Trump’s Moment of Truth. Will Mueller Flip Cohen?

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You know this type of lawless presidency isn’t normal don’t you. Even Richard Nixon would cringe and be appalled if he could see what’s happening.

The federal investigation into the president’s personal attorney changes the legal and political calculus for Trump, Mueller, and Cohen. “As things heat up, the next big thing will be a shift from things like ‘What was the Russian involvement in the campaign?’ to ‘Has the cover-up begun and where is it?’”

The dramatic F.B.I. raid executed Monday against Michael Cohen, the president’s personal attorney, marks a turning point in the Justice Department’s investigations into Donald Trump and his associates. As Trump noted Tuesday morning, in his own madcap way, attorney-client privilege is a cornerstone of the U.S. legal system. For federal agents to have searched Cohen’s apartment, office, and hotel room, prosecutors must have convinced a judge that a raid was necessary to obtain evidence of a crime that Cohen might have attempted to hide or destroy if he was issued a subpoena. The implications, for Cohen and for Trump, are potentially explosive. “I suppose you could say that it is Trump’s moment of truth,” Bob Bauer, the former Obama White House general counsel, told me. “It is the red line he always seemed to draw in his bitter complaints about the Mueller investigation—now here we are. Cohen would not be a subject or target that Trump would wish to have flipped against him.”

To those of you who are still unclear why and how the raid happened and it’s ramifications, this article is a nice summary.

“Trump’s Moment of Truth”: Will Mueller Flip Cohen? — Vanity Fair
 
I predict we'll still be hearing about 'Trump's Moment of Truth' for the next six years.
 
Trump’s Moment of Truth. Will Mueller Flip Cohen?
Probably not insofar as Cohen's case isn't part of Mueller's investigation.

It may be that the NY Southern District attorneys offer a plea deal that includes turning state's evidence in the Mueller investigation, but I don't know whether that's even a possible option that can be "put on the table," let alone whether it will or would be. If it were put on the table, so to speak, it'd not be Mueller who gets credit for "flipping" Cohen.
 
“I suppose you could say that it is Trump’s moment of truth,” Bob Bauer, the former Obama White House general counsel, told me. “It is the red line he always seemed to draw in his bitter complaints about the Mueller investigation—now here we are. Cohen would not be a subject or target that Trump would wish to have flipped against him.
AFAIK, Mueller hasn't interviewed Cohen.

I do know that Mueller referred the Cohen matter to the U.S. Atty's office of the Southern District of NY, That Mueller did so, suggests rather strongly that Cohen either (1) has no use for whatever information Mueller is aware of and that Cohen might have (have had) regarding the "Russia" investigation, or (2) already has what he needs/wants from Cohen, or (3) that Cohen simply hasn't got any evidence that Mueller can avail in his "Russia" investigation. Hell, it could even be a combination of those three things.

Insofar as at least one of the above three situations is surely so, it doesn't even make a whole lot of sense that Trump is "flipping out" the way he has been.
 
You know this type of lawless presidency isn’t normal don’t you. Even Richard Nixon would cringe and be appalled if he could see what’s happening.

The federal investigation into the president’s personal attorney changes the legal and political calculus for Trump, Mueller, and Cohen. “As things heat up, the next big thing will be a shift from things like ‘What was the Russian involvement in the campaign?’ to ‘Has the cover-up begun and where is it?’”

The dramatic F.B.I. raid executed Monday against Michael Cohen, the president’s personal attorney, marks a turning point in the Justice Department’s investigations into Donald Trump and his associates. As Trump noted Tuesday morning, in his own madcap way, attorney-client privilege is a cornerstone of the U.S. legal system. For federal agents to have searched Cohen’s apartment, office, and hotel room, prosecutors must have convinced a judge that a raid was necessary to obtain evidence of a crime that Cohen might have attempted to hide or destroy if he was issued a subpoena. The implications, for Cohen and for Trump, are potentially explosive. “I suppose you could say that it is Trump’s moment of truth,” Bob Bauer, the former Obama White House general counsel, told me. “It is the red line he always seemed to draw in his bitter complaints about the Mueller investigation—now here we are. Cohen would not be a subject or target that Trump would wish to have flipped against him.”

To those of you who are still unclear why and how the raid happened and it’s ramifications, this article is a nice summary.

“Trump’s Moment of Truth”: Will Mueller Flip Cohen? — Vanity Fair
Jesus H. Would ewe morons list the crimes committed and yer fucking evidence?
 
Unlikely. Cohen will stubbornly refuse to save himself. In his attempts to martyr himself for Trump, he will sing like a bird, too stupid to realize he's handing the cops everything they want to hear.
 
I predict we'll still be hearing about 'Trump's Moment of Truth' for the next six years.
I predict that it'll be interesting to learn how history teachers teach this moment in history to middle and high school students.....

I'd love to be a "fly on the wall" watching them and school boards wade their way through explaining to "Little Johnny" what porn stars and Playmates are and how the POTUS of the U.S. got himself entangled with at least one of each so as to bring scandal (perhaps more) upon himself.
 
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This has only begun...........One side attacks..............other side returns fire......

It's coming.
 
The Presidency is legitimate. The question is whether Constitutional law will sanction lawless conduct by federal agencies. We are in an era that will decide if propaganda by the media can sanction lawlessness by federal agencies in order to de-legitimize a lawfully elected President.
 
Unlikely. Cohen will stubbornly refuse to save himself. In his attempts to martyr himself for Trump, he will sing like a bird, too stupid to realize he's handing the cops everything they want to hear.
Cohen will stubbornly refuse to save himself.
Were I in Cohen's position -- being an attorney living a very pricey lifestyle, having accustomed my family to the same lavish lifestyle, having to support my family regardless of the lifestyle, and knowing that my ability to practice law may be revoked -- I damn sure wouldn't fall on my sword myself for Trump, especially when it's Trump's "sword" and my efforts to shield his dumbass form the consequences of his own stupidity, ignorance, wantonness and carelessness that got me into the mess into which I now find myself.

In his attempts to martyr himself for Trump, he will sing like a bird, too stupid to realize he's handing the cops everything they want to hear.
For whatever I think about Cohen, I doubt seriously he's that stupid. If he's doing that, he's well aware he's doing it.
 
The Presidency is legitimate. The question is whether Constitutional law will sanction lawless conduct by federal agencies. We are in an era that will decide if propaganda by the media can sanction lawlessness by federal agencies in order to de-legitimize a lawfully elected President.
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This has only begun...........One side attacks..............other side returns fire......

It's coming.
What are you snowflakes going to do, Sally?
Hit them with your purses?
Mueller has all the cards and the justice system on his side.
Trump has.... his tweets.
 
Unpossible, Cohen is a pitbull! No prosecutors have a chance against this streetfighting pitbull!
You’re kidding, right?
Mueller is now looking at every dirty thing Cohen has ever done. If Mueller has strong evidence, what’s Cohen going to do?
Bite the prosecutor’s ankles?
 
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Ya know who’s enjoying these raids, indictments guilty pleas and Trump tearing out his hair transplants?
If you think there will not be legal backlash........then you are an idiot..............Your time is coming................

Hell...........your side spent massive money and lost last election.........that is why she is sitting at home eating popcorn.........poor thing didn't win........

Even after the DNC paid for BS to get FISA warrants...
 

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