Zone1 Urim and Thummim

[BS Filter]

Nothing about women being priests. You are delusional and without understanding.

Everyone who is a Believer is a priest. 1 peter 2:9.

 

[Cougarbear]

Everyone who is a Believer is a priest. 1 peter 2:9.

Again, no mention of women. It’s understood in those days what the Priesthood is and who holds the Priesthood. Men were the leaders who held the priesthood and this concept continued until recently when the woke have forced churches to accept women as priests.
See, wives share in their husband’s priesthood and have so since Moses. You can’t just say everyone. You don’t have that authority unless you think you are God.

 

[BS Filter]

Again, no mention of women. It’s understood in those days what the Priesthood is and who holds the Priesthood. Men were the leaders who held the priesthood and this concept continued until recently when the woke have forced churches to accept women as priests.
See, wives share in their husband’s priesthood and have so since Moses. You can’t just say everyone. You don’t have that authority unless you think you are God.

The lenter is written to the believers. You are believing a false narrative. ALL believers are priests. Every believer has access to God now. Your Old Testament priesthood is over, just like OT prophets are no more. Jesus is the fulfillment.

 

[Cougarbear]

The lenter is written to the believers. You are believing a false narrative. ALL believers are priests. Every believer has access to God now. Your Old Testament priesthood is over, just like OT prophets are no more. Jesus is the fulfillment.

Has nothing to do with who holds the Priesthood. Men held the Priesthood back then and today. You have polluted the priesthood and thus are canceled as a Christian

 

[BS Filter]

Has nothing to do with who holds the Priesthood. Men held the Priesthood back then and today. You have polluted the priesthood and thus are canceled as a Christian

Wrong. The letter is speaking to every believer. You don't understand your Bible.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wrong. The letter is speaking to every believer. You don't understand your Bible.

You don’t understand the history of the people in the Bible. Total ignorance.

 

[BS Filter]

You don’t understand the history of the people in the Bible. Total ignorance.

The Epistles of the Apostles are written to believers. You don't have authority over them.

 

[Cougarbear]

The Epistles of the Apostles are written to believers. You don't have authority over them.

No, you don’t have authority over them as you reject their messages and cannot comprehend simple historical concepts. Women do not lead the men in the Church. 1Timothy 2:12. Women do not usurp authority over men. Priesthood is that authority. Instead, as women follow righteously they will share in the blessings of the royal priesthood given to men to do the work of God. Your are now in the dog house.

 

[BS Filter]

No, you don’t have authority over them as you reject their messages and cannot comprehend simple historical concepts. Women do not lead the men in the Church. 1Timothy 2:12. Women do not usurp authority over men. Priesthood is that authority. Instead, as women follow righteously they will share in the blessings of the royal priesthood given to men to do the work of God. Your are now in the dog house.

Scripture says that all believers are a royal priesthood. Period. You don't believe Scripture. You put authority in your false prophets.

 

[Cougarbear]

Scripture says that all believers are a royal priesthood. Period. You don't believe Scripture. You put authority in your false prophets.

You can’t win this. There are comas signifying different groups, a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people. A royal priesthood is singled out as an individual group, men. The history and what Paul said about men and women. Men hold the priesthood. Women cannot. They cannot usurp the men.

 

[rosends]

Interesting read: The Urim & Thummim

The Urim and Thummim did not work when there were no more prophets. But, it also says this: "By means of the Urim, the priest inquired of YHWH on behalf of the ruler (Num. 27:21; cf. Yoma 7:5, "only for the king, the high court, or someone serving a need of the community"); they were one of the three legitimate means of obtaining oracles in early Israel (Urim, dreams, prophets);" Which Church claims to have used the Urim and Thummim? The Catholic Church? No. The Jewish rabbis around the world? No. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Yes! And, we have prophets, seers and revelators called Apostles. Good to know.

you took some of that text from a website. This is fine. But later, on the same page, the text reads, "In postexilic times, when the Urim oracle was extinct, difficult questions were reserved "until a priest would appear with Urim and Thummim" (Ezra 2:63; Neh. 7:65; cf. Sot. 9:12: "After the former (i.e., pre-exilic) prophets died, the Urim and Thummim became extinct";

if you are going to go according to what you learned on that webpage, then maybe you should read the entire webpage and have an explanation for why you pick and choose which parts you want to invoke.

 

[Cougarbear]

you took some of that text from a website. This is fine. But later, on the same page, the text reads, "In postexilic times, when the Urim oracle was extinct, difficult questions were reserved "until a priest would appear with Urim and Thummim" (Ezra 2:63; Neh. 7:65; cf. Sot. 9:12: "After the former (i.e., pre-exilic) prophets died, the Urim and Thummim became extinct";

if you are going to go according to what you learned on that webpage, then maybe you should read the entire webpage and have an explanation for why you pick and choose which parts you want to invoke.

Not sure what you’re saying. Joseph Smith had the Priesthood.

 

[rosends]

Not sure what you’re saying. Joseph Smith had the Priesthood.

the website you are relying on to give authority to a later priesthood says that the entire system ended.

 

[Cougarbear]

the website you are relying on to give authority to a later priesthood says that the entire system ended.

Where does it say it ended? And if it did, why did it end? Because Hebrews was written later by Paul with the two priesthoods.

 

[The Duke]

Do you believe Jehovah came down to become Jesus Christ? If you are a Christian, you would say yes. JW's don't believe this so how could they be a true Christian religion or Church?

Do you? God clearly said it was his son, so no, I don't.

 

[BS Filter]

You can’t win this. There are comas signifying different groups, a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people. A royal priesthood is singled out as an individual group, men. The history and what Paul said about men and women. Men hold the priesthood. Women cannot. They cannot usurp the men.

Wrong. Those terms are all describing believers. That's a lie.

 

[Cougarbear]

Do you? God clearly said it was his son, so no, I don't.

The difference is I don’t believe Jehovah is the Father. I believe Elohim, the most High God is the Father. Jehovah is one of His billions of sons who is the greatest of intelligences. So close to the Father that the Father called him to his Godhead along with who we call The Holy Ghost.
When Elohim called all His children together for a universe conference he presented His plan for all of us to evolve into like he and our mother in heaven are. Lucifer contended that he would take away free choice for us to decide to follow by faith or not. He would force us to be good. With this, he would take away the glory of Elohim and Jehovah and the Holy Ghost and take all glory for himself replacing the Godhead.
Jehovah said he would follow the Father’s plan and be the redeemer and give all glory to our Father. A vote was taken. 2/3 of all of us chose the Father’s plan and the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven sided with Lucifer and began to contend and fight those of us who stayed with the Godhead. That third of the hosts of heaven were kicked out and sent to the earth to be part of the plan to test our faith in the Godhead’s plan. That’s why everything has its opposites and why bad things happen to good people.
Jehovah came to the earth as Jesus Christ.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wrong. Those terms are all describing believers. That's a lie.

You again show no ability to comprehend or understand English. No cognitive ability to reason logically. I’m debating a door bell.

 

[BS Filter]

You again show no ability to comprehend or understand English. No cognitive ability to reason logically. I’m debating a door bell.

Sad. All you have is lies and insults. Not a very good representative for your cult.

 

[The Duke]

The difference is I don’t believe Jehovah is the Father. I believe Elohim, the most High God is the Father. Jehovah is one of His billions of sons who is the greatest of intelligences. So close to the Father that the Father called him to his Godhead along with who we call The Holy Ghost.
When Elohim called all His children together for a universe conference he presented His plan for all of us to evolve into like he and our mother in heaven are. Lucifer contended that he would take away free choice for us to decide to follow by faith or not. He would force us to be good. With this, he would take away the glory of Elohim and Jehovah and the Holy Ghost and take all glory for himself replacing the Godhead.
Jehovah said he would follow the Father’s plan and be the redeemer and give all glory to our Father. A vote was taken. 2/3 of all of us chose the Father’s plan and the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven sided with Lucifer and began to contend and fight those of us who stayed with the Godhead. That third of the hosts of heaven were kicked out and sent to the earth to be part of the plan to test our faith in the Godhead’s plan. That’s why everything has its opposites and why bad things happen to good people.
Jehovah came to the earth as Jesus Christ.

Al-righty then.