The "Virtuous" New Nazis.

[Dogmaphobe]

The topic being: the demonising of the Jews, and the justifications for it, now, and during 1930's Germany. It's also been referred to in literature, time and time again.

"Jews, go back to Palestine!"

"Jews, get out of Palestine!"

Is that an oxymoron,or what?

The nature of antisemitism has shifted since Israel was established. Virtuous Nazis like Coyote and countless other illiberal leftists here can now focus their hatred on the state that represents the aspirations of the Jewish people instead of Jews individually. Instead of small groups of Jews acting as a target living within a nation state, the State of Israel now exists as a small nation state living within the greater community of nations. It's the same old target, but under a different guise.

Those who refuse to admit that antisemitism is now primarily a leftist illness are either too ignorant, too stupid or too dishonest to notice what is as plain a day. Arab propaganda has been specially tailored to appeal to leftists, thus all the talk about apartheid and whathaveyou, and the entire creation of a brand new people called "Palestinian" was geared towards that end. It was simply the way to frame the conflict, not between Arabs and Jews, but between Jews and this mythical new subset of Arabs created specifically for the purpose of deceiving low functioning leftists into joining their persecution. By joining the persecution of Jews, all these leftists see themselves as protecting the underdog, even as they add their support to the great majority, instead. That is where the sense of virtue comes in, however, as they have fallen prey to all the propaganda geared towards deceiving them as they carry the Arab torch for the destruction of the tiny Jewish state because of the invention of this new group.

 

[Bleipriester]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

So who is trying to increase their 78% of palestine to 100% of palestine then. You muslims forget that Jordan was palestine and that you received 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire as muslim lands. The other 1% went to the Christians in Lebanon and the Jews in Israel. All the land stolen has been done by islamonazi terrorists, who also happen to be the racists. Just read the 3 charter in existence that all say a Jew free M.E.

I am not a Muslim and I received no land.

 

[Mindful]

The topic being: the demonising of the Jews, and the justifications for it, now, and during 1930's Germany. It's also been referred to in literature, time and time again.

"Jews, go back to Palestine!"

"Jews, get out of Palestine!"

Is that an oxymoron,or what?

The nature of antisemitism has shifted since Israel was established. Virtuous Nazis like Coyote and countless other illiberal leftists here can now focus their hatred on the state that represents the aspirations of the Jewish people instead of Jews individually. Instead of small groups of Jews acting as a target living within a nation state, the State of Israel now exists as a small nation state living within the greater community of nations. It's the same old target, but under a different guise.

Those who refuse to admit that antisemitism is now primarily a leftist illness are either too ignorant, too stupid or too dishonest to notice what is as plain a day. Arab propaganda has been specially tailored to appeal to leftists, thus all the talk about apartheid and whathaveyou, and the entire creation of a brand new people called "Palestinian" was geared towards that end. It was simply the way to frame the conflict, not between Arabs and Jews, but between Jews and this mythical new subset of Arabs created specifically for the purpose of deceiving low functioning leftists into joining their persecution. By joining the persecution of Jews, all these leftists see themselves as protecting the underdog, even as they add their support to the great majority, instead. That is where the sense of virtue comes in, however, as they have fallen prey to all the propaganda geared towards deceiving them as they carry the Arab torch for the destruction of the tiny Jewish state because of the invention of this new group.

Trying to trace back the origins of it.

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

So who is trying to increase their 78% of palestine to 100% of palestine then. You muslims forget that Jordan was palestine and that you received 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire as muslim lands. The other 1% went to the Christians in Lebanon and the Jews in Israel. All the land stolen has been done by islamonazi terrorists, who also happen to be the racists. Just read the 3 charter in existence that all say a Jew free M.E.

I am not a Muslim and I received no land.

This topic is not about Muslims.

 

[Phoenall]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

So who is trying to increase their 78% of palestine to 100% of palestine then. You muslims forget that Jordan was palestine and that you received 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire as muslim lands. The other 1% went to the Christians in Lebanon and the Jews in Israel. All the land stolen has been done by islamonazi terrorists, who also happen to be the racists. Just read the 3 charter in existence that all say a Jew free M.E.

I am not a Muslim and I received no land.

You are an islamonazi propagandist and dont deserve anything for your RACE HATE

 

[irosie91]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

Big nonsense. It is a simple fact that Europe is not as good in kissing Israel´s ass as the US is. The EU is aware of Israel´s wrongdoing. Banning Israel´s goods, labeling settler goods, is the consequence of Israel´s persistent land grabbing and racism - something they have in common with the Nazis.

So who is trying to increase their 78% of palestine to 100% of palestine then. You muslims forget that Jordan was palestine and that you received 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire as muslim lands. The other 1% went to the Christians in Lebanon and the Jews in Israel. All the land stolen has been done by islamonazi terrorists, who also happen to be the racists. Just read the 3 charter in existence that all say a Jew free M.E.

I am not a Muslim and I received no land.

you support the stink and filth of BAATHISM----which is Arabism -------including the virulent Imperialism of that vile creed and the totalitarianism of its real founders----muhummad and his barbaric minions. While purportedly founded by a somewhat innocuous Michel Aflaq----like the innocuous economic theory of communism of Karl Mark which MORPHED into the virulent communism of STALIN----and the theories of survival genetics of Charles Darwin which became perverted into the Nazi ideology of MASTER RACE, baathism is the monstrous Utopian Totalitarian shit which has so far galvanized the murder of millions in the Middle east. Baathism and ISIS is nothing more or less than two sides
of the same coin. It is muhummad's caliphism

 

[irosie91]

For the record----Baathism is entirely CONSISTENT with
Islamism which is entirely consistent with Nazism ----both
ideologically and historically

 

[Mindful]

For the record----Baathism is entirely CONSISTENT with
Islamism which is entirely consistent with Nazism ----both
ideologically and historically

I think Saddam Hussein was a Ba'athist?


Would go some way to explaining why he paid $30,000 per Palestinian family for one of its members to blow him or herself up in a suicide bombing, within Israel.

 

[irosie91]

For the record----Baathism is entirely CONSISTENT with
Islamism which is entirely consistent with Nazism ----both
ideologically and historically

I think Saddam Hussein was a Ba'athist?


Would go some way to explaining why he paid $30,000 per Palestinian family for one of its members to blow him or herself up in a suicide bombing, within Israel.

Saddam Hussein was an ARDENT BAATHIST------one of the
INNER CIRCLE Baathists------a worshipful follower of Gamal Nasser ---king of the UAR (united arab republic) It seems to me that Saddam was more PERSONALLY ambitious than
was Nasser------Nasser was really into the basic concept of
Baathism which can best be described as ARAB SUPREMACY (in the same manner as ARYAN SUPREMACY) Nasser was only mildly barbaric as
compared to Saddam who was extremely barbaric.

 

[Jroc]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have ACTUALLY indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are against it.

Not sure such retarded rhetoric deserves a serious response, but here goes.

I don't support ethnic cleansing - not of Palestinians, not of Jews. It's a pretty simple concept.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

And? That has what to do with the people currently living in Israel and the Occupied Territories?

Has anyone supported the forced explulsion of Jews from Arab countries?

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

I'm curious - are you saying you support forced expulsions then?

I don't.

Jews take in their people. The Arabs set up refugee camps, and use those people in their mission to destroy Israel.

 

[Penelope]

The way forward is to recognize that that land belongs to two peoples who have historic ties there and the resolution is NOT ethnically cleansing either one.

Why do you want to deny anyone's rights?

It's a complex long standing dispute - not a simplistic one.

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

Genocide is a very specific and powerful term that is overused. Would you then call the Palestinian attacks on Israeli Jewish civilians "genocide"?

I call it protecting their people and land.

Do only jews have a right to protect their people and land, sure sounds like it. Not Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.

 

[irosie91]

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

Genocide is a very specific and powerful term that is overused. Would you then call the Palestinian attacks on Israeli Jewish civilians "genocide"?

I call it protecting their people and land.

Do only jews have a right to protect their people and land, sure sounds like it. Not Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.

you call public declarations calling for the ANNHILATION of a neighboring country and its people ----- "self protection of country and people"?? You call tying bombs to the asses of
young women and nudging them towards babies----"self protection of country and people"? You call secreting knives
in ones clothing and stabbing vulnerable people to death in
the streets "self protection of country and people"?.

 

[Mindful]

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

Genocide is a very specific and powerful term that is overused. Would you then call the Palestinian attacks on Israeli Jewish civilians "genocide"?

I call it protecting their people and land.

Do only jews have a right to protect their people and land, sure sounds like it. Not Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.

you call public declarations calling for the ANNHILATION of a neighboring country and its people ----- "self protection of country and people"?? You call tying bombs to the asses of
young women and nudging them towards babies----"self protection of country and people"? You call secreting knives
in ones clothing and stabbing vulnerable people to death in
the streets "self protection of country and people"?.

You'll be getting the justifications next, like the 1930's Nazis.

Nothing has changed, and nothing has been solved, with regard to European anti semitism.

 

[Coyote]

So THAT'S why you support those who have actually indulged in ethnic cleansing -- it's because you are actually against it.

There were once a million Jews living in Arab lands. Today, there are just a few thousand. Meanwhile, the Arab population in Israel continues to grow faster than that of the Jewish.

When the original Mandate of Palestine was divided, Arabs were given over 78%. Not content with that, you antisemites want Arabs to have even more.

And what do they have now? Oh and what use to be 80% arabs is now 20% from the slow genocide.

There's no genocide going on.

Well I believe there, is slowly and daily, a few killed here and there. Land stole and more illegal settlements.
Not all genocides happen at one, its the daily killing of several which is a daily occurrence.

Genocide is a very specific and powerful term that is overused. Would you then call the Palestinian attacks on Israeli Jewish civilians "genocide"?

I call it protecting their people and land.

Do only jews have a right to protect their people and land, sure sounds like it. Not Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.

How do you justify killing children? Do you realize Jews have also been there from the beginning?

 

[Eloy]

Is this what Jews call "The New Antisemitism"?
Anti-Zionism is the new anti-Semitism, says Britain's former chief rabbi

 

[irosie91]

Is this what Jews call "The New Antisemitism"?
Anti-Zionism is the new anti-Semitism, says Britain's former chief rabbi

what is "this" in your question? Programs aimed at destroying Israel?

 

[Coyote]

The topic being: the demonising of the Jews, and the justifications for it, now, and during 1930's Germany. It's also been referred to in literature, time and time again.

"Jews, go back to Palestine!"

"Jews, get out of Palestine!"

Is that an oxymoron,or what?

The nature of antisemitism has shifted since Israel was established. Virtuous Nazis like Coyote and countless other illiberal leftists here can now focus their hatred on the state that represents the aspirations of the Jewish people instead of Jews individually. Instead of small groups of Jews acting as a target living within a nation state, the State of Israel now exists as a small nation state living within the greater community of nations. It's the same old target, but under a different guise.

Those who refuse to admit that antisemitism is now primarily a leftist illness are either too ignorant, too stupid or too dishonest to notice what is as plain a day. Arab propaganda has been specially tailored to appeal to leftists, thus all the talk about apartheid and whathaveyou, and the entire creation of a brand new people called "Palestinian" was geared towards that end. It was simply the way to frame the conflict, not between Arabs and Jews, but between Jews and this mythical new subset of Arabs created specifically for the purpose of deceiving low functioning leftists into joining their persecution. By joining the persecution of Jews, all these leftists see themselves as protecting the underdog, even as they add their support to the great majority, instead. That is where the sense of virtue comes in, however, as they have fallen prey to all the propaganda geared towards deceiving them as they carry the Arab torch for the destruction of the tiny Jewish state because of the invention of this new group.

According to articles I've read antisemitism is inherent in both the far right and far left in European political parties. I'm not surprised that virtuous rightwinger Nazis like yourself fail to recognize it's existence. Rightwingers don't like to recognize it amongst their own. They repackage the same hatred in overt nationalism and anti-muslim rhetoric in an attempt to legitimize scapegoating, but underneath the same old antisemitic canard are propagated by its membership.

 

[koshergrl]

Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis

The Nazi movement is certainly gaining steam across Europe, though fueled far less by hatred of Jews as you suggest than by hatred of Muslims fleeing wars the West started in their home countries.

I agree.

I think it's fueled by a melting pot of scapegoats. Boycotting commodities produced in the Occupied Territories seems in my opinion a legitimate action to try to force a resolution of the IP situation much like boycotts did with South Africa. But there are hidden dangers there that ought to be examined.

How many of those supporting the movements truly care about the Palestinians? How many of them are opposing Israel's policies, and how many of them are simply finding a way of legitimizing the scapegoating of Jews - all Jews?

I'm seeing a lot of things that are very concerning: the rise, around Europe (and America) of far right nationalistic politics that are based, in part, on the politics of exclusion - anti-immigrant for example. Those are often the same groups that scapegoat Jews. They are legitimizing themselves on the issues of immigration and Islam where they have gained widespread support, because it's not "socially acceptable" to outwardly hate Jews the way it is Muslims but I think it's there, and can be seen in the propogation of conspiracy theories.

There are disturbing "groupings" - anti-semitism with some if the far right, anti-semitism painted as "anti-Israel" from some of the far left, and anti-semitism from some Muslim immigrants. But it's dishonest to label all opposition to Israel as anti-semitism.

Instead of the politics of seperation and division, there needs to be a move towards interfaith action in order to overcome this trend. It's been heading towards a dangerous repetition of history and the politics and rhetoric are the same, even if the targeted scapegoats now include others.

Why do you see the only way forward to be stealing Israeli land and giving it to illegalimmigrants, is this because that is how you ended up owning America ?

Why should the Jews ALWAYS be the ones to give up what is theirs under international law, and why do those who deny they are anti semitic deny the Jews their rights

Coyote is pro-muslim, pro-isis, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-baby. That's why she believes the Jews should always be the ones to die/give up property/etc.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

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According to articles I've read antisemitism is inherent in both the far right and far left in European political parties. I'm not surprised that virtuous rightwinger Nazis like yourself fail to recognize it's existence. Rightwingers don't like to recognize it amongst their own. They repackage the same hatred in overt nationalism and anti-muslim rhetoric in an attempt to legitimize scapegoating, but underneath the same old antisemitic canard are propagated by its membership.

I'm sure all those "articles" you read at electronicintafada are very informative.

I am not one of these mythical "rightwing" Nazis of which you speak. Unlike you, I support gay rights, women's rights, a clean environment, progressive taxation and a strong separation of religion and politics. These are hardly right wing positions even if you do happen to possess such a combination of stupidity and utter dishonesty to ever admit it.

Did one of the Malfoys hit you with a particularly nasty Cranius imperviosis spell by any chance?

 

[Coyote]

The Nazi movement is certainly gaining steam across Europe, though fueled far less by hatred of Jews as you suggest than by hatred of Muslims fleeing wars the West started in their home countries.

huh? can you expand on that delusion?

Are you suggesting the neo-Nazis in Europe are actually okay with Muslim refugees? Are you suggesting that the West has nothing to do with the Middle East?

lots of people have problems with the influx of refugees from the Middle East wherever they are INFLUXING-------NO LARGE AND PROMINENT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD -----has "nothing to do with the middle east" As to the present situation in Syria-----the USA did not MAKE IT HAPPEN----not by a long shot

The US had a lot to do with what happened when it set things in motion by invading Iraq. But equally to blame was Europe's carving up of the Ottoman Empire creating large artificial states.

See you ignore the truth and go for islamonazi propaganda instead. The LoN ( not Europe) gave the inhabitants of the former Ottoman empire the nations they wanted based on historic borders. They are not "artificial states" other than Jordan and palestine that never existed in antiquity

Been reading a very interesting article that's almost a short book, on the origins of the conflicts in the modern middle east. Maybe you should read a bit before you spew your crap.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Coyote is pro-muslim, pro-isis, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-baby. That's why she believes the Jews should always be the ones to die/give up property/etc.

People should pay attention to the serious comments that elicit her "funny" response in particular. Muslims indulging in mass murder is funny to her. Muslims raping children is funny to her. Muslims killing Jews is funny to her. If a person opposes ANYTHING a Muslim does, she thinks it is funny.