Serious question for atheists.

[Taz]

To really understand what drives nature requires forgetting all that BS we've been force fed and to observe reality instead. A good place to start your reprogramming is to accept one primary truism or "law" which is that geometry clearly rules. Where left to nature's own devices consistent patterns of spatial orientation emerge. 22 page paper:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1f56/48a45169c011c82a23273f30cc297850484a.pdf

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[Grumblenuts]

During the day? At dawn? Dusk? Night?
It varies. What do you really want to know?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Another serious question for atheists perhaps?

 

[ding]

Laws and time are human constructs that serve only our purposes. Plants and other animals don't need or use them so couldn't care less. They have no impact upon non-human nature. Space is not void. It does not warp around matter. Space time is BS. Bohr atom model worship (Quantum Mechanics) as well. Without the Aether there would be no space, counterspace, matter, light, dielectricity, magnetism.. There would be nothing. If you feel you must pray to something, best pray to the Aether.

No. There is a material world that was created from nothing ~14 billion years ago.

Not a human construct at all. In fact, humans are a product of that creation.

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

 

[ding]

Pardon one moment..

The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Horse hockey. Perturbations (even random changes in density) of the Aether (think Dark Matter) induce dielectric fields. "Dielectric Ether fields in special geometric forms give rise to the creation of matter which itself is a stable form (“strong nuclear force”) of dielectricity, which then has its own field, centripetal gravitational fields. All fields were created, or are the result of the termination of another field of Ether" - Ken Wheeler. "Nothing" is a true void which only exist where there's no Aether such as within Black Holes. Matter can easily be witnessed spewing from the dielectric plane's center at the center of many galaxies.

Okay, proceed..

Proceed with what? The reality is the laws were in place before space and time itself.

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

 

[Taz]

Laws and time are human constructs that serve only our purposes. Plants and other animals don't need or use them so couldn't care less. They have no impact upon non-human nature. Space is not void. It does not warp around matter. Space time is BS. Bohr atom model worship (Quantum Mechanics) as well. Without the Aether there would be no space, counterspace, matter, light, dielectricity, magnetism.. There would be nothing. If you feel you must pray to something, best pray to the Aether.

No. There is a material world that was created from nothing ~14 billion years ago.

Not a human construct at all. In fact, humans are a product of that creation.

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

 

[Taz]

Pardon one moment..

The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Horse hockey. Perturbations (even random changes in density) of the Aether (think Dark Matter) induce dielectric fields. "Dielectric Ether fields in special geometric forms give rise to the creation of matter which itself is a stable form (“strong nuclear force”) of dielectricity, which then has its own field, centripetal gravitational fields. All fields were created, or are the result of the termination of another field of Ether" - Ken Wheeler. "Nothing" is a true void which only exist where there's no Aether such as within Black Holes. Matter can easily be witnessed spewing from the dielectric plane's center at the center of many galaxies.

Okay, proceed..

Proceed with what? The reality is the laws were in place before space and time itself.

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

Yes, energy and matter knowing their place is crucially important at this juncture.

Authoritarianism, principle of blind submission to authority, as opposed to individual freedom of thought and action. In government, authoritarianism denotes any political system that concentrates power in the hands of a leader or a small elite that is not constitutionally responsible to the body of the people. Authoritarian leaders often exercise power arbitrarily and without regard to existing bodies of law, and they usually cannot be replaced by citizens choosing freely among various competitors in elections. The freedom to create opposition political parties or other alternative political groupings with which to compete for power with the ruling group is either limited or nonexistent in authoritarian regimes.

Authoritarianism thus stands in fundamental contrast to democracy.

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[Grumblenuts]

Note the planar, spiraling geometry. 'Black hole' at center. Compare here.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Every massive object in existence in space comes with its own accretion disk. These are like rings of gas that circle the object. The supermassive black hole that scientists have identified comes with its own accretion disk. It is covered in gas and other materials that reach blazing hot temperatures. Scientists have seen is emitting powerful x-rays.

Accretion disks have been seen with other black holes before, but this is the first time that the supermassive black hole has been spotted with one. This supermassive black hole was named Sagittarius A. This astronomical object is immensely huge and it rests in the middle of the Milky Way galaxy which has an estimated distance of 26,000 light years away from the Earth. It estimated the weight of 4,000,000 solar masses definitely tips the scale.

My view is this. The accretion disc is a dielectric plane. The coupled magnetic and dielectric fields emerge normal to the plane from top and bottom in spiraling, hypotrochoidal cones. All follows the golden ratio. In other images new matter (dark masses) can be seen emerging from the center and spiraling out along the accretion disc. The purplish stuff is dense Aether or genuine electrical energy in the form of magnetism and dielectricity exiting from and terminating back into the dielectric plane or counterspace.

eta, Balls! Image won't work. I'm not giving up yet... Okay, that'll have to do.

Thin disc magnets are extremely analogous. Atoms, etc. Even bar magnets. The dielectric plane bisects the bar perfectly normal to the poles in every case.

 

[ding]

Laws and time are human constructs that serve only our purposes. Plants and other animals don't need or use them so couldn't care less. They have no impact upon non-human nature. Space is not void. It does not warp around matter. Space time is BS. Bohr atom model worship (Quantum Mechanics) as well. Without the Aether there would be no space, counterspace, matter, light, dielectricity, magnetism.. There would be nothing. If you feel you must pray to something, best pray to the Aether.

No. There is a material world that was created from nothing ~14 billion years ago.

Not a human construct at all. In fact, humans are a product of that creation.

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

 

[ding]

Pardon one moment..

The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Horse hockey. Perturbations (even random changes in density) of the Aether (think Dark Matter) induce dielectric fields. "Dielectric Ether fields in special geometric forms give rise to the creation of matter which itself is a stable form (“strong nuclear force”) of dielectricity, which then has its own field, centripetal gravitational fields. All fields were created, or are the result of the termination of another field of Ether" - Ken Wheeler. "Nothing" is a true void which only exist where there's no Aether such as within Black Holes. Matter can easily be witnessed spewing from the dielectric plane's center at the center of many galaxies.

Okay, proceed..

Proceed with what? The reality is the laws were in place before space and time itself.

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

But the Big Bang followed the laws of nature.

Do you comprehend the word follow and what that implies?

 

[Taz]

Pardon one moment..
Horse hockey. Perturbations (even random changes in density) of the Aether (think Dark Matter) induce dielectric fields. "Dielectric Ether fields in special geometric forms give rise to the creation of matter which itself is a stable form (“strong nuclear force”) of dielectricity, which then has its own field, centripetal gravitational fields. All fields were created, or are the result of the termination of another field of Ether" - Ken Wheeler. "Nothing" is a true void which only exist where there's no Aether such as within Black Holes. Matter can easily be witnessed spewing from the dielectric plane's center at the center of many galaxies.

Okay, proceed..

Proceed with what? The reality is the laws were in place before space and time itself.

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

But the Big Bang followed the laws of nature.

Do you comprehend the word follow and what that implies?

You don't know if there are other BBs that didn't follow the same laws. You fail.

 

[Taz]

Laws and time are human constructs that serve only our purposes. Plants and other animals don't need or use them so couldn't care less. They have no impact upon non-human nature. Space is not void. It does not warp around matter. Space time is BS. Bohr atom model worship (Quantum Mechanics) as well. Without the Aether there would be no space, counterspace, matter, light, dielectricity, magnetism.. There would be nothing. If you feel you must pray to something, best pray to the Aether.

No. There is a material world that was created from nothing ~14 billion years ago.

Not a human construct at all. In fact, humans are a product of that creation.

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

 

[Grumblenuts]

No doubt The Aether grew massively perturbed after reading so many bonehead comments from the likes of ding.

 

[ding]

Proceed with what? The reality is the laws were in place before space and time itself.

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

But the Big Bang followed the laws of nature.

Do you comprehend the word follow and what that implies?

You don't know if there are other BBs that didn't follow the same laws. You fail.

It doesn’t matter if there are others. They all had beginnings.

Why wouldn’t they all follow the same rules.

You are reaching.

 

[ding]

No. There is a material world that was created from nothing ~14 billion years ago.

Not a human construct at all. In fact, humans are a product of that creation.

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

 

[Taz]

You don't know that. Stop pretending.

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

But the Big Bang followed the laws of nature.

Do you comprehend the word follow and what that implies?

You don't know if there are other BBs that didn't follow the same laws. You fail.

It doesn’t matter if there are others. They all had beginnings.

Why wouldn’t they all follow the same rules.

You are reaching.

They might follow the same rules, and they might not. We can't know right now.

 

[Taz]

You don't know that the universe was created from nothing. Stop pretending.

Had to. No other way around the SLoT.

Wrong. Again.

Do you even thermal equilibrium?

You simply don't know what caused the BB and where it came from. Nobody does.

A quantum tunneling event.

But it doesn’t really matter because it had a beginning.

So you admit that you don't know where it came from or what caused it. Good for you.

 

[ding]

100%.

Energy and matter obey laws. So before energy and matter can do what energy and matter do, there needs to be laws in place for energy and matter to follow.

The laws could have come with the BB. You don't know.

But the Big Bang followed the laws of nature.

Do you comprehend the word follow and what that implies?

You don't know if there are other BBs that didn't follow the same laws. You fail.

It doesn’t matter if there are others. They all had beginnings.

Why wouldn’t they all follow the same rules.

You are reaching.

They might follow the same rules, and they might not. We can't know right now.

Sure you can. Everything uses the same building blocks.

But you are still missing the point. Space and time had to have a beginning.