U.S. Supreme court deals major blow to the ten commandments

[bodecea]

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court took sides in a heated dispute over a Ten Commandments display on the lawn of a city hall building in Bloomfield, New Mexico, siding with lower courts that found its presence unconstitutional. It’s a conclusion to the City of Bloomfield v. Felix case that has the American Civil Liberties Union, among other groups, elated, heralding the move as a First Amendment victory. Meanwhile, conservative critics are less than content over the SCOTUS decision. David

U.S. Supreme Court Deals Major Blow to the Ten Commandments
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You leftist assholes have no clue what you are doing as you strip this nation of everything we were built upon and as you retards of the ANTI American hate groups go around turning America into N. Korea you rejects won't realize what you've done until years later. That's how works assholes..............then we all pay for your stupidity even people from other Countries see and understand what is going on yet the very fkning assholes who live here can't see a thing. gawd you fkrs are so beyond idiots.

Uh, the Supreme Court is conservative

Not quite yet, we have 3 more geezers who have to kick the bucket and then the left will never win a SC decision ever again.

The Supreme court is stacked with Catholics and Jews, all of whom hold the 10 commandments in reverence. We already have many laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness. Some of the other commandments are more troublesome for our society - such as having no other Gods, keeping the Sabbath holy, the bit about no graven images, statues, idols. How would capitalism exist without coveting? Adultery? Well, there goes Trump. Cursing? There goes just about everyone on this forum. Once again, it is a matter of image over substance. People like the OP cry about how the left is tearing down what the country was built upon, but under closer examination, they don't follow most of commandments anyway. In other words, hypocrisy.

Wait...."laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness"? You mean, until Moses, no civilization had laws against murder, theft, and bearing false witness?

 

[The Derp]

Wait...."laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness"? You mean, until Moses, no civilization had laws against murder, theft, and bearing false witness?

These guys are shocked to find out that Aesop wrote moral fables 300 years before Jesus was even born.

 

[Auld Phart]

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

Right...so displays of religious imagery on and in public lands would be....state endorsement of religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

Religion is totalitarianism...it's the belief of a higher authority. That is totalitarianism, pal. Sorry to burst your bubble.

only a complete moron would consider that a 'prayer meeting',, or having anything to do with religion

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Says who? Show in the Constitution where the ten commandments aren't supposed to be on public land?

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

How sad that your religion is destroyed if there are not monuments to it paid for them with our tax dollars. What a weak god.

It is unconstitutional to repress the free expression of religion.

As to monuments and memorials - It costs more in tax dollars to tear down a monument that has stood for decades than to simply leave it alone.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

Right...so displays of religious imagery on and in public lands would be....state endorsement of religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

Religion is totalitarianism...it's the belief of a higher authority. That is totalitarianism, pal. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Your ignorance is appalling.

 

[The Derp]

Your ignorance is appalling.

Please, explain of what I am ignorant. Go ahead. Be my guest. Here's your chance. I'm handing it to you on a platter. Don't disappoint. Tell me of what it is I am ignorant.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Your ignorance is appalling.

Please, explain of what I am ignorant. Go ahead. Be my guest. Here's your chance. I'm handing it to you on a platter. Don't disappoint. Tell me of what it is I am ignorant.

This nonsense from #120

"Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:"

 

[The Derp]

This nonsense from #120 "Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:"

OK, so how is what I wrote "ignorance"? The photo of that prayer meeting is right there in black and white. Look, they're holding crosses and standing below a giant, flaming cross. What would you call a bunch of people in robes, holding crosses, and saying prayers? A fucking prayer meeting.

 

[Votto]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

Take a look at the walls in Congress and SCOTUS...

Key word, look at the WALLS.

Don't watch the Congressmen.

I say having the Ten Commandments in a government building full of politicians is insane. With commandments not to lie, steal, covet, or commit adultery, all it will do is cause a hostile work environment.

 

[bodecea]

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

Right...so displays of religious imagery on and in public lands would be....state endorsement of religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

Religion is totalitarianism...it's the belief of a higher authority. That is totalitarianism, pal. Sorry to burst your bubble.

only a complete moron would consider that a 'prayer meeting',, or having anything to do with religion

The KKK is a christian organization.....just ask them.

 

[bodecea]

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

How sad that your religion is destroyed if there are not monuments to it paid for them with our tax dollars. What a weak god.

It is unconstitutional to repress the free expression of religion.

As to monuments and memorials - It costs more in tax dollars to tear down a monument that has stood for decades than to simply leave it alone.

Ohhhhhhhh......so it's the cost that has you stumped.

 

[Borillar]

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court took sides in a heated dispute over a Ten Commandments display on the lawn of a city hall building in Bloomfield, New Mexico, siding with lower courts that found its presence unconstitutional. It’s a conclusion to the City of Bloomfield v. Felix case that has the American Civil Liberties Union, among other groups, elated, heralding the move as a First Amendment victory. Meanwhile, conservative critics are less than content over the SCOTUS decision. David

U.S. Supreme Court Deals Major Blow to the Ten Commandments
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You leftist assholes have no clue what you are doing as you strip this nation of everything we were built upon and as you retards of the ANTI American hate groups go around turning America into N. Korea you rejects won't realize what you've done until years later. That's how works assholes..............then we all pay for your stupidity even people from other Countries see and understand what is going on yet the very fkning assholes who live here can't see a thing. gawd you fkrs are so beyond idiots.

Uh, the Supreme Court is conservative

Not quite yet, we have 3 more geezers who have to kick the bucket and then the left will never win a SC decision ever again.

The Supreme court is stacked with Catholics and Jews, all of whom hold the 10 commandments in reverence. We already have many laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness. Some of the other commandments are more troublesome for our society - such as having no other Gods, keeping the Sabbath holy, the bit about no graven images, statues, idols. How would capitalism exist without coveting? Adultery? Well, there goes Trump. Cursing? There goes just about everyone on this forum. Once again, it is a matter of image over substance. People like the OP cry about how the left is tearing down what the country was built upon, but under closer examination, they don't follow most of commandments anyway. In other words, hypocrisy.

Wait...."laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness"? You mean, until Moses, no civilization had laws against murder, theft, and bearing false witness?

That's true. Those things were and are taboo in most civilizations. They didn't suddenly start after Moses brought the tablets down from Mt, Sinai.

 

[Auld Phart]

This nonsense from #120 "Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:"

OK, so how is what I wrote "ignorance"? The photo of that prayer meeting is right there in black and white. Look, they're holding crosses and standing below a giant, flaming cross. What would you call a bunch of people in robes, holding crosses, and saying prayers? A fucking prayer meeting.

a Klan meeting.

shame you cant tell the difference

Tell us, is this also a prayer meeting?

(daily Senate Prayer)

 

[Weatherman2020]

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

Right...so displays of religious imagery on and in public lands would be....state endorsement of religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

Religion is totalitarianism...it's the belief of a higher authority. That is totalitarianism, pal. Sorry to burst your bubble.

only a complete moron would consider that a 'prayer meeting',, or having anything to do with religion

The KKK is a christian organization.....just ask them.

Obama is a Christian... just ask him.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wait...."laws based on the commandments against murder, theft, and bearing false witness"? You mean, until Moses, no civilization had laws against murder, theft, and bearing false witness?

These guys are shocked to find out that Aesop wrote moral fables 300 years before Jesus was even born.

Dufus pretend theist believes Jesus wrote the 10 Commandments.

 

[Votto]

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

Right...so displays of religious imagery on and in public lands would be....state endorsement of religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

Public expression, how? What do you mean? You mean no more prayer meetings in Public places? Good call because these were the kinds of prayer meetings that were happening:

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

Religion is totalitarianism...it's the belief of a higher authority. That is totalitarianism, pal. Sorry to burst your bubble.

only a complete moron would consider that a 'prayer meeting',, or having anything to do with religion

The KKK is a christian organization.....just ask them.

And Trump and Obama say they are Christian, just ask them.

Hell, even Hitler said he was a Christian.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Oh, there certainly is, but not as expressed by the Left. The intent was to prevent the founding or recognition of a state religion.

There was never an intent to remove religion from the public square, nor was there any concerted attack on public expression prior to the 1950s, long after the Constitution became law.

The destruction of religion is a hallmark of totalitarianism. In America, it's easy enough to follow that sentiment to find the source.

How sad that your religion is destroyed if there are not monuments to it paid for them with our tax dollars. What a weak god.

It is unconstitutional to repress the free expression of religion.

As to monuments and memorials - It costs more in tax dollars to tear down a monument that has stood for decades than to simply leave it alone.

Ohhhhhhhh......so it's the cost that has you stumped.

It was you who brought up tax issues.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Meanwhile, the 10 commandments are etched in stone at the Supreme Court.

Nope

 

[MarkDuffy]

Meanwhile, the 10 commandments are etched in stone at the Supreme Court.

View attachment 155103 along with many other law codes and law givers......maybe they should be put up everywhere the 10 Commandments are. But I do have to ask this.......how many of our laws came exclusively from the 10 Commandments?

The depiction referred to here is a sculpture entitled “Justice the Guardian of Liberty” by Hermon A. McNeil, which appears on the eastern pediment of the Supreme Court building. (The eastern pediment is the back of the Supreme Court building, so this sculpture is not something one would see “walking up the steps to the building which houses the Supreme Court.” The front entrance is on the western side.) The sculpture was intended to be a symbolic representation of three of the Eastern civilizations from which our laws were derived, personified by the figures of three great lawgivers: Moses, Confucius, and Solon (surrounded by several allegorical figures representing a variety of legal themes):

McNeil described the symbolism of his work thusly:



Law as an element of civilization was normally and naturally derived or inherited in this country from former civilizations. The “Eastern Pediment” of the Supreme Court Building suggests therefore the treatment of such fundamental laws and precepts as are derived from the East. Moses, Confucius and Solon are chosen as representing three great civilizations and form the central group of this Pediment.



The two other lawgiver figures (Confucius and Solon) are not “facing [the] one in the middle” (i.e., Moses) as claimed above — all three of the lawgivers are depicted in full frontal views, facing forward. (The allegorical figures who flank the three lawgivers are indeed facing towards the middle, but they are looking in the direction of all three men, not just Moses.) The two tablets Moses holds in his arms are blank, without inscription.

Religious Symbols in the U.S. National Capital

 

[MarkDuffy]

It's trivial to do so, and it's already been done.

"no law respecting an establishment of religion"

"Respecting" in that context means "in regards to". No part of any government in the USA can make any sort of laws that are pro- or anti- any religion. They have to stay neutral on the subject. Posting the 10 commandments is definitely not being neutral.

Basic English. If conservatives would only learn it, along with basic logic and basic morality, they wouldn't constantly fail so hard with their whiny Constitutional, historical and moral revisionism. The funniest part is how they get so upset when you point out their revisionism.

It's obvious the founding fathers based the foundation of this country with a belief in God. The first amendment states that they can't force you or prevent you from following a religion. That's it. Doesn't say anything about the country not being founded on a belief in God though.

The pledge of allegiance and our currency all reference God. Should those be regarded as unconstitutional as well?

No....not true at all. Our Founding Fathers turned away from the European concept of Divine Right and the State dictating what religion you had to follow. Remember, the English Monarch was ALSO head of the church. Our Founding Fathers based the foundation of this country on Greek (Pagan) Democracy, Roman (Pagan) Republican government, and the Enlightenment ideas of people like John Locke and Montesqueue.

You don't seem to understand the difference between simply believing in God and forcing people to hold a certain religion or preventing people from practising a certain religion. The Founding Fathers didn't want to incorporate a specific religion into government...that does not mean they didn't believe in God nor does it mean that they didn't use God or their beliefs in God when founding this country.

God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, In just about every state's Constitution, on every piece of United States currency, in the pledge of allegiance, in just about every major speech throughout the history of the US, including speeches and memoirs from the Founding Fathers themselves. To deny that the Founding Fathers didn't base this country on a belief in God is nonsense. There's a HUGE difference between them basing this country on a belief in God vs. them not forcing it or preventing it through various religions, through the first amendment.

Where is your god mentioned in the Declaration of Independence?

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions,"

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."


All references to God.

A God