Zone1 Protestants never tell you which Church in the world goes back in time to the Resurrection

[surada]

That's because anyone who studies history knows that the Catholic Church is the only one that goes back that far.

As someone once said, "To be deep in history is to cease being a Protestant"

The followers of Joseph Smith will tell you that he ws a legitimate leader even though he didn't come on the scene until the 1800s

Other folks tell you it was some other person / group

But none of them can be traced back to Christ and the 12

The Coptic church goes back to 42 AD.

 

[surada]

Immanuel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

The Jehovah’s Witnesses claimed the world would end 12 times in the past century and a half. The first was in 1877. It was quickly followed by other predictions in 1914, 1916, 1920, 1925, 1938, 1942, 1961, 1966, 1975, 1984 and finally 2000.

 

[BreezeWood]

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all the scriptural n t religions date to the late 4th century publication of the christian bible, the true religions date to the time of a&e that is spoken not written taught by jesus, the religion of antiquity. excluding the madeup judean religion and its false god.

well, could it be the joke is on the desert - and not those in the 1st century who gave their lives for the true religion granted a&e and taught by jesus.

where in the 4th century christian bible is there what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination the religion of antiquity issued to a&e for their journey's goal the remission as equals among those already in heaven as was their choosing.

 

[kjw47]

Peddle your doom and gloom on the ignorant. Doesn't work on me. You can't scare me into believing a lie.

The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. Only the wicked fear it coming.

 

[kjw47]

He's talking about Hezekiah.

???

 

[BS Filter]

The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. Only the wicked fear it coming.

I certainly don't fear the coming of the Lord. You guys believe Jesus came back in 1914 or something like that. The Bible says when He returns every eye will see Him. Another lie.

 

[surada]

well, could it be the joke is on the desert - and not those in the 1st century who gave their lives for the true religion granted a&e and taught by jesus.

where in the 4th century christian bible is there what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination the religion of antiquity issued to a&e for their journey's goal the remission as equals among those already in heaven as was their choosing.

Liberation theology is in the Sermon on the Mount.

 

[kjw47]

I certainly don't fear the coming of the Lord. You guys believe Jesus came back in 1914 or something like that. The Bible says when He returns every eye will see Him. Another lie.

1914 is the presence- Matt 24:37--1Cor 15:23--2Pet 3:4

 

[BreezeWood]

Liberation theology is in the Sermon on the Mount.

word for word ...

and freedom replaced all aspects of slavery in the 4th century christian bible - where your religion is founded ...

not what jesus taught, is the temple mount a refutation of judaism, reaffirmation the religion of antiquity.

 

[ninja007]

Is the Catholic Church the mother church?​

Answer

The Roman Catholic Church claims to have originated with Christ and the apostles and is therefore the oldest church and “mother” or head of all other churches, especially those in the Protestant tradition. Sometimes Roman Catholics refer to their church as the “Holy Mother Church” or, in Latin, “Sancta Mater Ecclesia.” In fact, Catholics pinpoint the Diocese of Rome, specifically the Basilica of the Savior or St. John Lateran, as the official “mother church.” Protestants and others are seen as children who have “strayed” from their mother and are admonished to return “home” to Catholicism.

The term Holy Mother Church refers to the Roman Catholic Church in many places in literature. Cervantes’ Don Quixote (Chapter XXVII), Scott’s Ivanhoe (Chapter II), Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court (Chapter XXV), and Shakespeare’s King John (Act III, Scene 1) all contain instances of the Catholic Church being called the “mother church.”

In order to be the “mother church,” Roman Catholicism must be the original form of Christianity. And that’s exactly what Catholics teach concerning their history. One of the dogmas of the Roman Church is that Jesus appointed Peter as His vicar (representative) over the church (Matthew 16:17–19). This teaching presumes that the “rock” Jesus said He would build His church on was Peter and that Peter was the first pope.

There is another, slightly different sense in which Catholics use the term mother church. It is a term of endearment, as faithful Catholics view their church as an entity that nurtures, cares for, and guides the family of God in all things. They give honor to their ecclesiastical “mother” as children give honor to their real mothers (Ephesians 6:2). Just as Catholics see Mary as the Theotókos or “God-bearer,” so they see their “mother church” as today’s “God-bearer”—the means by which God is brought into the world.

There are historical and theological problems with calling the Roman Catholic Church the “mother church.” Historically, Catholicism has its origins in the time of Emperor Constantine in the fourth century. The bishop of Rome did not begin calling himself the “pope” until Siricius did it late in the fourth century. Theologically, there is no biblical evidence for apostolic succession or that Peter was the “prince of apostles”; in fact, there is no clear biblical case to be made that Peter even visited Rome, and he certainly never claimed authority over the other apostles.

Biblically speaking, the true “mother church” is the church that is described in the book of Acts and the New Testament epistles. In the biblical mother church, you will find no mention of priests, cardinals, or popes. Nowhere will you find Mary being adored or saints being venerated. In the biblical descriptions of the true mother church, there are no infants being baptized or elements of the Lord’s Supper being transformed into the body and blood of Jesus. So, very clearly no, the Catholic Church is not the mother church.

 

[surada]

word for word ...

and freedom replaced all aspects of slavery in the 4th century christian bible - where your religion is founded ...

not what jesus taught, is the temple mount a refutation of judaism, reaffirmation the religion of antiquity.

It's teaching passive resistance...as in shame your enemy .... as a way to survive Roman occupation and Roman laws.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's teaching passive resistance...as in shame your enemy .... as a way to survive Roman occupation and Roman laws.

there is no reference to roman injustice in the christian bible per jesus, the state religion of the roman empire ... surprise surprise

1st century was the repudiation of judaism - as a heavenly religion claimed by the liars moses and abraham - not in the christian bible either.

some simple homily is why jesus was crucified -

surada ... let them eat cake.