Trump: Germany ‘owes vast sums’ to NATO, US for defense

[L.K.Eder]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

Germany was the staging ground during the cold war. Germany would have been destroyed again. Now germany is the staging ground and regrouping and hospital ground for engagements in the middle east. How is this defending germany. Your invasion of iraq made germany safe, lol. Nigga please.

Geography is a bitch. We can just come back home and defend ourself here. Germany can defend itself there. Fair?

Deal. Ami go home.

 

[Tresha91203]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

 

[L.K.Eder]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Do it, quit yapping. Not one of you big mouths has even tried to present a cost benefit analysis of US presence in germany. You emotards just somehow feel that you get ripped off.

 

[shockedcanadian]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Do it, quit yapping. Not one of you big mouths has even tried to present a cost benefit analysis of US presence in germany. You emotards just somehow feel that you get ripped off.

You are ignorant to history. If not for the British and Americans, you would be speaking Russian today and still dancing the polka as they did in East Germany when everyone else was dancing to the Beatles.

Germany and the rest of NATO would have to pay more if American left, and without America any shortcomings would be felt, unlike now where so many countries just shrug their shoulders since they know America will always be there to cover the risks.

 

[L.K.Eder]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Do it, quit yapping. Not one of you big mouths has even tried to present a cost benefit analysis of US presence in germany. You emotards just somehow feel that you get ripped off.

You are ignorant to history. If not for the British and Americans, you would be speaking Russian today and still dancing the polka as they did in East Germany when everyone else was dancing to the Beatles.

Germany and the rest of NATO would have to pay more if American left, and without America any shortcomings would be felt, unlike now where so many countries just shrug their shoulders since they know America will always be there to cover the risks.

Still no support for the previous bold assertions, but back to bloviate some more, lol. Bring something to the table or fuck off, moron.

 

[theHawk]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

Germany was the staging ground during the cold war. Germany would have been destroyed again. Now germany is the staging ground and regrouping and hospital ground for engagements in the middle east. How is this defending germany. Your invasion of iraq made germany safe, lol. Nigga please.

Geography is a bitch. We can just come back home and defend ourself here. Germany can defend itself there. Fair?

Deal. Ami go home.

Your country is welcome to ask us to leave.

I'd much rather be stationed in Italy anyway.

 

[Onyx]

Well then since they are so bad ass they should have no problem paying for their own defense.

They do. The US offers no defense financing to any of those countries I listed.

Even though the pentagon spends 5% of GDP on defense, barely 2% (maybe less) of that is being used efficiently. The US is hardly meeting its own defense obligations to NATO.

On a side note do you ever pass up an opportunity to disparage our military and those in it?

When the US military is up to basic standards, then I'll consider it. At the moment the pentagon is lagging behind in almost every area besides raw manpower/equipment and a general several year lead in most military advancements (not great).

 

[shockedcanadian]

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Do it, quit yapping. Not one of you big mouths has even tried to present a cost benefit analysis of US presence in germany. You emotards just somehow feel that you get ripped off.

You are ignorant to history. If not for the British and Americans, you would be speaking Russian today and still dancing the polka as they did in East Germany when everyone else was dancing to the Beatles.

Germany and the rest of NATO would have to pay more if American left, and without America any shortcomings would be felt, unlike now where so many countries just shrug their shoulders since they know America will always be there to cover the risks.

Still no support for the previous bold assertions, but back to bloviate some more, lol. Bring something to the table or fuck off, moron.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Do it, quit yapping. Not one of you big mouths has even tried to present a cost benefit analysis of US presence in germany. You emotards just somehow feel that you get ripped off.

You are ignorant to history. If not for the British and Americans, you would be speaking Russian today and still dancing the polka as they did in East Germany when everyone else was dancing to the Beatles.

Germany and the rest of NATO would have to pay more if American left, and without America any shortcomings would be felt, unlike now where so many countries just shrug their shoulders since they know America will always be there to cover the risks.

Still no support for the previous bold assertions, but back to bloviate some more, lol. Bring something to the table or fuck off, moron.

I normally don't respond to personal attacks online, I find it cowardly and the reflection of one's personality which doesn't appeal to me. However, I make an exception in this case because like another forum I am a member of there appear to be some Germans who either don't know, or pretend to not know their own histories.

Here are a couple of books for you to read, I own both of them of many I have on history, policing and security in North America and the world. I recommend them for anyone want to learn about East Germany and what kind of nation you would have experienced had communism won:

Stasiland: Stories from Behind the Berlin Wall
Stasiland: Stories from Behind the Berlin Wall: Anna Funder: 9780062077325: Amazon.com: Books

You can read about how rock band members were jailed for playing "Western music" and other disturbing stories of violation into the personal live and pursuits of East Germans. As it were, I know some of this from personal experience as Canada's RCMP modelled it's police force after the Stasi, and it trickled down to other agencies. The Stasi, the biggest cowards in East Germany and Russian stooges and patsies. Those dirty, communist sob's and those who admire(d) them can kiss my ass. I despise these animals so much from all I have read of them, I wouldn't urinate on them if their foot was on fire.

The File: A Personal History
Amazon.com: The File: A Personal History (9780679777854): Timothy Garton Ash: Books

Read about Tom Gartons own research into his file when Germany opened up files for citizens to read about. More insight into the East German society which would have been all of Germans experiences if the Eastern Bloc nations had won the Cold War.


Merkel herself realizes how important NATO and America is to Germany's safety:

Merkel: Germany to heavily increase Bundeswehr budget
Merkel: Germany to heavily increase Bundeswehr budget | Germany | DW.COM | 16.10.2016

The chancellor says Germany will spend billions more than currently budgeted on its military. This comes in response to criticism from the United States that fellow NATO members don't contribute enough to mutual defense.

Oh, and the polka dance propaganda? It used to be on youtube, with English subtitles from the 1950's or 60s, an old German dance TV show, with some youthful looking dancers and an announcer standing on the sidelines tapping his foot and clapping while repeating how fantastic the dancing was. "Oh, look at the fantastic and beautiful moves"! It was promoted as the great music of the day...all state propaganda of course, they don't want anyone to get any crazy ideas such as listening to the Beatles or Rolling Stones, they might revolt!

All I can find now is from 1989 East Germany, not long before the wall came down. Some well coordinated dancers really getting down:


If you live in Germany, visit the DDR museum in Berlin and ask yourself, "how many Americans, British and Western loyal citizens died so I didn't have to live in a disturbing backwards society like they did?" You can also look at North Korea, the evolution of the East German state with full support from China. That is ultimately where you would have been headed.

You can say it now if you want "thank you America, thank you Britain". I say thank you to my American pals all the time, sometimes I am ridiculed in Canada for it while these same lemmings tune into CBC and take it as "honest, unbiased journalism". Meanwhile it is state run news like every socialist nations employs, with many covert CSIS and RCMP clowns on air trying to influence the Canadian public, the most popular target is always America.

Tune in to "Power and Politics" on CBC, especially on Fridays and you will get a glimpse of some of the agents at work. I won't go any further with that, but you might get the picture...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We pay on wednesday or thursday, or after you close landstuhl and ramstein. Good luck transporting and treating your wounded troops back home.

When Germany pays for its own defense, they won't be needed. We are quite capable of transporting and treating people. Perhaps Germany would fill Landstuhl and Ramstein with their own defense forces so as not to negatively affect their economy. Win for the US, win for Germany.

Defense is expensive. Germany would have to cut a lot of spending on other programs. The US would be able to spend more on services or reduce the debt. Each country would be carrying their own weight. How is that a bad thing? Germany complains about carrying other nations in their union but is insulted that the US complains about carrying them militarily? WTF?

"We are quite capable of transporting and treating people."

Geography is a bitch.

Hours count.

A review of the first 10 years of critical care aeromedical transport during operation iraqi freedom and operation enduring freedom: the importance... - PubMed - NCBI

LOL. Germany is not the only country in the region. Its not even the only country we have bases in. If Germany doesn't want us there, we can move. If no country in the region wants a US military presence there, we can bring our troops home like most Americans want anyway.

If we are not needed, we are thrilled to hear it. We will just contribute an equal amount of money and troops as other countries, not the lion's share. If we are shunned for not contributing more than everyone else, Americans are fine with coming home and saving American lives and money.

Don't Squeeze the Bear

NYETO should have been disbanded when the Warsaw Pact was. All it's done since then has been to aggressively try to strangle Russia and violate Putin's Monroe Doctrine. The gang's ignorantly self-righteous war against Serbia not only was partially directed against Russia, but it saved an Al Qaida outpost from getting demolished by the brave and prescient Serbs.

 

[Dschrute3]

I have to agree with him. Germany is the #1 economy in Europe, and one of the top economies in the world. It needs to contribute more. However, i'd be fine with scrapping NATO all-together. It's an incredibly expensive obsolete entity. Another Globalist Elite invention that needs to go away.