When LIE and GOP Became Synonymous

[Billiejeens]

Well folks it's threads like these the we have freedom of speech. snicker snicker

It's pure delusion but protected

 

[Man With A Plan]

No, we're not talking about the good old political truth stretching.
This is about blatant lying. Bald faced lying.

Lying has become the primary political tool of the GOP. The party will lie blatantly, lie in the face of provable fact, and lies constantly about EVERYTHING.

Yes, democrats lie to but it's the old fashioned "his mouth is open" lying. Far different from what we see in the GOP.

Personally I place the period when lying became a foundation part of the GOP as 2002-2003 during Bush' runup to his war in Iraq. Specifically, Bush's 2003 SOTU and Colin Powell's perjurious testimony on Iraq's WMD to the UN.

9/11 taught the GOP one thing. Fear is the most powerful electoral motivator and nothing motivates fear like lies.

So they
Pinned 9/11 on Iraq so the fear and anger could be transferred from the politically ineffective effort in Afghanistan to a hatred of Iraq.
Accused Iraq of having WMD when all reason and logic said they didn't.

From there the "slippery slope" into Trumpism became a gentle glide that will leave the party doomed to the trash heap of history.

.

Are you kidding? I've never seen a bigger group of liars than this administration! They double down on lies even after they've been shown to be lies and they're not good at telling the lies.

 

[Auld Phart]

B Clinton lied, H Clinton lied, Gore lied, Pelosi lied, Schiff lied, Schumer lied.

You lose.

fake news, smokin' OP?

which of them didn't lie?

 

[BlindBoo]

Yet you lefty morons fully support the warmongers that lied us into that war: Hillary Clinton, the Bushes, Cheney, John Kerry, and yes…..Joe Biden too.


Ever since your warmonger was installed, Biden has gotten us into more stupid wars, like the US manufactured civil war in Ukraine, and now he is putting boots on the ground in Gaza so more US soldiers can get blown up by Islamic terrorists.

The vote was to allow Curious George the power to swiftly decide to use force if Saddam was found to had aided the 9-11 terrorist or if they poise a significant and immediate threat to the USA. Neither condition was met and not a peep out of those who voted to give GWB the power to decide.


SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) Presidential Determination.--In connection with the exercise of
the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President
shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible,
but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make
available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the
President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or
other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately
protect the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to
enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent
with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorist and
terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations,
or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements.--
(1) Specific statutory authorization.--Consistent with
section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress
declares that this section is intended to constitute specific
statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of
the War Powers Resolution.
(2) Applicability of other requirements.--Nothing in this
joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers
Resolution.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

No, we're not talking about the good old political truth stretching.
This is about blatant lying. Bald faced lying.

Lying has become the primary political tool of the GOP. The party will lie blatantly, lie in the face of provable fact, and lies constantly about EVERYTHING.

Yes, democrats lie to but it's the old fashioned "his mouth is open" lying. Far different from what we see in the GOP.

Personally I place the period when lying became a foundation part of the GOP as 2002-2003 during Bush' runup to his war in Iraq. Specifically, Bush's 2003 SOTU and Colin Powell's perjurious testimony on Iraq's WMD to the UN.

9/11 taught the GOP one thing. Fear is the most powerful electoral motivator and nothing motivates fear like lies.

So they
Pinned 9/11 on Iraq so the fear and anger could be transferred from the politically ineffective effort in Afghanistan to a hatred of Iraq.
Accused Iraq of having WMD when all reason and logic said they didn't.

From there the "slippery slope" into Trumpism became a gentle glide that will leave the party doomed to the trash heap of history.

.

You did a nice job of demonstrating how the GOP lies all the time, and how your Demonicrats don't.

 

[22lcidw]

The vote was to allow Curious George the power to swiftly decide to use force if Saddam was found to had aided the 9-11 terrorist or if they poise a significant and immediate threat to the USA. Neither condition was met and not a peep out of those who voted to give GWB the power to decide.


SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) Presidential Determination.--In connection with the exercise of
the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President
shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible,
but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make
available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the
President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or
other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately
protect the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to
enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent
with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorist and
terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations,
or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements.--
(1) Specific statutory authorization.--Consistent with
section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress
declares that this section is intended to constitute specific
statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of
the War Powers Resolution.
(2) Applicability of other requirements.--Nothing in this
joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers
Resolution.

That was from 9/11. We believed our government. We wised up and you did not.

 

[Dadoalex]

Not off topic. Democrats have always supported the wars. Obama got us into more dumb wars when he promised to get us out of the ME.

It was President Trump who drew down forces to 2500 in Iraq/Afghansitan and didn’t get us into any new dumb wars.

Thanks to President Trump, the GOP has been set straight on foreign policy, and voters now vote out neocon warmongers and instead elect America First people that support peace.

Meanwhile all the neocons have jumped fully onboard the Democrat Party since it is their only hope at endless wars.

Off topic and irrelevant.

 

[Auld Phart]

Off topic and irrelevant.

you're not replying the way I want.

 

[BlindBoo]

That was from 9/11. We believed our government. We wised up and you did not.

It was from Oct. 16, 2002. Ya'll got dumbed down even more. It was clear from GW's radio addresses before 2001 was over that the goal of the Bush Administration was to invade Iraq by morphing our outrage of 9-11 into support for the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[Dadoalex]

Are you kidding? I've never seen a bigger group of liars than this administration! They double down on lies even after they've been shown to be lies and they're not good at telling the lies.

Irrelevant and off topic.

 

[Billiejeens]

Irrelevant and off topic.

Why?

 

[BlindBoo]

It was President Trump who drew down forces to 2500 in Iraq/Afghansitan and didn’t get us into any new dumb wars.

Benedict Donald had nothing to do with the Iraqis forcing Bush to sign a SOFA in 2008 that had us leaving under Obama. He lied when he said the Afghanistan withdrawals were going to be conditional. Tell me which conditions besides the truce with the US and our NATO Allies did the Taliban comply with?

 

[Dadoalex]

You did a nice job of demonstrating how the GOP lies all the time, and how your Demonicrats don't.

I don't have any "demonicrats"

that's probably a figment of your tiny lying imagination.

 

[theHawk]

Benedict Donald had nothing to do with the Iraqis forcing Bush to sign a SOFA in 2008 that had us leaving under Obama. He lied when he said the Afghanistan withdrawals were going to be conditional. Tell me which conditions besides the truce with the US and our NATO Allies did the Taliban comply with?

I see you can’t refute my statement. Your rant is completely irrelevant and doesn’t change the facts.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

I don't have any "demonicrats"

that's probably a figment of your tiny lying imagination.

You did a nice job of demonstrating how the GOP lies all the time, and how your Demonicrats don't.

 

[BlindBoo]

I see you can’t refute my statement. Your rant is completely irrelevant and doesn’t change the facts.

Trump lied to the country and his base voters still believe him about his so called conditional withdrawal. He did order troop levels to 2,500 by Jan 15th 2021, but only after he Flip-Flopped on his order to completely abandon our Afghan Army allied by that same date didn't he? I think the Generals all threaten to resign over that order but all they said in their testimony was 'After further discussions....." Obama didn't start any new wars, nor did he launch a Bush style invasion or occupation of any country. He did increase the troops in Afghanistan for his failed surge, however.

You prove the OP's thesis.

 

[Dadoalex]

You did a nice job of demonstrating how the GOP lies all the time, and how your Demonicrats don't.

Saying the same thing over and over and expecting a difference response is a clear sign of MAGADUMIA

 

[BlindBoo]

I see you can’t refute my statement.

Trump had nothing to do with the Iraq Withdrawal.

In fact after ISIS threatened them, we were invited back in, and we're still there.

 

[Auld Phart]

Saying the same thing over and over and expecting a difference response is a clear sign of MAGADUMIA

Saying the same thing over and over and expecting a difference response is a clear sign of MAGADUMIA

you suffer from MAGADUMIA?

That explains a lot.