Pastor that "cures gays" accused of sexual coercion

[Cecilie1200]

Everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty under law the law. I'm don't know why you demand that people state the obvious. It gets old.

Remember the threads where some posters got upset cause Obama wouldn't state the obvious?

O, grow up you guys. That man is guilty as sin.

Oh, really? You know him personally, do you? Friends with the accusers? Attend that church? Have personal knowledge of all of the circumstances involved? Or is it just that you've decided that any religious person ever accused of wrongdoing must be a guilty sleazebag because that way, you can feel better about your own life?

I'd be really interested to know how you come by your "certain knowledge" of his guilt, and I'd be even more interested to see you engage in a little self-reflection concerning your words and attitudes.

 

[Ravi]

Everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty under law the law. I'm don't know why you demand that people state the obvious. It gets old.

Really?...

From this Thread's OP as Titled by Ravi:

Pastor that "cures gays" accused of sexual coercion

'I'm under attack,' Georgia bishop accused of sexual misconduct tells church

With male teens, no less.

Jesus... Could you be any More Dishonest?... Cause I Know you're NOT Stupid.

Is it Entertaining for you to Lie this Abjectly and then see what the Response is of other people?...



peace...

Are you trying to say he hasn't been accused of sexually coercing male teens?

Just when I think you can't get any stupider...

 

[mal]

Everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty under law the law. I'm don't know why you demand that people state the obvious. It gets old.

Really?...

From this Thread's OP as Titled by Ravi:

Pastor that "cures gays" accused of sexual coercion

'I'm under attack,' Georgia bishop accused of sexual misconduct tells church

With male teens, no less.

Jesus... Could you be any More Dishonest?... Cause I Know you're NOT Stupid.

Is it Entertaining for you to Lie this Abjectly and then see what the Response is of other people?...



peace...

Are you trying to say he hasn't been accused of sexually coercing male teens?

Just when I think you can't get any stupider...

Dipshit... YOUR Commentary doesn't Include, "Let's not jump to Conclusions, this is only Accusations..."

It Assumes he's Guilty and ANY Honest Person who Reads your OP would Conclude the same, you Ravihole!...

At least Maddy Honest about it and she says it.

What a Fucking Cancer on the Internet you are.



peace...

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Conwhore is a man of the cloth ?
I knew he was a lib ,I didnt know how far it went.

 

[Ravi]

Really?...

From this Thread's OP as Titled by Ravi:

Pastor that "cures gays" accused of sexual coercion



Jesus... Could you be any More Dishonest?... Cause I Know you're NOT Stupid.

Is it Entertaining for you to Lie this Abjectly and then see what the Response is of other people?...



peace...

Are you trying to say he hasn't been accused of sexually coercing male teens?

Just when I think you can't get any stupider...

Dipshit... YOUR Commentary doesn't Include, "Let's not jump to Conclusions, this is only Accusations..."

It Assumes he's Guilty and ANY Honest Person who Reads your OP would Conclude the same, you Ravihole!...

At least Maddy Honest about it and she says it.

What a Fucking Cancer on the Internet you are.



peace...

Not my problem you can't read English.

 

[Ravi]

Conwhore is a man of the cloth ?
I knew he was a lib ,I didnt know how far it went.

If that asshole is a lib then you really are a Muslim.

 

[del]

Anyway, if black christians have heartburn over homosexuality (and it now appears some do), it is past time to drag that prejudice out into the open and begin to discuss it.

Blacks in general tend to be anti-gay

They voted in droves against Prop 8

And ALL of them are Closet Cases... Ask Ravi.



peace...

funny, you don't look black

 

[del]

Really?...

From this Thread's OP as Titled by Ravi:

Pastor that "cures gays" accused of sexual coercion



Jesus... Could you be any More Dishonest?... Cause I Know you're NOT Stupid.

Is it Entertaining for you to Lie this Abjectly and then see what the Response is of other people?...



peace...

Are you trying to say he hasn't been accused of sexually coercing male teens?

Just when I think you can't get any stupider...

Dipshit... YOUR Commentary doesn't Include, "Let's not jump to Conclusions, this is only Accusations..."

It Assumes he's Guilty and ANY Honest Person who Reads your OP would Conclude the same, you Ravihole!...

At least Maddy Honest about it and she says it.

What a Fucking Cancer on the Internet you are.



peace...

funny, when i read accused, i think.........


































accused.

weird

 

[saveliberty]

The time to really get nervous is when they term you "a person of interest".

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know........you can't "cure" people of homosexuality.........

They're physiologically and hormonally different than straights. Scientists and doctors have proven this.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Conwhore is a man of the cloth ?
I knew he was a lib ,I didnt know how far it went.

If that asshole is a lib then you really are a Muslim.

I posted the links , you had no interest.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You know........you can't "cure" people of homosexuality.........

They're physiologically and hormonally different than straights. Scientists and doctors have proven this.

You know and care.

 

[blu]

What part of accused do you not understand, mal?

Why don't you go back to trying to make Elmo out to be a sex-fiend?

Still not allowed to live withing 2 miles of an elementary school I see.

mal is one the biggest & dumbest trolls on the internet

 

[Cecilie1200]

Your OP is all that's Needed to Conclude your View...

Otherwise you would have Illustrated that this guy was Innoncent until Proven Guilty in your OP...

Instead you WAY Insinuate that he's Obviously Guilty...

I don't Care what the Headline you Quoted Stated...

Your Comments were MORE than enough.



peace...

It's interesting how Ravi knows that this pastor is into "curing gays", but it's not mentioned anywhere in her link article.

It's in mine. Here is the link again:

Clergy abuse suit: Megapastor denies coercing young men for sex, fought gay marriage | cleveland.com

Long has called for a national ban on same-sex marriage and his church counsels gay members to become straight. In 2004, he led a march with Bernice King to her father's Atlanta grave to support a national constitutional amendment to protect marriage "between one man and one woman."

Wasn't talking about what you knew or what your links are. I'm talking about what Ravi claimed in her thread title and OP and then didn't demonstrate.

 

[mal]

It's interesting how Ravi knows that this pastor is into "curing gays", but it's not mentioned anywhere in her link article.

It's in mine. Here is the link again:

Clergy abuse suit: Megapastor denies coercing young men for sex, fought gay marriage | cleveland.com

Long has called for a national ban on same-sex marriage and his church counsels gay members to become straight. In 2004, he led a march with Bernice King to her father's Atlanta grave to support a national constitutional amendment to protect marriage "between one man and one woman."

Wasn't talking about what you knew or what your links are. I'm talking about what Ravi claimed in her thread title and OP and then didn't demonstrate.

Don't waste your time... Ravi simply isn't that Honest...



peace...

 

[Madeline]

Remember the threads where some posters got upset cause Obama wouldn't state the obvious?

O, grow up you guys. That man is guilty as sin.

Oh, really? You know him personally, do you? Friends with the accusers? Attend that church? Have personal knowledge of all of the circumstances involved? Or is it just that you've decided that any religious person ever accused of wrongdoing must be a guilty sleazebag because that way, you can feel better about your own life?

I'd be really interested to know how you come by your "certain knowledge" of his guilt, and I'd be even more interested to see you engage in a little self-reflection concerning your words and attitudes.

I am not convinced of his guilt because he is religious, Cecile. I will admit, proving an anti-gay activist is gay delights me, and I might be biased. However, what convinces me is, four plaintiffs have separately accused him, the pattern of conduct alleged is the same, and the evidence adduced so far (a pattern of spending, traveling together, gifts, contacts, etc.) is (to me) pretty conclusive.

BTW, I hate Clinton with a passion. If he's ever been accused of rape, I missed it. May I have a link?

 

[Ravi]

It's interesting how Ravi knows that this pastor is into "curing gays", but it's not mentioned anywhere in her link article.

It's in mine. Here is the link again:

Clergy abuse suit: Megapastor denies coercing young men for sex, fought gay marriage | cleveland.com

Long has called for a national ban on same-sex marriage and his church counsels gay members to become straight. In 2004, he led a march with Bernice King to her father's Atlanta grave to support a national constitutional amendment to protect marriage "between one man and one woman."

Wasn't talking about what you knew or what your links are. I'm talking about what Ravi claimed in her thread title and OP and then didn't demonstrate.

Why would I demonstrate something that is a. common knowledge and b. easily found out for yourself.

Nice to know you need to be spoon fed.

 

[Madeline]

It's in mine. Here is the link again:

Clergy abuse suit: Megapastor denies coercing young men for sex, fought gay marriage | cleveland.com

Wasn't talking about what you knew or what your links are. I'm talking about what Ravi claimed in her thread title and OP and then didn't demonstrate.

Why would I demonstrate something that is a. common knowledge and b. easily found out for yourself.

Nice to know you need to be spoon fed.

You are getting spanked, IMO, not because you did not state the obvious in your Op but because you began a thread that is causing some folks that nasty uncomfy feeling...and because you hold the apparently unpopular view that some christians have been a bit cavialier about the pastors they employ.

I doubt anyone reading up about this guys seriously thinks he can beat these charges.

 

[Cecilie1200]

O, grow up you guys. That man is guilty as sin.

Oh, really? You know him personally, do you? Friends with the accusers? Attend that church? Have personal knowledge of all of the circumstances involved? Or is it just that you've decided that any religious person ever accused of wrongdoing must be a guilty sleazebag because that way, you can feel better about your own life?

I'd be really interested to know how you come by your "certain knowledge" of his guilt, and I'd be even more interested to see you engage in a little self-reflection concerning your words and attitudes.

I am not convinced of his guilt because he is religious, Cecile. I will admit, proving an anti-gay activist is gay delights me, and I might be biased. However, what convinces me is, four plaintiffs have separately accused him, the pattern of conduct alleged is the same, and the evidence adduced so far (a pattern of spending, traveling together, gifts, contacts, etc.) is (to me) pretty conclusive.

BTW, I hate Clinton with a passion. If he's ever been accused of rape, I missed it. May I have a link?

You know what would convince me? To actually see the evidence presented in court, to a jury, rebutted by his lawyer, and then him being convicted. Until then, I don't know that these accusers didn't get together ahead of time and plan this for personal reasons of their own. I don't know that they weren't all paid by some gay activist group, come to that.

As far as "delights you", why would you take delight in someone else's unhappiness? The way I see it, the people most obsessed with helping alcoholics overcome their addiction is other alcoholics who have already been there in that struggle. Would you "delight" in seeing an AA mentor falling from grace because it "proves that he's a hypocrite" for preaching sobriety? Maybe the same holds true for homosexuality, and the people who care most about helping others change their lives are the ones who are also struggling with it.

As for Bill Clinton, what rock were you hiding under? Or are we going to try Ravi's tack of "it's not really an accusation unless criminal charges are brought"?

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[Cecilie1200]

Wasn't talking about what you knew or what your links are. I'm talking about what Ravi claimed in her thread title and OP and then didn't demonstrate.

Why would I demonstrate something that is a. common knowledge and b. easily found out for yourself.

Nice to know you need to be spoon fed.

You are getting spanked, IMO, not because you did not state the obvious in your Op but because you began a thread that is causing some folks that nasty uncomfy feeling...and because you hold the apparently unpopular view that some christians have been a bit cavialier about the pastors they employ.

I doubt anyone reading up about this guys seriously thinks he can beat these charges.

Cavalier? I wasn't aware that churches were only supposed to employ perfect people as pastors. Gonna be a lot of empty pulpits under THAT rule.

The real problem with Ravi's thread, and why she's getting her ass kicked, is because she started it in order to have a forum for a nasty rush to judgement, and a lot of other smug, superior hypocrites like her ran over to join in. Being a rotten person is never a good basis for winning an argument.