Texas Governor Defends Religious Liberties, Game On!!!

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Texas Governor Defends Religious Liberties"

Texas governor exhibits his ignorance of the law.

Today's ruling has nothing to do with 'religious liberties.'

The settled and accepted 14th Amendment jurisprudence that guided the Court applies solely to state and local governments, not private persons or religious organizations such as churches who remain at liberty to not afford religious marriage rituals to same-sex couples.

This nonsense about 'religious liberty' fails as a red herring fallacy.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If nothing else Texas has the left loons frothing at the mouth

 

[Moonglow]

I am most devilishly smirking at the religious nutzies flopping around like fish out of water, what with their tight nut hold on humans in society growing up, I am sure having a smirk on their behalf...

 

[emilynghiem]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, Texas just gave a big FU to SCOTUS

Texas Governor Defends Religious Liberties

There is one state (and if you have read my articles before, you know which one I’m talking about) that is already leading the way, in essence combating SCOTUS and their disastrous decision. Of course, I’m talking about the Lone Star State.

In a directive issued in the last few hours, Texas Governor Gregg Abbott has informed all those agencies that they are to comply with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Act. In other words, he just shut down same-sex marriage in Texas and ordered everyone to preserve the religious liberties and First Amendment rights of all Texans.

Read it here:

“Texans of all faiths must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious freedom is beyond the reach of government,” Governor Abbott wrote in the memorandum obtained by Breitbart Texas. “Renewing and reinforcing that promise is all the more important in light of the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges. The government must never pressure a person to abandon or violate his or her sincerely held religious beliefs regarding a topic such as marriage. That sort of religious coercion will never be a ‘compelling governmental interest,’ and it will never be ‘the least restrictive means of furthering that interest.’”

“With these obligations in mind,” Abbott continued, “I expect all agencies under my direction to prioritize compliance with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act. All state agency heads should ensure that no one acting on behalf of their agency takes any adverse action against any person, as defined in Chapter 311 of the Texas Government Code, on account of the person’s act or refusal to act that is substantially motivated by sincere religious belief. This order applies to any agency decision, including but not limited to granting or denying benefits, managing agency employees, entering or enforcing agency contracts, licensing and permitting decisions, or enforcing state laws and regulations.”

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Any state official that refuses to issue a marriage license based on their personal religious beliefs will run headlong into the constitution. As a state worker, you represent the State. And there is no State exemption from the constitution based on the State's religious beliefs.

Texas will lose, as it always does.

Services rendered to a citizen cannot be based on a clerk determining that the citizen is palatable religiously.

Do 'conservatives' not understand equal protection?

The services involving religious views and beliefs can be removed from the state,
and just leave the secular services and policies people agree are neutral and don't impose views.

Do liberals understand that "separation of church and state"
should apply to keeping their secular beliefs out of public policy also?

 

[Skylar]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, Texas just gave a big FU to SCOTUS

Texas Governor Defends Religious Liberties

There is one state (and if you have read my articles before, you know which one I’m talking about) that is already leading the way, in essence combating SCOTUS and their disastrous decision. Of course, I’m talking about the Lone Star State.

In a directive issued in the last few hours, Texas Governor Gregg Abbott has informed all those agencies that they are to comply with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Act. In other words, he just shut down same-sex marriage in Texas and ordered everyone to preserve the religious liberties and First Amendment rights of all Texans.

Read it here:

“Texans of all faiths must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious freedom is beyond the reach of government,” Governor Abbott wrote in the memorandum obtained by Breitbart Texas. “Renewing and reinforcing that promise is all the more important in light of the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges. The government must never pressure a person to abandon or violate his or her sincerely held religious beliefs regarding a topic such as marriage. That sort of religious coercion will never be a ‘compelling governmental interest,’ and it will never be ‘the least restrictive means of furthering that interest.’”

“With these obligations in mind,” Abbott continued, “I expect all agencies under my direction to prioritize compliance with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act. All state agency heads should ensure that no one acting on behalf of their agency takes any adverse action against any person, as defined in Chapter 311 of the Texas Government Code, on account of the person’s act or refusal to act that is substantially motivated by sincere religious belief. This order applies to any agency decision, including but not limited to granting or denying benefits, managing agency employees, entering or enforcing agency contracts, licensing and permitting decisions, or enforcing state laws and regulations.”

Governor of Texas Just Said What He s Doing After Gay Marriage Ruling It s HARDCORE

It's done and over , it is the law of the United States

The Constitution is the law of the land
and Natural Laws are the law of humanity.

guno you cannot legislate changes to people's beliefs by a court ruling.

Nope. But you can legislate state actions under the law. And its the State that has to issue marriage licenses.

People will still believe as they do, and defend that by natural laws
in the First and Fourteenth Amendment protecting beliefs EQUALLY.

Not all beliefs are equally valid constitutionally. Until you resolve this fundamental problem with your reasoning, it is hopelessly broken.

 

[Skylar]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, Texas just gave a big FU to SCOTUS

Texas Governor Defends Religious Liberties

There is one state (and if you have read my articles before, you know which one I’m talking about) that is already leading the way, in essence combating SCOTUS and their disastrous decision. Of course, I’m talking about the Lone Star State.

In a directive issued in the last few hours, Texas Governor Gregg Abbott has informed all those agencies that they are to comply with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Act. In other words, he just shut down same-sex marriage in Texas and ordered everyone to preserve the religious liberties and First Amendment rights of all Texans.

Read it here:

“Texans of all faiths must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious freedom is beyond the reach of government,” Governor Abbott wrote in the memorandum obtained by Breitbart Texas. “Renewing and reinforcing that promise is all the more important in light of the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges. The government must never pressure a person to abandon or violate his or her sincerely held religious beliefs regarding a topic such as marriage. That sort of religious coercion will never be a ‘compelling governmental interest,’ and it will never be ‘the least restrictive means of furthering that interest.’”

“With these obligations in mind,” Abbott continued, “I expect all agencies under my direction to prioritize compliance with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Article I of the Texas Constitution, and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act. All state agency heads should ensure that no one acting on behalf of their agency takes any adverse action against any person, as defined in Chapter 311 of the Texas Government Code, on account of the person’s act or refusal to act that is substantially motivated by sincere religious belief. This order applies to any agency decision, including but not limited to granting or denying benefits, managing agency employees, entering or enforcing agency contracts, licensing and permitting decisions, or enforcing state laws and regulations.”

Governor of Texas Just Said What He s Doing After Gay Marriage Ruling It s HARDCORE

Any state official that refuses to issue a marriage license based on their personal religious beliefs will run headlong into the constitution. As a state worker, you represent the State. And there is no State exemption from the constitution based on the State's religious beliefs.

Texas will lose, as it always does.

Services rendered to a citizen cannot be based on a clerk determining that the citizen is palatable religiously.

Do 'conservatives' not understand equal protection?

The services involving religious views and beliefs can be removed from the state,
and just leave the secular services and policies people agree are neutral and don't impose views.

Or......the state can merely recognize marriage as a legal entity void of any religious considerations. As it does now. Which is far simpler, is already happening, and doesn't require that we invalidate all marriage certificates for everyone.

 

[DarkFury]

You realize he's just trying to force a court battle that will eventually be lost by texas

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

 

[Skylar]

You realize he's just trying to force a court battle that will eventually be lost by texas

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

 

[deltex1]

D'oh!! Wedding on!

Same-Sex Marriage First Couple to Marry in Texas Waited 54 Years

Redefined wedding on.....a fucking farce.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You realize he's just trying to force a court battle that will eventually be lost by texas

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

 

[Disir]

Can we tally up all the money that Abbott has wasted?

Lulz

 

[LoneLaugher]

D'oh!! Wedding on!

Same-Sex Marriage First Couple to Marry in Texas Waited 54 Years

Redefined wedding on.....a fucking farce.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[ogibillm]

You realize he's just trying to force a court battle that will eventually be lost by texas

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

They arent adult enough. Yet. Someday they will be, and the apology will be forthcoming

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

EMILYNGHIEM SAID:

“...you cannot legislate changes to people's beliefs by a court ruling.”

No one is arguing otherwise.

Again:

14th Amendment jurisprudence applies solely to state and local governments, not private persons and organizations, who remain at liberty to believe as they see fit with regard to homosexuality.

No one seeks through the political or legal process to “change[]people's beliefs,” the issue before the Court was a conflict between same-sex couples and their states of residence, where those states as a fact of law violated the due process and equal protection rights of the gay Americans residing in those states.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Skylar]

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

They arent adult enough. Yet. Someday they will be, and the apology will be forthcoming

Exactly. Eventually even the most petulant child matures and grows enough to acknowledge when their wrong. I am fully confident that Texas has the same potential.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Can we tally up all the money that Abbott has wasted?

Lulz

You mean money spent kicking abortion Barbie to the curb, what a shellacking that was. Texas loves Abbot

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

They arent adult enough. Yet. Someday they will be, and the apology will be forthcoming

Exactly. Eventually even the most petulant child matures and grows enough to acknowledge when their wrong. I am fully confident that Texas has the same potential.

You have a freaking Panda for an avatar and you're talking maturity?

 

[Skylar]

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

They arent adult enough. Yet. Someday they will be, and the apology will be forthcoming

Exactly. Eventually even the most petulant child matures and grows enough to acknowledge when their wrong. I am fully confident that Texas has the same potential.

You have a freaking Panda for an avatar and you're talking maturity?

A Kung-Fu panda, thankyouverymuch.

 

[DarkFury]

Texas already knows what it is like getting into a fight you MIGHT lose. They have a monument to it. Sometimes the stand is more important then a win or loss. BECAUSE it is the stand that measures the person.

Yeah, but the folks in the Alamo didn't fight so they could deny someone else fundamental civil rights.

In order for YOU to understand what Texans were fighting for YOU need to read the laws of the REPUBLIC of TEXAS. It was it's own country moron with it's OWN laws AND government.

Its not a country now. Its part of the United States. And its laws are subject to constitutional guarantees.

Texas is fighting to deny its citizens fundamental civil rights. And that's a battle they will lose morally, historically, and legally. And should. As its pretty loathsome.

Mark my words. In our lifetime, Texas will issue an apology for the shit they're doing right now.

You drip, Texas apologizes to nobody

They arent adult enough. Yet. Someday they will be, and the apology will be forthcoming

You could be waiting a LONG damn time for that apology.
A LONG damn time. How long is long in Texas? No one has heard one yet.