The Antichrist

[Delta4Embassy]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

 

[sealybobo]

1 John 2:22-23 says that ANYONE who denies that Jesus is the Messiah ("the Christ" is English for "the Messiah") is the ANTICHRIST...that means that most of the Jews are ANTICHRISTS:

"(22)Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.(23) No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also." 1 John 2:22-23, NIV

Christians, what are your thoughts on most of the Jews being ANTICHRISTS?

Every Jew, Muslim, Agnostic & Atheist.

 

[sealybobo]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

I use to say that! I use to say that Jesus never told anyone to start a new religion. He was just telling the Jews they had lost their way and they were being hypocrites. Any doubt he would tell us Christians the same thing today?

 

[gipper]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

So Jesus was actually not the Christ, but the anti-Christ.

In your deluded mind, Jesus did not teach love, tolerance, and forgiveness. He taught the opposite.

 

[ninja007]

there is a difference between AN AC and THE AC in the Book Of Revelation.

 

[The Irish Ram]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

Christ didn't teach Judaism. One of the charges the Pharisees brought against Him was working on the Sabbath.
The Law brought about judgment and death. Christ removed the condemnation of the law from us all by drawing all judgment onto Himself.
He did indeed start a new church which He refers to as His bride. It consists of those who follow Him. Not Moses, not the Pope. And He doesn't care if that person is Jew or Gentile. He loves us all the same.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

So Jesus was actually not the Christ, but the anti-Christ.

In your deluded mind, Jesus did not teach love, tolerance, and forgiveness. He taught the opposite.

Try reading it again. You seem to have suffered a microseizure and skipped some words.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I think Christianity itself is the Antichrist. My logic:

First there was Judaism. Then Jesus came along teaching Judaism. After Jesus, Christianity came along. But it added a lot of things which are polar opposites to Judaism like

-Hell (no Hell in Judaism)
-Devil (no Devil in Judaism, Satan's just another angel)
-No Commandments (Christians are 'beyond the Mosaic Law' they like to claim)
-Anti-Mesiah (no anti-Mesiah in Judaism)

Everything about Christianity is anti-Judaism thus itself is the Antichrist if the Christ was teaching Judaism and not Christianity.

Christ didn't teach Judaism. One of the charges the Pharisees brought against Him was working on the Sabbath.
The Law brought about judgment and death. Christ removed the condemnation of the law from us all by drawing all judgment onto Himself.
He did indeed start a new church which He refers to as His bride. It consists of those who follow Him. Not Moses, not the Pope. And He doesn't care if that person is Jew or Gentile. He loves us all the same.

Disagree. Christianity didn't exist during his ministry period. The Gospels didn't either nor would they in his lifetime (or however you prefer to think of it.) And there are pleanty of references to his disciples and others addressing him as rabbi.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Oh He was definitely a Jewish Rabbi. And He fulfilled the law. And He was the beginning of Christianity. No Christ, no Christian. What He was, that the Jews didn't realize, was the only sacrifice they would ever need. Animal sacrifices were a temporary covering of your sins. That is why it had to be repeated. Christ came to cover your sins once and for all. And He's coming back to you because He loves you. The disciples were eye witnesses to the life of the Messiah, and recorded what they heard and saw.

 

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

ok then, by your reason, 1 John 2:22 as "denying that Jesus is the Christ." neither are jews, as they don't have a christ in their religion

"Christ" is just the English form of the Hebrew "Mashiach" or "Messiah."

 

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

Every Jew, Muslim, Agnostic & Atheist.

See this post: The Antichrist US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum .

 

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

there is a difference between AN AC and THE AC in the Book Of Revelation.

The Book of Revelation does not use the word "antichrist," LIAR. You are referring to MADE UP doctrine. The Bible clearly defines antichrist in 1 John 2:22.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Oh He was definitely a Jewish Rabbi. And He fulfilled the law. And He was the beginning of Christianity. No Christ, no Christian. What He was, that the Jews didn't realize, was the only sacrifice they would ever need. Animal sacrifices were a temporary covering of your sins. That is why it had to be repeated. Christ came to cover your sins once and for all. And He's coming back to you because He loves you. The disciples were eye witnesses to the life of the Messiah, and recorded what they heard and saw.

If Jesus was Jewish, and Christianity stands diametrically opposed to Judaism in some critical areas, then it's Christianity who's opposing Judaism, and by extension the Jewish Messiah. Ergo, the antichrist.

 

[ninja007]

there is a difference between AN AC and THE AC in the Book Of Revelation.

The Book of Revelation does not use the word "antichrist," LIAR. You are referring to MADE UP doctrine. The Bible clearly defines antichrist in 1 John 2:22.

The Antichrist denies the existence of the true God calling himself plainly, God. The Antichrist , the man of sin who is coming “opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he, as God, sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thess. 2:4). The Antichrist’s true objective is found in Daniel 11:37 “Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.” Satan’s objective from the beginning is to be the imitator of God and be accepted in his place (Isa. 14:12-17). With the declaration of deity by the Antichrist, he will execute his first purpose in the program to displace Christ, and install himself instead as lord of the universe and king of Israel and Jerusalem. (The abomination of desolation will be progressive. The ultimate blasphemy which brings in the great tribulation is when the Antichrist will take over the Jewish temple, sit down in the holy of holies, and declare himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-10, Matthew 24:15, 21, 29-31).

 

[hobelim]

The Antichrist denies the existence of the true God calling himself plainly, God. The Antichrist , the man of sin who is coming “opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he, as God, sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thess. 2:4). The Antichrist’s true objective is found in Daniel 11:37 “Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.” Satan’s objective from the beginning is to be the imitator of God and be accepted in his place (Isa. 14:12-17). With the declaration of deity by the Antichrist, he will execute his first purpose in the program to displace Christ, and install himself instead as lord of the universe and king of Israel and Jerusalem. (The abomination of desolation will be progressive. The ultimate blasphemy which brings in the great tribulation is when the Antichrist will take over the Jewish temple, sit down in the holy of holies, and declare himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-10, Matthew 24:15, 21, 29-31).

What an amazing coincidence!

The antichrist that you just described sounds exactly like the counterfeit Jesus created by Rome and unleashed on the world in 325 c.e., the god made man made matzoh made by human hands who claimed to be God, promoted the worship of a coequal trinity, a god unknown to Judaism, abolished Mosaic law, but never actually existed.

 

[Abishai100]

The Art Lens


In Danny Boyle's deceptively-complex film "The Beach" (2000), a pensive young American traveler named Richard (portrayed with flair by the engaging Leonardo DiCaprio) goes on a personal journey of self-discovery and nature-exploration on an isolated paradise-like island inhabited by journeymen seeking to create a perceptual haven.

Richard at one point decides that alienation and isolationism are tangible human instincts, ironically contradicting the natural desire to be friendly and jovial. As Richard explores this nihilistic line of thought, he assesses that relentless pursuit of self-improvement can outweigh curiosity about human companionship. We see an image of a philosophical wanderer who is experimenting with anti-socialism, and as Richard explores the idea of being an 'anti-hero,' we are invited to contemplate why society makes symbolic models of Devil's Advocates.

Has Richard been brooding about the intellectual cardinality of the Biblical AntiChrist? The Bible does suggest that the AntiChrist is a messenger of divisiveness and anti-socialism.

The image of Richard wandering around and exploring the philosophical value of isolationism it seems offers us a model of negative logic.

In the timeless children's fantasy-tale "Peter Pan" (J.M. Barrie), we find the image of an optimistic magical young boy (named Peter Pan) who can fly and seeks to draw out youngsters to inquisitively explore the realities of superstition. J.M. Barrie's Peter Pan is almost the opposite of Danny Boyle's Richard.

Maybe there's a philosophical way to use photo negatives (records of perceptual candor) to coordinate ideas about nihilism with ideas about intellectual self-indulgence so as to arrive at a more useful model of 'AntiChrist Intentionality.'





Peter Pan (Wikipedia)

 

[HaShev]

The OP stated: " 1 John 2:22-23 says that ANYONE who denies that Jesus is the Messiah is the ANTICHRIST"

Ironically that would make Jesus the AntiChrist since he said you'd come in his name claiming him the christ and deceiving many. Jesus denied he was the messiah and talked about the son of man as third person another to come later, according to this standard of reasoning Jesus is the antichrist and Christisns the deceivers are anti christs by stealing ftom Moshiach his rightful position, which is why the Bible has the Shiloh verses (means one whose right it is). If Jesus was messiah then there would be no Shiloh and no verses on warning you of the first fallen imposter messiah claimed to be a god placed higher then God.
*shaking my head at how obvious this is*

 

[HaShev]

*cue the crickets*

 

[sealybobo]

*cue the crickets*

I love it! Means I'm the or a Antichrist. Because let's be honest about 2/3rds of the world would qualify.

So logically you dont go to heaven if you arent a christian, right? Pleas find the thread "so what if I dont believe" because christians there argue christianity doesnt say that.

Where does it say we go to hell and burn for eternity

 

[HaShev]

You just stumbled on something they will miss.
the anti christs can't be 2/3 the earth as it's written 1/3
would be deceived exactly their numbers percentage wise. ;- )