Why Conservatives Are Really The Same As Communists

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    Communist doctrine demands that all people are created equal, but as Orwell pointed out, 'some are more equal than others'. IOW, the reality is a whole lot different.

    With conservatives (on this board anyway), they want everybody to be equal. ie: if you work hard, are not a lazy arse, then you will get the rewards you deserve just like everybody else.

    Now, the thing is, if we all managed to fulfil the Conservative Doctrine - ie, full employment, work hard, and enjoy the fruits of our labour, then isn't that communism? We'll all be the same? We all would have the same working conditions etc?

    I am being slightly facetious, but I'm really trying to point out how ridiculous conservative thought is. Do conservatives really believe that we can ALL have excellent paying jobs, benefits and therefore not be a burden on the tax system? Do they really believe that? If so, then they are morons, because even the most dimmest lightbulb on either aisle knows that there are not enough jobs that pay $120,000 a year plus benefits. They know that when they yell "Stop whining about your lot in life and get yourself a better job", that if everybody ACTUALLY attempted this, then there are not enough jobs to go around. IOW, they are demanding of EVERYBODY, something that in reality can never happen.

    This is why when it comes to jobs and the free market, conservatives are full of shit. All they see is their own set of circumstances and achievements, and can't for the life of them figure out that their end game is some idealised Utopia that is impossible to fulfil.


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    Equal before the law and equality of opportunity =/= Equality of outcome

    Just sayin'.
     
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    thanks for sharing.
     
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    Conservatism is equal opportunity.
    Opportunity brings choices.
    Choices have rewards and consequences.
     
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    Totally agree. But if we were to all take advantage of the opportunity, would we all get the benefits? No. Not enough to go around, so therefore is the Conservative Doctrine of demanding this from EVERYONE, a realistic outcome?

    Who has the more realistic thought? The conservative who demands what I said in the OP, or the liberals, who do want people to succeed but realise that there are those that never will, and want to put programmes/agencies in place that deal with people who are at the bottom of the cliff?
     
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    I agree.

    And if we all make the right choices, are there enough rewards for everybody? The answer is a resounding no....

    Check the number of jobs on offer paying decent wages, then check the number of unemployed....
     
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    Conservatives are a bunch of little red hens.


    (Anyone else remember that story? Favorite at our household)

    those who do the work should get the fruits of their labor
     
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    Everyone making the right choices is not reality.
     
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    The Conservative Doctrine does not involve the working and middle classes being bled out by the government to pay of their Mega Corporate Cronies. If we let the Too Big Actually Fail, we wouldn't need to keep bleeding out working and middle class to bail them out.

    The best rising tide is a growing economy which creates real jobs. History has proven that low tax rates with limited government foster the best climate. The alternative is we are all wards or serfs of the government, to varying degrees.
     
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    The communists are on the left and the left is full of %&#@%. Conservatives want people to be self sufficient and not dependent on the gov't like the left wants.
     

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