The Bible Logic Quiz: Heaven or HELL!

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>>If the Bible is the Word of God then that word is evil, psychotic, depraved, contradictory, unjust, hateful and absurd.<<

Either that or God speaks in parables just as He did to His apostles. There is a divine purpose for keeping us partially in mystery. Only those in virtually perfect union with God are given the greater insight. Put it this way --- if one is not truly humble, they have little chance of rising in holiness. Jesus said that most do not come to know God and love God because of a sluggish heart.

>>If you don't know the answers then you clearly do not know the Bible/Word of God.<<

You are far too arrogant to be given enough grace to discern wisely. (imo)

>> BTW I am not here to disprove God because one cannot disprove a negative. I can and I have totally disproved the Bible and I used the Bible to do it and since I am a Biblical scholar I can do it with one brain tied behind my back.<<

Jesus said “if you will not put faith in my words put faith in the works that I do.” You following? God gave the skeptic other means for manifesting His reality. Signs and wonders which have no natural explanation. So laugh of His Word all you want, but don’t try to pretend those miracles are tricks and lies. Your pretext “it simply cannot be” fails.

>>Now you are lying hard. You cannot cite any wonders and miracles that you can use to prove the validity of the Bible or the existence of your pathetic God.<<

I know I can. Alleluia.

>>Here are 9 statements by Jesus saying that WHATEVER you pray for you will receive so now you have no excuse. If your prayers go unanswered then your Bible is BULL SHIT. - - - - - - 1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)… [repeat nine times]<<

Various ways of commenting on that, I would consult saints writings for the best answers. I suppose the most common response is that God answers our prayers, but in ways that are best for us, reasons we cannot understand now but will. I know that does not satisfy you in the least because verbatim meaning is what you expect. Ah, cannot help you. But neither am I going to turn my back on what I do know about my God and heaven and eternity. Quite a bit of evidence for God despite His “human-interpreted lie of a promise” to just walk away from. Eternity is a serious matter and very much a reality.


(Attributed to a battle weary confederate soldier near the end of the war)
I asked God for strength, that I might achieve;
I was made weak, that I might learn humbly to obey.
I asked for health, that I might do greater things;
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.
I asked for riches, that I might be happy;
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.
I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men;
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.
I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life;
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.
I got nothing that I asked for, but everything I hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.
I am among all men most richly blessed.

Jesus spoke in parables to confuse people so that they would screw up.

Mark: Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

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Or perhaps that is why He gave us His Church. So we would not be so "clever" and go it alone. We need a Church, a community, and a need to help one another.

Your ways of trying to dumb down what God has said to us and given to us are really quite parochial. For someone who thinks he is so clever you sure miss the boat quite often. Your demands upon God are also that of a pride-hurt school boy.

Do you really care to know the truth and why God has put us on this earth? Or do you prefer to hate and impress those who know even less than you? Are you so "clever" to think there is no concrete evidence and reason for God's existence? Are you one of those who believes a rock can turn into a living cell with a thousand machines inside of it, all by chance? And then later on turn into an eye ball and a liver and a spine, all by chance? And that is being clever? (sigh)
 
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>>If the Bible is the Word of God then that word is evil, psychotic, depraved, contradictory, unjust, hateful and absurd.<<

Either that or God speaks in parables just as He did to His apostles. There is a divine purpose for keeping us partially in mystery. Only those in virtually perfect union with God are given the greater insight. Put it this way --- if one is not truly humble, they have little chance of rising in holiness. Jesus said that most do not come to know God and love God because of a sluggish heart.

>>If you don't know the answers then you clearly do not know the Bible/Word of God.<<

You are far too arrogant to be given enough grace to discern wisely. (imo)

>> BTW I am not here to disprove God because one cannot disprove a negative. I can and I have totally disproved the Bible and I used the Bible to do it and since I am a Biblical scholar I can do it with one brain tied behind my back.<<

Jesus said “if you will not put faith in my words put faith in the works that I do.” You following? God gave the skeptic other means for manifesting His reality. Signs and wonders which have no natural explanation. So laugh of His Word all you want, but don’t try to pretend those miracles are tricks and lies. Your pretext “it simply cannot be” fails.

>>Now you are lying hard. You cannot cite any wonders and miracles that you can use to prove the validity of the Bible or the existence of your pathetic God.<<

I know I can. Alleluia.

>>Here are 9 statements by Jesus saying that WHATEVER you pray for you will receive so now you have no excuse. If your prayers go unanswered then your Bible is BULL SHIT. - - - - - - 1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)… [repeat nine times]<<

Various ways of commenting on that, I would consult saints writings for the best answers. I suppose the most common response is that God answers our prayers, but in ways that are best for us, reasons we cannot understand now but will. I know that does not satisfy you in the least because verbatim meaning is what you expect. Ah, cannot help you. But neither am I going to turn my back on what I do know about my God and heaven and eternity. Quite a bit of evidence for God despite His “human-interpreted lie of a promise” to just walk away from. Eternity is a serious matter and very much a reality.


(Attributed to a battle weary confederate soldier near the end of the war)
I asked God for strength, that I might achieve;
I was made weak, that I might learn humbly to obey.
I asked for health, that I might do greater things;
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.
I asked for riches, that I might be happy;
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.
I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men;
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.
I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life;
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.
I got nothing that I asked for, but everything I hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.
I am among all men most richly blessed.

Jesus spoke in parables to confuse people so that they would screw up.

Mark: Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

evil+jesus+leukemia.jpg

Or perhaps that is why He gave us His Church. So we would not be so "clever" and go it alone. We need a Church, a community, and a need to help one another.

Your ways of trying to dumb down what God has said to us and given to us are really quite parochial. For someone who thinks he is so clever you sure miss the boat quite often. Your demands upon God are also that of a pride-hurt school boy.

Do you really care to know the truth and why God has put us on this earth? Or do you prefer to hate and impress those who know even less than you? Are you so "clever" to think there is no concrete evidence and reason for God's existence? Are you one of those who believes a rock can turn into a living cell with a thousand machines inside of it, all by chance? And then later on turn into an eye ball and a liver and a spine, all by chance? And that is being clever? (sigh)

Dumbed down? The only way to believe the Bible is to be dumbed down. You actually believe that your God is not a monster... How do you explain the following?

Infanticide:

1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.



The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.

The truth is, Bible God is an evil god.
 

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