absurd. There are in fact limits, believe it or not.

I look forward to a demonstration.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So if a person's "religious belief" is that black people are demons from Satan, the government is obliged to allow that person to refuse service to black people?

How patently absurd. There are in fact limits, believe it or not.

I look forward to a demonstration.

Then all you need do is read, if you are capable of such.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If that's true then why does the government get to shut down a bakery for not making a homo wedding cake?

Where has the government shutdown a bakery for not making a homo wedding cake?


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Oregon Bakers to Pay Up to 150K for Refusing Lesbian Couple a Wedding Cake - Breitbart
The state was simply wrong. If the bakery had been a non profit they would have have been able to refuse. But the Supreme Court negated that distinction in Hobby Lobby.

They closed up because their bigotry cost them a huge chunk of their business. The 'free market' got them. lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Clearly you're a fucking idiot, because indeed the government does forbid discrimination based on race, generally speaking.

But Federal Public Accommodation law does not mention sexual orientation. The law has not been amended to do so. The law was specifically geared towards race in general.

But what if a religion believes that race mixing is wrong?

 

[Seawytch]

The Satanists could save us all...(pardon the hyperbole...I don't actually think we need "saving")

Can the Satanic Temple Save America?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Satanists could save us all...(pardon the hyperbole...I don't actually think we need "saving")

Can the Satanic Temple Save America?

Sounds like a party alright. More power to them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Gay people in America are simply going to need to start claiming that their belief in gay rights is a religious belief.

THEN where the fuck will your RWnuts go?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Gay people in America are simply going to need to start claiming that their belief in gay rights is a religious belief.

THEN where the fuck will your RWnuts go?

A religion based on racial superiority is already approved so that's hardly a stretch.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Gay people in America are simply going to need to start claiming that their belief in gay rights is a religious belief.

THEN where the fuck will your RWnuts go?

A religion based on racial superiority is already approved so that's hardly a stretch.

Gays need to 'marry' in church ceremonies to establish their unions as religious exercises, and then if they are refused service, or housing, or employment, etc., anywhere,

they should sue on the grounds that they've been discriminated against because of their religion.