“If we need to take it, we’ll take it. (America) can’t stop us,”

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Spare_change, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. Spare_change
    Offline

    Spare_change Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,121
    Thanks Received:
    1,214
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +5,692
    China has agreed to return the US underwater drone its navy unlawfully seized in the South China Sea; however, it blames the U.S. for the incident.

    The Ministry of National Defense (MND) said Saturday that China will return the unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) that a People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) vessel stole from a U.S. naval oceanographic vessel operating in international waters Thursday.

    The MND said that the Chinese navy detected an “unidentified device” in the South China Sea. “In order to prevent the device from endangering the navigation safety and the safety of personnel aboard passing ships, the Chinese ship adopted a professional and responsible attitude and moved to identify and verify the device.”

    “After verification was completed, China decided to hand the device over to the U.S.,” MND spokesman Yang Yujun explained.

    “Through direct engagement with Chinese authorities, we have secured an understanding that the Chinese will return the UUV to the United States,” Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said.

    The Chinese defense ministry slammed Washington for “inappropriately” and “regrettably” hyping up the problem, arguing that such actions are “not conducive to smoothly resolving problems.”

    “It should be emphasized that the U.S. has for a long time been sending ships and planes into Chinese waters for reconnaissance purposes. China is firmly opposed to these activities and demands the U.S. stop immediately,” Yang asserted, “China will remain vigilant to U.S. activities and shall take necessary measures to respond.”

    The MND’s explanation does not appear to line up with the details of the incident, though.

    The Pentagon states that the drone was operating legally in international waters and was clearly marked as U.S. property.

    The UUV and the control ship, the USNS Bowditch, were working in an area about 50 miles from Subic Bay in the Philippines at the time of the seizure. Not only was the U.S. operating in international waters outside of China’s notorious nine-dashed line, a territorial demarcation which was discredited in July by an international arbitration tribunal, but the U.S. ship and drone were actually inside the Philippines Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).

    As China has no jurisdiction in the area where the incident occurred, there was no legal justification for the seizure or the shadowing of a U.S. vessel by the Chinese navy.

    Furthermore, the drone was conducting scientific research, not military or commercial surveillance, giving it protection under the provisions of international law.

    China appears to have violated international law, and the purpose was to send a message to both the current U.S. president and the incoming president.

    “If we need to take it, we’ll take it. (America) can’t stop us,” PLA Admiral Yang Yi told the Global Times.

    “If Trump and the U.S. government dare challenge China’s policy line and core interests … their heads will be broken and bleeding,” he explained, “This first round is important if we want them to learn to behave themselves.”

    A Chinese scholar at a state-sponsored think tank said that the era in which China bowed before the U.S. and humbly accepted humiliations is over.

    The next U.S. administration will face a more assertive China determined to reset and restructure international and legal norms to suit its rapidly expanding national interests.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    Given Obama's strong, firm response to this aggression, I'm sure the Chinese will think twice before they try something like this again!!

    What? You sure?

    Obama didn't say anything?

    The Pentagon ASKED for it back?

    Wow --- that's potent stuff, right there. That'll teach those Chinese! Next time, they'll probably get a really nasty email !
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  2. Onyx
    Offline

    Onyx Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    7,888
    Thanks Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    China can do whatever it wants. Neither state can win a war with the other, so both will avoid conflict at all costs. China could "accidentally" nuke Los Angeles, and the United States would still avoid going to war.
     
  3. shockedcanadian
    Offline

    shockedcanadian Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2012
    Messages:
    3,696
    Thanks Received:
    1,155
    Trophy Points:
    350
    Ratings:
    +5,105
    Trump needs to produce policies that impact them economically and rally other nations against them. If not, China will continue to expand and become a larger threat.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. Onyx
    Offline

    Onyx Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    7,888
    Thanks Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    The United States is hardly any better. People from other countries hardly give a fuck whether the US or China has global hegemony, as long as they are left alone.
     
  5. Tank
    Offline

    Tank Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Messages:
    17,346
    Thanks Received:
    2,287
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +8,868
    Hillary would have let them keep it
     
    • Funny and Agree!! Funny and Agree!! x 1
  6. Spare_change
    Offline

    Spare_change Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,121
    Thanks Received:
    1,214
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +5,692

    YOU are a dangerously deluded man ....
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Onyx
    Offline

    Onyx Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    7,888
    Thanks Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    So you believe that the US would declare war if they went the other direction? Like I said, China can do whatever it wants. The US is not going to do shit.
     
  8. Spare_change
    Offline

    Spare_change Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,121
    Thanks Received:
    1,214
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +5,692
    Scary, very scary ... I find your twisted, perverted view of the world to be very scary
     
  9. Onyx
    Offline

    Onyx Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    7,888
    Thanks Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    Stop talking shit and answer the question. Would the US declare war if China didn't return the missile?
     
  10. Manonthestreet
    Offline

    Manonthestreet Platinum Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2014
    Messages:
    16,240
    Thanks Received:
    5,894
    Trophy Points:
    420
    Ratings:
    +13,559
    Not just the US they will be facing........Don't know what they are playing at......If it's Taiwan I don't think they have the capacity to move a big enough invasion army......Nor do I think a Chinese blockade of Taiwan would stand.
     

Share This Page