U.S. Supreme court deals major blow to the ten commandments

[bodecea]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

guess you are part of the problem then. part of this Nations leftist zombies.

So...which of our laws specifically come from the 10 Commandments?

 

[bodecea]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

Take a look at the walls in Congress and SCOTUS...

You mean the walls that also have other law-givers and other codes of law up there too? Have you seen the murals of G. Washington and our Founders as Gods? Those are cool also.

 

[bodecea]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

Take a look at the walls in Congress and SCOTUS...

That would require the libs to be able to read? Not to many of those coming out of public education of late.

How about you clarify for us poor benighted souls then.....what's so special, so religious about those walls......besides G. Washington and the Founders being portrayed as GODS.

 

[bodecea]

Says who? Show in the Constitution where the ten commandments aren't supposed to be on public land?

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

 

[Auld Phart]

Says who? Show in the Constitution where the ten commandments aren't supposed to be on public land?

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Only since about 1947

 

[bodecea]

It in no way guarantees freedom from religion. Feel free to post the text.

It's trivial to do so, and it's already been done.

"no law respecting an establishment of religion"

"Respecting" in that context means "in regards to". No part of any government in the USA can make any sort of laws that are pro- or anti- any religion. They have to stay neutral on the subject. Posting the 10 commandments is definitely not being neutral.

Basic English. If conservatives would only learn it, along with basic logic and basic morality, they wouldn't constantly fail so hard with their whiny Constitutional, historical and moral revisionism. The funniest part is how they get so upset when you point out their revisionism.

It's obvious the founding fathers based the foundation of this country with a belief in God. The first amendment states that they can't force you or prevent you from following a religion. That's it. Doesn't say anything about the country not being founded on a belief in God though.

The pledge of allegiance and our currency all reference God. Should those be regarded as unconstitutional as well?

No....not true at all. Our Founding Fathers turned away from the European concept of Divine Right and the State dictating what religion you had to follow. Remember, the English Monarch was ALSO head of the church. Our Founding Fathers based the foundation of this country on Greek (Pagan) Democracy, Roman (Pagan) Republican government, and the Enlightenment ideas of people like John Locke and Montesqueue.

 

[ScienceRocks]

You conservatives don't even respect the ten commandments as you vote for people like trump that live to break them.

 

[Coyote]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

I would think an issue like this should be left up to the state...and maybe even the local governments to decide. If the people of that area want the Ten Commandments displayed, then they should be allowed to.

Separation of Church & State only goes so far in terms of the United States not having an "official religion" imo

If not, then what will they rule to be unconstitutional next? The pledge of allegiance? "One Nation Under God
.."? Our currency " In God We Trust".?

Etc.

The First Amendment ~ Freedom FROM religion, is not up for popular vote.

The first amendment doesn't state freedom FROM religion.

It states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Basically means Congress won't make a law forcing people to follow a certain religion nor will they make a law that prohibits people from following a certain religion.

How is displaying the Ten Commandments forcing people to follow a religion?

Putting specific religious law in public places like the courthouse is effectively endorsing a specific religion and implying religious law has a place in our courts.

Would you support a monument with elements of Islamic law inscribed?

Our courts are secular not sacred spaces. You are free in all other areas to promote your faith but keep it out of the courts.

 

[bodecea]

Says who? Show in the Constitution where the ten commandments aren't supposed to be on public land?

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Only since about 1947

So....what do you think will happen to religion when the State isn't separated from it?

 

[bodecea]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

You're fucking retarded, then.

Ok, what laws are exclusively based on the 10 Commandments?

 

[Auld Phart]

I didn't know we were built on the ten commandments?

I would think an issue like this should be left up to the state...and maybe even the local governments to decide. If the people of that area want the Ten Commandments displayed, then they should be allowed to.

Separation of Church & State only goes so far in terms of the United States not having an "official religion" imo

If not, then what will they rule to be unconstitutional next? The pledge of allegiance? "One Nation Under God
.."? Our currency " In God We Trust".?

Etc.

The First Amendment ~ Freedom FROM religion, is not up for popular vote.

The first amendment doesn't state freedom FROM religion.

It states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Basically means Congress won't make a law forcing people to follow a certain religion nor will they make a law that prohibits people from following a certain religion.

How is displaying the Ten Commandments forcing people to follow a religion?

Putting specific religious law in public places like the courthouse is effectively endorsing a specific religion and implying religious law has a place in our courts.

Would you support a monument with elements of Islamic law inscribed?

Our courts are secular not sacred spaces. You are free in all other areas to promote your faith but keep it out of the courts.

Putting specific religious law in public places like the courthouse is effectively endorsing a specific religion and implying religious law has a place in our courts.

then why hasn't the figure of Moses on the Supreme court building been modified.

How is it different than putting the 10 Commandments in a local courthouse?

 

[bodecea]

Meanwhile, the 10 commandments are etched in stone at the Supreme Court.

along with many other law codes and law givers......maybe they should be put up everywhere the 10 Commandments are. But I do have to ask this.......how many of our laws came exclusively from the 10 Commandments?

 

[bodecea]

just curious, but am I the only one that sees hypocrisy between when this was written: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." and the creation of the Establishment Clause?

the free exercise thereof has not been prohibited...

did they remove that, and other, monuments, end prayer in school, (except for Muslims), etc, or not?

are you actually claiming that the free exercise of your religion relies upon government sponsored monuments?

Some people are very very forgetful unless they have reminders in front of them continuously.

 

[The Derp]

You leftist assholes have no clue what you are doing as you strip this nation of everything we were built upon and as you retards of the ANTI American hate groups go around turning America into N. Korea you rejects won't realize what you've done until years later. That's how works assholes..............then we all pay for your stupidity even people from other Countries see and understand what is going on yet the very fkning assholes who live here can't see a thing. gawd you fkrs are so beyond idiots.

So in your world, unless there's a statue of the Ten Commandments in public, people won't abide by them on general principle?

 

[Ace Nova]

It in no way guarantees freedom from religion. Feel free to post the text.

It's trivial to do so, and it's already been done.

"no law respecting an establishment of religion"

"Respecting" in that context means "in regards to". No part of any government in the USA can make any sort of laws that are pro- or anti- any religion. They have to stay neutral on the subject. Posting the 10 commandments is definitely not being neutral.

Basic English. If conservatives would only learn it, along with basic logic and basic morality, they wouldn't constantly fail so hard with their whiny Constitutional, historical and moral revisionism. The funniest part is how they get so upset when you point out their revisionism.

It's obvious the founding fathers based the foundation of this country with a belief in God. The first amendment states that they can't force you or prevent you from following a religion. That's it. Doesn't say anything about the country not being founded on a belief in God though.

The pledge of allegiance and our currency all reference God. Should those be regarded as unconstitutional as well?

No....not true at all. Our Founding Fathers turned away from the European concept of Divine Right and the State dictating what religion you had to follow. Remember, the English Monarch was ALSO head of the church. Our Founding Fathers based the foundation of this country on Greek (Pagan) Democracy, Roman (Pagan) Republican government, and the Enlightenment ideas of people like John Locke and Montesqueue.

You don't seem to understand the difference between simply believing in God and forcing people to hold a certain religion or preventing people from practising a certain religion. The Founding Fathers didn't want to incorporate a specific religion into government...that does not mean they didn't believe in God nor does it mean that they didn't use God or their beliefs in God when founding this country.

God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, In just about every state's Constitution, on every piece of United States currency, in the pledge of allegiance, in just about every major speech throughout the history of the US, including speeches and memoirs from the Founding Fathers themselves. To deny that the Founding Fathers didn't base this country on a belief in God is nonsense. There's a HUGE difference between them basing this country on a belief in God vs. them not forcing it or preventing it through various religions, through the first amendment.

 

[The Derp]

You don't seem to understand the difference between simply believing in God and forcing people to hold a certain religion or preventing people from practising a certain religion. The Founding Fathers didn't want to incorporate a specific religion into government...that does not mean they didn't believe in God nor does it mean that they didn't use God or their beliefs in God when founding this country. God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, In just about every state's Constitution, on every piece of United States currency, in the pledge of allegiance, in just about every major speech throughout the history of the US, including speeches and memoirs from the Founding Fathers themselves. To deny that the Founding Fathers didn't base this country on a belief in God is nonsense. There's a HUGE difference between them basing this country on a belief in God vs. them not forcing it or preventing it through various religions, through the first amendment.

Why do you need a Christian God to teach you morality? Why not just use Aesop's fables, since those came long before the Bible was written?

 

[bodecea]

It in no way guarantees freedom from religion. Feel free to post the text.

It's trivial to do so, and it's already been done.

"no law respecting an establishment of religion"

"Respecting" in that context means "in regards to". No part of any government in the USA can make any sort of laws that are pro- or anti- any religion. They have to stay neutral on the subject. Posting the 10 commandments is definitely not being neutral.

Basic English. If conservatives would only learn it, along with basic logic and basic morality, they wouldn't constantly fail so hard with their whiny Constitutional, historical and moral revisionism. The funniest part is how they get so upset when you point out their revisionism.

It's obvious the founding fathers based the foundation of this country with a belief in God. The first amendment states that they can't force you or prevent you from following a religion. That's it. Doesn't say anything about the country not being founded on a belief in God though.

The pledge of allegiance and our currency all reference God. Should those be regarded as unconstitutional as well?

No....not true at all. Our Founding Fathers turned away from the European concept of Divine Right and the State dictating what religion you had to follow. Remember, the English Monarch was ALSO head of the church. Our Founding Fathers based the foundation of this country on Greek (Pagan) Democracy, Roman (Pagan) Republican government, and the Enlightenment ideas of people like John Locke and Montesqueue.

You don't seem to understand the difference between simply believing in God and forcing people to hold a certain religion or preventing people from practising a certain religion. The Founding Fathers didn't want to incorporate a specific religion into government...that does not mean they didn't believe in God nor does it mean that they didn't use God or their beliefs in God when founding this country.

God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, In just about every state's Constitution, on every piece of United States currency, in the pledge of allegiance, in just about every major speech throughout the history of the US, including speeches and memoirs from the Founding Fathers themselves. To deny that the Founding Fathers didn't base this country on a belief in God is nonsense. There's a HUGE difference between them basing this country on a belief in God vs. them not forcing it or preventing it through various religions, through the first amendment.

Where is your god mentioned in the Declaration of Independence?

 

[Auld Phart]

Says who? Show in the Constitution where the ten commandments aren't supposed to be on public land?

First Amendment, Barbie. Have one of the grown ups explain what the big words mean.

Oh, they have. Several times. But you children insist on your misinterpretation of Jefferson's response to some Baptists, and got a court to give it - quite illegally - Constitutional authority.

So....you don't believe there's a separation of church and state?

Only since about 1947

So....what do you think will happen to religion when the State isn't separated from it?

What happened in the years between the Bill of Rights and the Establishment clause?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

The ten commandments have their place in society but not on public land.

Where do you suggest they be placed...because if they can't be on public land, wouldn't this include churches since they are on public land?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[MindWars]

You leftist assholes have no clue what you are doing as you strip this nation of everything we were built upon and as you retards of the ANTI American hate groups go around turning America into N. Korea you rejects won't realize what you've done until years later. That's how works assholes..............then we all pay for your stupidity even people from other Countries see and understand what is going on yet the very fkning assholes who live here can't see a thing. gawd you fkrs are so beyond idiots.

So in your world, unless there's a statue of the Ten Commandments in public, people won't abide by them on general principle?

if you haven't noticed I must not be a hard core bible thumper now am I.

It's a symbol, just like the flag, just like the liberty bell, just like the artifacts from a civil war jesus christ no wonder this Country is in this mess.