Ron DeSantis 'Will Destroy Our Democracy,' Says Fascism Expert

[JGalt]

DeSantis is just doing what his supporters want him to do. Conservatives don't actually give a fiddler's fuck about 'free speech.'. Most have no idea what the first amendment says.

Yet they give lip service to the idea.

When Disney criticized the 'don't say gay' bill, Ron used the power of the State to punish Disney for their free speech. Hawley took it a step further and tried to strip Disney of their property to punish them for their free speech.

And conservatives cheered. Because DeSantis did what they ACTUALLY believe in, rather than what conservatives CLAIM they believe in. DeSantis used the power of the state to punish free speech of those that criticize conservatives.

Which is an actual conservative value.

Look at Trump. He *repeatedly* tried to use the power of his office to punish those using their free speech to criticize him. With Trump trying to shut Jimmy Kimmel down after Kimmel criticized and mocked Trump. And the White House trying to force Twitter to remove tweets calling Trump a 'pussy ass bitch'.

Unwittingly proving Chrissy Teigan right in her assessment of Trump. As that was a total pussy ass bitch move.

Lou Dobbs, during Trump's presidency insisted that Trump had the power to shut down any news agency that Trump determined was spreading 'disinformation'.

"And when I say shut down, I mean shut down!" Dobbs insisted on air.

Conservatives would absolutely, without a doubt, use the power of the state to stifle free speech and ban criticism....if they could get away with it. As fascists do.

What you know about "conservative values" doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Disney came out against the Parental Rights in Education law that requires schools to "reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing and control of their children."

Do you want your schools grooming your children to be cross-dressing freaks or gender-confused sycophants behind your back? How about hosting drag queen shows, where mentally-ill men dressed as women, and perform sexually-suggestive dances in front of children?

No normal person in this country sees those things as "Free speech", not even most Democrats.

 

[Care4all]

DeSantis forbade vaccine mandates in order to protect Floridians while Democrats mandated them in other communities and punished those who didn't goose-step to their orders and you think DeSantis is the fascist?

He didn't protect Floridians....he killed them, by the tens of thousands....!!!!!!!!!!!

He protected his government wallet!

 

[K9Buck]

Actually, Governor DeSantis stripped Disney of extra-ordinary rights to set up their own political entity that no other corporation in Florida enjoys and that they should never have been given in the first place.

The first rule of any human interaction is that if you're dependent on someone, you shouldn't try to screw them over ...

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Disney vowed to engage in political activism in Florida in order that school teachers could continue to teach little children about same-sex relationships and gay porn. If you or I shared some of the stuff I've seen schools giving to kids we'd be charged distributing porn to minors and sentenced as sex offenders.

The claim that DeSantis reacted because of an unpopular opinion is hysterical nonsense. Disney squandered their self-government over complete insanity. Their stock is down the toilet and the incompetent CEO that initiated the insanity was FIRED.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Ron DeSantis 'Will Destroy Our Democracy,' Says Fascism Expert​

By Ewan Palmer On 2/27/23 at 8:27 AM EST



DeSantis is a scary scary man. He really does remind me of Mussolini in many ways. He hates opposing opinions.

Good grief you guys are getting an early start.

And I hope so. Your "expert" thinks we are a democracy

 

[K9Buck]

He didn't protect Floridians....he killed them, by the tens of thousands....!!!!!!!!!!!

He protected his government wallet!

What? Florida's Covid mortality rate was, as a percentage, much lower than states such as New York and Michigan in spite of having many more elderly citizens.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

He didn't protect Floridians....he killed them, by the tens of thousands....!!!!!!!!!!!

He protected his government wallet!

I always thought you were one of the more sane liberal posters here

What? Florida's Covid mortality rate was, as a percentage, much lower than states such as New York and Michigan in spite of having many more elderly citizens.

And that's the place "old people GO to die" and they did SO much better than my state of Michigan

 

[K9Buck]

Democrat governor or Republican, people have been flooding to Florida...my family did in the early 80s.... No state income tax, and the weather, and when I was younger, cheaper real estate was an incentive also, to bring more people in to the State.

Do you believe it's "authoritarian" to force little kids to wear masks all day while the government officials that invoke such mandates are exempted? DeSantis saved Florida school children from that insanity.

 

[Skylar]

Actually, Governor DeSantis stripped Disney of extra-ordinary rights to set up their own political entity that no other corporation in Florida enjoys and that they should never have been given in the first place.

DeSantis striipped Disney of its self governance......as a punishment for criticizing him. Literally using the power of the State to PUNISH the use of free speech that criticized his policies.


“You’re a corporation based in Burbank, California, and you’re gonna marshal your economic might to attack the parents of my state,” DeSantis said Friday before signing the bill into law at a ceremony in Hialeah Gardens. “We view that as a provocation, and we’re going to fight back against that.”


DeSantis was *explicit* that this was punishment for Disney's criticizing his Don't Say Gay bill.

And Conservatives CHEERED. They loved this shit. They LOVE the idea of conservatives using the power of the state to punish those that criticize them. They love the idea of the State exacting a price for being critical of conservatives. Of making the 'liberals' pay.

.....because its an ACTUAL conservative value. Not free speech.

 

[K9Buck]

I always thought you were one of the more sane liberal posters here

And that's the place "old people GO to die" and they did SO much better than my state of Michigan

I'm going to unfollow this thread because I know that there is no point in sharing truth with people that refuse to acknowledge it.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Ron DeSantis 'Will Destroy Our Democracy,' Says Fascism Expert​

By Ewan Palmer On 2/27/23 at 8:27 AM EST



DeSantis is a scary scary man. He really does remind me of Mussolini in many ways. He hates opposing opinions.

SDS already. By chance do you and Banker hang out in the same gay bar? You sound the same, so scary, Mussolini scary.

 

[Skylar]

Do you believe it's "authoritarian" to force little kids to wear masks all day while the government officials that invoke such mandates are exempted? DeSantis saved Florida school children from that insanity.

Its authoritarian......to use the power of the State to punish Disney for criticizing DeSantis and his 'don't say gay' bill.

And that authoritarian streak among conservatives is what DeSantis is tapping. He's just a symptom of the desires of conservatives to punish people using the power of the State.....for being critical of conservatives.

 

[Skylar]

I'm going to unfollow this thread because I know that there is no point in sharing truth with people that refuse to acknowledge it.

You'll be happier in the echo chamber, surrounded by people that don't question your beliefs, don't challenge you, and think exactly like you do.

 

[Care4all]

Disney vowed to engage in political activism in Florida in order that school teachers could continue to teach little children about same-sex relationships and gay porn. If you or I shared some of the stuff I've seen schools giving to kids we'd be charged distributing porn to minors and sentenced as sex offenders.

The claim that DeSantis reacted because of an unpopular opinion is hysterical nonsense. Disney squandered their self-government over complete insanity. Their stock is down the toilet and the incompetent CEO that initiated the insanity was FIRED.

What you call political activism, is constitutionally protected free speech from govt interference or punishment.

What DeSantis did was not only wrong, but unconstitutional.

 

[fncceo]

What you call political activism, is constitutionally protected free speech from govt interference or punishment.

If you're receiving special benefits from the government. Benefits that not other company enjoys. It behooves you to not tick them off.

I was under the impression that, on principle, you folks were against corporate run governments without democratic mechanisms.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I'm going to unfollow this thread because I know that there is no point in sharing truth with people that refuse to acknowledge it.

Their pure hatred blinds them. It's only going to get worse as the election gets closer

 

[Skylar]

What you know about "conservative values" doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Disney came out against the Parental Rights in Education law that requires schools to "reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing and control of their children."

Do you want your schools grooming your children to be cross-dressing freaks or gender-confused sycophants behind your back? How about hosting drag queen shows, where mentally-ill men dressed as women, and perform sexually-suggestive dances in front of children?

No normal person in this country sees those things as "Free speech", not even most Democrats.

Y'all have shed almost everything you claimed to support for a game show host, J.

Family values? You grabbed those by the pussy.

Government transparency? Y'all took the 5th.

Fiscal responsibility? Trump holds the single term record for adding to the deficit.

Personal responsibility? Y'all have blamed everyone from antifa to BLM to Ray Epps to the FBI for J6. But never your own ilk. In the party of personal responsibility, its ALWAYS someone else's fault.

Law and Order? Tell that to the cops defending the capitol.

Freedom? You've been stripping people of their rights and turning them into crimes.......setting up bounties to turn in friends and families.

Free speech? Your ilk DELIGHT in using the power of the state to punish those that criticize them. Especially DeSantis and 'pussy ass bitch' Trump.

What's left? Your ilk stand for nothing. Only naked plays for power. You've dilluted your brand to utter incoherence until 'conservative' doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

 

[Skylar]

If you're receiving special benefits from the government. Benefits that not other company enjoys. It behooves you to not tick them off.

I was under the impression that, on principle, you folks were against corporate run governments without democratic mechanisms.

And like clockwork, conservatives cheer and defend DeSantis using the power of the state to openly punish Disney for criticizing him.

Demonstrating my point elegantly. DeSantis is only following the authoritarizan tendancies of his base. As they *delight* in using the power of the State to punish those criticizing conservatives.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The Lefts Latest 'Victim' Disney.
The company is known for its anti-union stance, and has been accused of paying slave wages overseas to employees who manufacture toys that sell at a very high margin in the United States. Disney has also emerged as one of the most powerful opponents of the growing national trend to enact paid sick leave for employees.

BoycottDisney is trending for numerous reasons, including their political stance, soaring admission prices, customer service issues, and even their pandemic-related layoffs. People are complaining about long waiting lines, issues with the system, and are saying how Disney isn't exactly as "magical" as it used to be.

 

[GreenBean]

Uh huh, sure.

This of course coming from the statist shills who never dare question the government, and love when multinational billion dollar corporations infringe on citizens’ rights on behalf of the government.

Ron DeSantis 'Will Destroy Our Democracy,' Says Fascism Expert​

By Ewan Palmer On 2/27/23 at 8:27 AM EST



DeSantis is a scary scary man. He really does remind me of Mussolini in many ways. He hates opposing opinions.

Re: DeSantis is a scary scary man. ... Yes - he should be considered scary to Progressives eveywhere in the same fashion that Churchill and Roosevelt were scary to Hitler and Mussolini. How dare he fight back against the fascist progressive machine, how dare he stand up for the average John Q. Citizen.

While the Trump era is finished IMHO - DeSantis may be the rising star. Apparently the Facists beleive so, as they are doubling down on their rhetoric and propaganda against him.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Re: DeSantis is a scary scary man. ... Yes - he should be considered scary to Progressives eveywhere in the same fashion that Churchill and Roosevelt were scary to Hitler and Mussolini. How dare he fight back against the fascist progressive machine, how dare he stand up for the average John Q. Citizen.

While the Trump era is finished IMHO - DeSantis may be the rising star. Apparently the Facists beleive so, as they are doubling down on their rhetoric and propaganda against him.

If he beats Trump for the general election, all 'hell' will break loose. He is, after all, their latest demon threatening their 'democracy'