There Is No Way Obama Can Get Re-Elected

[R.D.]

No way he could get reelected??


Have you not met the liberals???

So he gets around 25-28% of the vote. You think a single independent is going to vote for him? Hardly.

Carville was absolutely dead right on one thing in his right, it was Clinton's campaign slogan (unofficial) back in 1992.

It's the economy, stupid.

And it still fucking is today.

Since Gore lost I don't think that is the driving force for most liberals today. He dummied down a nation

 

[peach174]

20%+ of Americans ARE racist, and 80%+ of racists are Republicans. Less than 1% of Pub convention delegates are minorities. Give it up.
Do nothing , block everything Pubs, badly split, are going to get theirs back in 2012- they got just enough in 2010 to show the CRAPPE they want for us...

Yeah right,
Two black Republicans were elected to positions never before held by any black representative. There are six new Latino Republicans in Congress (five in the House, one in the Senate), and nine new female Republicans (eight in the House, and one in the Senate).

 

[Jarhead]

I am a conservative.

And I'm a liberal

I believe all people are created equal and have the same rights that I do.

I Treat all people equal and I do not allow race to dictate any of my decisions as it pertains to people....I do not hire becuase he is black, I do not hire becuase he is white.

That is how a conservative thinks.

But conservatives need to recognize that the current situation for Whites and African Americans is based in large part on a long history of the relationship between the two. Blacks didn't wake up one day and decide that more of them would like to live poor in urban areas than whites. Those events transpired due to policies we created - policies that prevented blacks from accumulating wealth via housing and the traditional low-interest 30yr mortgage, for example, while whites moved into suburbia and took advantage of the government subsidies to suburban development and mortgages., Previous to that policies that prevented them from accumulating wealth, period.



That doesn't prevent policies from having a significant disparate impact.

The fact that YOU and others want to spin it that we are intentionally trying to take things from blacks simply shows us that you have yet to grasp an understanding of the true conservative ideology.

That's absurd - I never said that you were intentionally trying to take things from blacks. I said that some far-right extremists were - and that conservatives get lopped in with them at times.

I think I understand the conservative ideology just fine, thanks - and I never said it was racist.

So yes...it is crap.....it is made up shit coming from the mouths of people who find it easist to criticize different thinking people by calling the racists.

I didnt' call anyone racist - excepting the guy who posted the clearly racist screed (well and Rabbi - and that's because he has demonstrated he's racist with claims like "Black people can't lead")

you put credence in a thought process regarding republicans that is not accurate.

Me? I jump down the throat of those that say the democrats wnat to enslave Africdan Americans with a nanny state.

Whatever.....there are racist democrats and racist republicans...but neither party has earned the right to be associated with racists.

You feel it appropriatre to spew the crap as you did with your first post...so be it.

Like I said...I look to stop the crap...not ignite it.

Take care.

 

[Big Fitz]

No way he could get reelected??


Have you not met the liberals???

So he gets around 25-28% of the vote. You think a single independent is going to vote for him? Hardly.

Carville was absolutely dead right on one thing in his right, it was Clinton's campaign slogan (unofficial) back in 1992.

It's the economy, stupid.

And it still fucking is today.

Since Gore lost I don't think that is the driving force for most liberals today. He dummied down a nation

Dumb people vote immediate needs and blame the guy in office. Dumbing them down only works for the challenger. Since Nixon, this nation has always voted it's pocketbook.

Ford, had a meh economy, but he pardoned Nixon. Out.
Carter wrecked the economy. Out.
Reagan improved the job and inflation picture. Win.
HW Bush's economy suffered a short recession, Out.
Clinton had 2 terms of boom times, Win.
Gore lost because he was tied to the internet bubble. Lost to W.
W stabilized the economy after the 9/11 crash. Win.
Obama snuffed McCain who was shown to be in bed with the current crash. Win.

And the Nixon incident was the exception since Reconstruction.

 

[8537]

I am a conservative.

And I'm a liberal



But conservatives need to recognize that the current situation for Whites and African Americans is based in large part on a long history of the relationship between the two. Blacks didn't wake up one day and decide that more of them would like to live poor in urban areas than whites. Those events transpired due to policies we created - policies that prevented blacks from accumulating wealth via housing and the traditional low-interest 30yr mortgage, for example, while whites moved into suburbia and took advantage of the government subsidies to suburban development and mortgages., Previous to that policies that prevented them from accumulating wealth, period.



That doesn't prevent policies from having a significant disparate impact.



That's absurd - I never said that you were intentionally trying to take things from blacks. I said that some far-right extremists were - and that conservatives get lopped in with them at times.

I think I understand the conservative ideology just fine, thanks - and I never said it was racist.

So yes...it is crap.....it is made up shit coming from the mouths of people who find it easist to criticize different thinking people by calling the racists.

I didnt' call anyone racist - excepting the guy who posted the clearly racist screed (well and Rabbi - and that's because he has demonstrated he's racist with claims like "Black people can't lead")

you put credence in a thought process regarding republicans that is not accurate.

By pointing out that the far-right racist reactionaries make the party look bad?

You feel it appropriatre to spew the crap as you did with your first post.

Spew crap? Seriously - that kind of racism from the far-right, and the policy that it drives, is one of the things that keeps African Americans voting Dem.

 

[Full-Auto]

And I'm a liberal



But conservatives need to recognize that the current situation for Whites and African Americans is based in large part on a long history of the relationship between the two. Blacks didn't wake up one day and decide that more of them would like to live poor in urban areas than whites. Those events transpired due to policies we created - policies that prevented blacks from accumulating wealth via housing and the traditional low-interest 30yr mortgage, for example, while whites moved into suburbia and took advantage of the government subsidies to suburban development and mortgages., Previous to that policies that prevented them from accumulating wealth, period.



That doesn't prevent policies from having a significant disparate impact.



That's absurd - I never said that you were intentionally trying to take things from blacks. I said that some far-right extremists were - and that conservatives get lopped in with them at times.

I think I understand the conservative ideology just fine, thanks - and I never said it was racist.



I didnt' call anyone racist - excepting the guy who posted the clearly racist screed (well and Rabbi - and that's because he has demonstrated he's racist with claims like "Black people can't lead")

By pointing out that the far-right racist reactionaries make the party look bad?

You feel it appropriatre to spew the crap as you did with your first post.

Spew crap? Seriously - that kind of racism from the far-right, and the policy that it drives, is one of the things that keeps African Americans voting Dem.

I disagree, its the free handouts they feel entitled to from over a hundred years ago. Couple that with cheating on their tests, lowering standards for entrance and promotions.

You guys will never get it.

 

[Full-Auto]

Actually you guys do get it. Thats why you do it.

 

[peach174]

and i'm a liberal



but conservatives need to recognize that the current situation for whites and african americans is based in large part on a long history of the relationship between the two. Blacks didn't wake up one day and decide that more of them would like to live poor in urban areas than whites. Those events transpired due to policies we created - policies that prevented blacks from accumulating wealth via housing and the traditional low-interest 30yr mortgage, for example, while whites moved into suburbia and took advantage of the government subsidies to suburban development and mortgages., previous to that policies that prevented them from accumulating wealth, period.



That doesn't prevent policies from having a significant disparate impact.



That's absurd - i never said that you were intentionally trying to take things from blacks. I said that some far-right extremists were - and that conservatives get lopped in with them at times.

I think i understand the conservative ideology just fine, thanks - and i never said it was racist.



I didnt' call anyone racist - excepting the guy who posted the clearly racist screed (well and rabbi - and that's because he has demonstrated he's racist with claims like "black people can't lead")

by pointing out that the far-right racist reactionaries make the party look bad?

you feel it appropriatre to spew the crap as you did with your first post.

spew crap? Seriously - that kind of racism from the far-right, and the policy that it drives, is one of the things that keeps african americans voting dem.

What keep African Americans voting for Dems is the government checks to them and the free goodies.

 

[Jarhead]

And I'm a liberal



But conservatives need to recognize that the current situation for Whites and African Americans is based in large part on a long history of the relationship between the two. Blacks didn't wake up one day and decide that more of them would like to live poor in urban areas than whites. Those events transpired due to policies we created - policies that prevented blacks from accumulating wealth via housing and the traditional low-interest 30yr mortgage, for example, while whites moved into suburbia and took advantage of the government subsidies to suburban development and mortgages., Previous to that policies that prevented them from accumulating wealth, period.



That doesn't prevent policies from having a significant disparate impact.



That's absurd - I never said that you were intentionally trying to take things from blacks. I said that some far-right extremists were - and that conservatives get lopped in with them at times.

I think I understand the conservative ideology just fine, thanks - and I never said it was racist.



I didnt' call anyone racist - excepting the guy who posted the clearly racist screed (well and Rabbi - and that's because he has demonstrated he's racist with claims like "Black people can't lead")

By pointing out that the far-right racist reactionaries make the party look bad?

You feel it appropriatre to spew the crap as you did with your first post.

Spew crap? Seriously - that kind of racism from the far-right, and the policy that it drives, is one of the things that keeps African Americans voting Dem.

Wrong.

It is people like you taking the far right ideology and spewing the crap that such idelology stems from racism that keeps them voting democratic.

It does not stem from racism. It may not be in the best interest of African Americans...but it does NOT STEMN FROM RACISM.

It stems from the conservative ideology that all men and women are equal and are to be treated equal....and no man or woman should be tempoted by the steate to live off the state.

Right or wrong is another debate....BUT IT DOES NOT STEM FROM RACISM.

 

[Jarhead]

by pointing out that the far-right racist reactionaries make the party look bad?



spew crap? Seriously - that kind of racism from the far-right, and the policy that it drives, is one of the things that keeps african americans voting dem.

What keep African Americans voting for Dems is the government checks to them and the free goodies.

WRONG...and that is an insulting thing to say.

That keeps MANY OF THE POOR OF ALL RACES VOTING DEMOCRATIC....and do you blame them?

It has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE.

 

[shintao]

You have the time to refute each and every point. Instead you choose to post an idiotgram. An ad hominem without substance or thought isn't worth the bits used to post it.

I can see a couple I can refute.

Healthcare Reform. No reform. Those that have will get hosed to pay for all. I always enjoy paying for other people. NOT.

Save Wall Street? That must be why the market is in the toilet. Turn on the TV

Drastically slowed downt the recession?? Watch the news there kid. They now fear a double dip.

Stimulus package created jobs?? Where?? Sure ain't here. Thats why UE is at 9.2%

The Russians think we're a joke. Ask em.

Improved relations with Iran?? Boy are you dreaming. I'm sure thats news to Akmawhatshisname and the Mullahs that run Iran.

You can go right down the list and refute just about all of em.

I will give him kudo's for having the balls to order the hit on UBL though.

Take your head outta your ass. This guy is a disaster. He sucks as POTUS.

Refute? Shit. I'd like to see proof that some of those "accomplishments" actually exist! "Saved Wall Street"??? Let's see some numbers and documented proof on that shit. With today's 400 point dive wiping out all gains for this year, I doubt very highly he saved jack shit.

Global stock sell-off accelerates - FT.com

Or is it Bush's fault still?

It is definately Bush's fault and the majority of America believes that to be a FACT!!!

I really am surprised you are so ignorant about Obama accomplishments. Maybe if you look them up you won't be such a dumbass and look like you just fell off the turnip wagon from the con-village of imbeciles. You really make yourself out to be a complete fool.

 

[8537]

Wrong.

It is people like you taking the far right ideology and spewing the crap that such idelology stems from racism that keeps them voting democratic.

Some of the far-right reactionary ideology DOES stem from racism, Jarhead. That's not exactly a point open for debate. We can claim that no true scotsman would be racist, but the fact is that some are.

It stems from the conservative ideology that all men and women are equal and are to be treated equal....and no man or woman should be tempoted by the steate to live off the state.

Right or wrong is another debate....BUT IT DOES NOT STEM FROM RACISM.

So did federal housing policy that blocked African Americans from the wealth-building effect of the subsidized 30-yr suburban mortgage stem from racism?

 

[Zona]

End result, I GUARANTEE YOU OBAMA WILL WIN IN 2012. It eats at the right so much its funny to me.

AGAIN, OBAMA WILL WIN AGAIN IN 2012! Please come back and visit this thread after the election and I will smash it in your face, over and over. I will act like a child and say things like neener neener, I told you so. Then I will smile and thank god McCain didnt win in 2008 and that fucking nut Ron Paul or any other weak candidate you have in 2012.

God bless America and God bless the next president of the United States....Mr. Obama.

 

[Too Tall]

Only complete fucking intellectual IDIOTS and MORONS would vote for this little lop eared, purple lipped, pimp strut, community organizer, ZERO experience, radical, NWO, George Soros puppet, racist, muslim, socialist, marxist, black theologist, spread the wealth around, business hating, anti American piece of SHIT again.

One of these days you are going to say what you mean without beating around the bush! LMFAO.

 

[Big Fitz]

I can see a couple I can refute.

Healthcare Reform. No reform. Those that have will get hosed to pay for all. I always enjoy paying for other people. NOT.

Save Wall Street? That must be why the market is in the toilet. Turn on the TV

Drastically slowed downt the recession?? Watch the news there kid. They now fear a double dip.

Stimulus package created jobs?? Where?? Sure ain't here. Thats why UE is at 9.2%

The Russians think we're a joke. Ask em.

Improved relations with Iran?? Boy are you dreaming. I'm sure thats news to Akmawhatshisname and the Mullahs that run Iran.

You can go right down the list and refute just about all of em.

I will give him kudo's for having the balls to order the hit on UBL though.

Take your head outta your ass. This guy is a disaster. He sucks as POTUS.

Refute? Shit. I'd like to see proof that some of those "accomplishments" actually exist! "Saved Wall Street"??? Let's see some numbers and documented proof on that shit. With today's 400 point dive wiping out all gains for this year, I doubt very highly he saved jack shit.

Global stock sell-off accelerates - FT.com

Or is it Bush's fault still?

It is definately Bush's fault and the majority of America believes that to be a FACT!!!

I really am surprised you are so ignorant about Obama accomplishments. Maybe if you look them up you won't be such a dumbass and look like you just fell off the turnip wagon from the con-village of imbeciles. You really make yourself out to be a complete fool.

Still Bush's fault.

Yeah, Shit toe... this is why I rarely read your posts. No contact with reality.

 

[percysunshine]

If I can convince enough of the right people to loan me money...even I could get elected.

PERCY FOR PRESIDENT!

(do I have to pay it back?)

 

[Jarhead]

Wrong.

It is people like you taking the far right ideology and spewing the crap that such idelology stems from racism that keeps them voting democratic.

Some of the far-right reactionary ideology DOES stem from racism, Jarhead. That's not exactly a point open for debate. We can claim that no true scotsman would be racist, but the fact is that some are.

Jeez...what a freaking reach. Of course there are very far right radicals that are racists...such as the skin heads. So now it is OK to say that far right ideology stems from racism becuase a faction of the far right are racists?

Look...you are hell bent on being right here...that is quite obvious....so I will concede.
There is nothing wrong with African Americans being led to believe that conservative ideology stems from racism...becuase...afterall.....skin heads are of the far right...and the far right are conservaitve.....so if A equals B and B equals C then A must equal C.

It stems from the conservative ideology that all men and women are equal and are to be treated equal....and no man or woman should be tempoted by the steate to live off the state.

Right or wrong is another debate....BUT IT DOES NOT STEM FROM RACISM.

So did federal housing policy that blocked African Americans from the wealth-building effect of the subsidized 30-yr suburban mortgage stem from racism?

OK...I will dare to be ignorant......what policy...when was it enacted...and what did it say?

Not much more to be said.
You are who you are and you believe what you beleive...

And if you think it is OK for African Americans to believe that the GOP policies are a product of racism, then continue to spew the crap like you did in your first post.

Not my style....not who I am.

 

[Stephanie]

How in the world is Barack Obama going to get re-elected as President? The economy was in shambles when he came into office, and its still in shambles. That is not change that we can believe in, surely. Of course, it is certainly not all Obama's fault. The economy is still suffering a hangover from the financial crisis, when the problems in the system were never addressed, merely papered over. America is becoming an economic disaster zone, the exact outcome that Obama told us he would avert. It was all about jobs, and getting people back to work, the economy on track etc... What a bunch of crap.


Source: Benzinga

Why wouldn't President Obama be reelected? Bachmann, Romney, Perry, Huckabee, Palin, Palenty, Huntsman, Gingrich, Paul, Santorum, Cain, McCotter (who?), Roemner, Bolton and Daniels are all very good reasons to vote for President Obama.

Most of these wannabees have a thing or two in common, and that one thing is not an idea, a vision or a plan. It is an ambition to be "The Man" or "The Woman" and the willingness to arrouse the emotions, passions and prejudices of the voters to earn the power and popoularity necessary to get the GOP nomination. They are for the most part empty suits (pants or vested).

GOPers have no idea who they want to be their nominee, most pick none of the above in polls. And even some of thsoe named don't seem to want the nomination, they like Trump are simply promoting themselves - or their underlings are - for greater name recognition and some face time in the national media.

LOL, a VISION. my gawd.
The people have seen the Obama's visions and they didn't buy it in November, and I truly BELIEVE they will finish off his visions in 2012...
As for Republican candidates, the people will decide if they have what it takes...Not judge them on what YOU THINK of them.

 

[Liability]

End result, I GUARANTEE YOU OBAMA WILL WIN IN 2012. It eats at the right so much its funny to me.

AGAIN, OBAMA WILL WIN AGAIN IN 2012! Please come back and visit this thread after the election and I will smash it in your face, over and over. I will act like a child and say things like neener neener, I told you so. Then I will smile and thank god McCain didnt win in 2008 and that fucking nut Ron Paul or any other weak candidate you have in 2012.

God bless America and God bless the next president of the United States....Mr. Obama.

Your guarantee is worthless, though.

He will not get re-elected.

In point of fact, autoZona, if the dopes in the DNC had a speck of actual sense, they'd get busy mounting a primary challenge to the President NOW via some electable Democratic.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

End result, I GUARANTEE YOU OBAMA WILL WIN IN 2012. It eats at the right so much its funny to me.

AGAIN, OBAMA WILL WIN AGAIN IN 2012! Please come back and visit this thread after the election and I will smash it in your face, over and over. I will act like a child and say things like neener neener, I told you so. Then I will smile and thank god McCain didnt win in 2008 and that fucking nut Ron Paul or any other weak candidate you have in 2012.

God bless America and God bless the next president of the United States....Mr. Obama.

Ok... based on what? His economic record? Iraq? Afghanistan? Foreign policy? The national debt? Weak dollar? Deficits? Obamacare? DADT?

What exactly do you think it is that voters will look at and say "yeah, I could go for four more years of this?" I mean normal voters... we know there are some on the left that would applaud if he mounted Drone attacks against Quebec... Not them, they don't count.