Discussion in 'Politics' started by Political Junky, Mar 4, 2010.
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I dont agree, they have lies and hate too
"Party of "'No'?"
Seriously, if this is the only banter left to describe Republicans, then the Dems are in Deeper shit than I suspected.
Independents care about spending. Stop it, and you may get their votes.
Reverse it and you win elections.
This has been a republican plot since Reagan. When in office spend spend spend, massive deficits, massive debt, never say a word about it. Then when the democrats get in office, "HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE DEBT! REIGN IN SPENDING! BLOCK EVERYTHING! WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!"
If you look at the debts by president, ALL the massive debt increases have happened under republican presidencies. Reagan ran up more debt during his tenure than every president prior. Where was all this fiscal conservatism and soundbytes about the children's future back then? Or under Dubya for that matter?
PS Clinton's the only one who reversed it since Reagan... Then lost the White House to the ne'er-do-well son of a president who resumed the spending spree. Yes, the same one that's now being blamed on Clinton and Obama.
You're absolutely correct.
The GOP doesn't need fear...it has Obama.
Sadly, you miss the point. But, don't feel bad: So do many Democrats (although the numbers are declining every week).
Independents don't care which party has increased or decreased the debt.
They want SPENDING REDUCED.
Whichever party acomplishes this will receive their support.
Whichever party opposes it, will lose.
I miss nothing, except maybe the bus now and then.
The sad thing is, I have to agree with you. Indies fail to realize that with the state of affairs when Obama took office, deficit spending was necessary, unavoidable, inevitable. No matter who won, they'd be running record deficits right now. There is no way around it, except to substantially cut military spending which no politician would dare propose, lest they be labelled an America-hating possible terrorist.
The only thing Obama has to gamble on is that the economy will improve enough due to policy and the business cycle that a balanced budget is possible within 3 years. Right now, and especially in this last year, I don't care what any of you say: A Balanced budget was not an option.
I'm pleased you wasted no time in proving my point.
If you agreed with me, then you wouldn't declare that "Indies fail to realize" anything.
Whether or not they "realize" anything is immaterial: This is what they KNOW;
1. The Federal Government is too expensive, and the size needs to be reduced.
2. "They" represent the majority: Not Republicans or Democrats.
3. They pay far too much, and receive far too little.
This is basically the "Tea-Party" that the mass media seems to have so much difficulty defining: Independent voters that have no Party Alliances.
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