The "Virtuous" New Nazis.

[Dogmaphobe]

Your type are ten a penny.

I disagree. You haven't taken into account the incredible inflation over the last 30 years.

I think the correct figure is now a thousand a penny.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have ACTUALLY indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

 

[Penelope]

John Bolton bullshit, figures. Israel is an apartheid state, economic sanctions worked on South Africa. That’s all this is about, american control of the middle east is still the neocon goal.

Well, that's one virtuous new leftist Nazi checking in.

Should we keep count?

It'll be the same old....

Yawn.

Your OP insured it, it is indeed the same old yawn.

Enforced by types like you.

It's your thread love, you did this.

Where are you from?

 

[Penelope]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

 

[Bleipriester]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

[

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

Arabs have 22 states encompassing 12.9 million square Kilometers including Jordan, the original Palestinian State. There are only a few thousand Jews left.

Israel is a mere 20 thousand square Kilometers and contains approximately 1.7 million Arabs.

You are very stupid, very dishonest, and very racist and so ignore facts in favor of your relentless persecution.

 

[Penelope]

[

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

Arabs have 22 states encompassing 12.9 million square Kilometers including Jordan, the original Palestinian State. There are only a few thousand Jews left.

Israel is a mere 20 thousand square Kilometers and contains approximately 1.7 million Arabs.

You are very stupid, very dishonest, and very racist and so ignore facts in favor of your relentless persecution.

I am only talking about Israel. The other arab state are not Israel. The jews have no right to Israel. Rome got it from the Greeks and the Greeks captured it from the Persians who captured it from the Babylonians. What right the original Canaanites had on it died out long long ago, besides they were Arab as well.

 

[Coyote]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

The Nazi movement is certainly gaining steam across Europe, though fueled far less by hatred of Jews as you suggest than by hatred of Muslims fleeing wars the West started in their home countries.

I agree.

I think it's fueled by a melting pot of scapegoats. Boycotting commodities produced in the Occupied Territories seems in my opinion a legitimate action to try to force a resolution of the IP situation much like boycotts did with South Africa. But there are hidden dangers there that ought to be examined.

How many of those supporting the movements truly care about the Palestinians? How many of them are opposing Israel's policies, and how many of them are simply finding a way of legitimizing the scapegoating of Jews - all Jews?

I'm seeing a lot of things that are very concerning: the rise, around Europe (and America) of far right nationalistic politics that are based, in part, on the politics of exclusion - anti-immigrant for example. Those are often the same groups that scapegoat Jews. They are legitimizing themselves on the issues of immigration and Islam where they have gained widespread support, because it's not "socially acceptable" to outwardly hate Jews the way it is Muslims but I think it's there, and can be seen in the propogation of conspiracy theories.

There are disturbing "groupings" - anti-semitism with some if the far right, anti-semitism painted as "anti-Israel" from some of the far left, and anti-semitism from some Muslim immigrants. But it's dishonest to label all opposition to Israel as anti-semitism.

Instead of the politics of seperation and division, there needs to be a move towards interfaith action in order to overcome this trend. It's been heading towards a dangerous repetition of history and the politics and rhetoric are the same, even if the targeted scapegoats now include others.

Why do you see the only way forward to be stealing Israeli land and giving it to illegalimmigrants, is this because that is how you ended up owning America ?

Why should the Jews ALWAYS be the ones to give up what is theirs under international law, and why do those who deny they are anti semitic deny the Jews their rights

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

Here you go again with the islamonazi propaganda lies that arab muslims have historic ties to Israel. They invaded illegally after 1917 and flooded the country with muslims to gain superior numbers. They then had an international law enacted that made it illegal for Jews to live in any arab muslim nation.

What rights do illegal immigrants, terrorists and criminals have ?

Only if you make it so by ignoring historical facts and international law. Why did the UN have to create UNWRA to support the arab muslims who fled the fighting in palestine, after all the law was they became full citizens after living there for just 2 years. Work it out and see why this was so, and when you allow one small piece of truth to seep through the rest follows and you see how you have been made a fool of all these years

More propaganda.

 

[Coyote]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have ACTUALLY indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are against it.

Not sure such retarded rhetoric deserves a serious response, but here goes.

I don't support ethnic cleansing - not of Palestinians, not of Jews. It's a pretty simple concept.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

And? That has what to do with the people currently living in Israel and the Occupied Territories?

Has anyone supported the forced explulsion of Jews from Arab countries?

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

I'm curious - are you saying you support forced expulsions then?

I don't.

 

[Coyote]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

 

[Penelope]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

 

[Coyote]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

Something about Europe, glass houses, land grabbing and racism comes to mind here and it's nothing to do with the Nazi's. In fact, it's Europe's "land grabbing" division of the Ottoman Empire that led to some of the mess we are in now in the ME.

 

[Coyote]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

Genocide is a very specific and powerful term that is overused. Would you then call the Palestinian attacks on Israeli Jewish civilians "genocide"?

 

[Mindful]

This is the crux of the matter.

What this topic is about.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This is the crux of the matter.

What this topic is about.

and it has acted like a roll call for some of the forum's virtuous new Nazis.

 

[jillian]

[

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

Arabs have 22 states encompassing 12.9 million square Kilometers including Jordan, the original Palestinian State. There are only a few thousand Jews left.

Israel is a mere 20 thousand square Kilometers and contains approximately 1.7 million Arabs.

You are very stupid, very dishonest, and very racist and so ignore facts in favor of your relentless persecution.

I am only talking about Israel. The other arab state are not Israel. The jews have no right to Israel. Rome got it from the Greeks and the Greeks captured it from the Persians who captured it from the Babylonians. What right the original Canaanites had on it died out long long ago, besides they were Arab as well.

the jews have every right to israel.

thanks for spewing the palestinian terrorist line.

the reality is that the mandate was divided by the british. they had that right...same as when the created the UAE.

the pals started a war... they lost. and they kept waging war and kept losing. that's life.

tell ya what... i want my great grandfather's land in belarus....i have as much right to that as the so-called pals have to israel.

 

[Tilly]

In Europe, most anti Semites come from the Left, including all those that pretend they are simply anti zionists.

 

[irosie91]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

The Nazi movement is certainly gaining steam across Europe, though fueled far less by hatred of Jews as you suggest than by hatred of Muslims fleeing wars the West started in their home countries.

huh? can you expand on that delusion?

Are you suggesting the neo-Nazis in Europe are actually okay with Muslim refugees? Are you suggesting that the West has nothing to do with the Middle East?

lots of people have problems with the influx of refugees from the Middle East wherever they are INFLUXING-------NO LARGE AND PROMINENT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD -----has "nothing to do with the middle east" As to the present situation in Syria-----the USA did not MAKE IT HAPPEN----not by a long shot

 

[irosie91]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

so? Until recently I lived in a large city---in a part of town that used to be 80% Polish------then it became more like 80% Hispanic------its called demographic shift. The city of Medina Saudi arabia was----at one time---MOSLY JEWISH---now jews cannot set foot on that land. I grew up in a town in an important suburban area of a very large city-----it was 100% white back then because it was run by white trash like you.
Now it has a significant black population

 

[Coyote]

In Europe, most anti Semites come from the Left, including all those that pretend they are simply anti zionists.

Or maybe not. Rightwing parties pretending to be against antisemitism for political expediency even though their members harbor a lot of antisemitic feelings. As the expession goes - you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

Cleaning Up Real Nice

http://forward.com/opinion/343604/after-brexit-europes-right-wing-will-try-to-woo-jews-resist/