If Trump has his property seized, he will seize the WH in 2024. Over 22,000 New Yorkers will be made unemployed.

[martybegan]

My concern is that the state is blue, and full of leftists. My hope is that they will overrule anyway because they know it would look bad for them to be overruled by SCOTUS.

If Trump's lawyers were smart they would only argue that the law was applied in a legally incorrect manner. As with it's use before, James should have gotten a criminal conviction, or a civil jury trial conviction.

 

[Baron]

Irrelevant.

Trump committed fraud.

Now his employees may be looking for another job.

He should apologize.

In comparison to Trump Joe is a King of Fraudsters but where is Ms. Jones?

 

[Richard-H]

New York will lose revenue as businesses move out of the state.

In the New York business world, Trump is insignificant.

If anything, most N.Y. businesspeople will be happy to see him go.

 

[Richard-H]

He will take this all the way to the Supreme Court if he has to.

This is a N.Y. State case. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Damn. How stupid are you libs?! Because those cases were all companies suing other companies, and none spend millions on lawyers when there are no damages.

See post 142.

Nope. He got better interest rates because the bank wanted his business and cut him a deal. They knew fully well the value of his properties. They made $100 million and wanted to do future loans. last thing they wanted was a lawsuit brought by the state government on a matter between two parties, in which everyone was happy.

He better interest rates because he lied.

Loanable money is finite.

Another business that was honest didn't get a loan or got worse rates because Trump lied.

What was done is typical in the real estate market, and as long as everyone meets their loan obligations, it’s all good. NOBODY has ever been charged on something like this before.

Show one person who overvalued their space by 2300 percent.

I think the lower court’s judgement will be overturned, with either the fine being reduced to $0 or to a small amount.

And if it doesn't, will you accept it or will you just parrot no victim and deep state like your media outlets push?

 

[martybegan]

This is a N.Y. State case. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction.

It can if he sues in Federal court saying the highest state appeals court ignored the obvious lack of due process in using the law used, with no criminal conviction, and no chance of even a civil jury trial.

 

[Richard-H]

Never been a case like this before. Selective prosecution for the purpose of election interference, and it will be tossed by the SCOTUS.

SCOTUS has no jurisdiction. This is a matter of N.Y. State law.

Sure, this is 'selective prosecution'. Everybody that runs for or holds public office puts themselves under a microscope. There are probably thousands of businesspeople in N.Y. that did the same thing as Trump. But they weren't stupid enough to run for public office.

Trump was an idiot for ever running for public office.

 

[Richard-H]

It can if he sues in Federal court saying the highest state appeals court ignored the obvious lack of due process in using the law used, with no criminal conviction, and no chance of even a civil jury trial.

Trump waived a jury trial.

His only hope is if Judge Cannon is on the appellate court!

 

[martybegan]

SCOTUS has no jurisdiction. This is a matter of N.Y. State law.

Sure, this is 'selective prosecution'. Everybody that runs for or holds public office puts themselves under a microscope. There are probably thousands of businesspeople in N.Y. that did the same thing as Trump. But they weren't stupid enough to run for public office.

Trump was an idiot for ever running for public office.

If a State law violates the US Federal Constitution, then the SC has all the reason to intervene it needs.

Do you realize what you are admitting to? Your fellow lefty fucks are going to get you kicked out of the Retard club.

 

[martybegan]

Trump waived a jury trial.

His only hope is if Judge Cannon is on the appellate court!

No he did not. The law as applied does not allow for a jury trial, because it was designed as a method of restitution/punishment for a person AFTER they were convicted of the underlying fraud.

 

[Richard-H]

If a State law violates the US Federal Constitution, then the SC has all the reason to intervene it needs.

Do you realize what you are admitting to? Your fellow lefty fucks are going to get you kicked out of the Retard club.

No. Trump put himself under the microscope by running for a public office. He only has himself to blame.

N.Y. State law doesn't violate the U.S. Constitution, dumbo. Nor does this civil case.

But keep grasping for straws - it's a real kick!

 

[martybegan]

No. Trump put himself under the microscope by running for a public office. He only has himself to blame.

N.Y. State law doesn't violate the U.S. Constitution, dumbo. Nor does this civil case.

But keep grasping for straws - it's a real kick!

That violates the entire concept of equal protection under the law, the basis of our system...

It didn't allow him a jury trial for a potential fine of $454 million dollars. Ever read the amendment in question?

 

[Richard-H]

No he did not. The law as applied does not allow for a jury trial, because it was designed as a method of restitution/punishment for a person AFTER they were convicted of the underlying fraud.

"Trump’s legal team absolutely could have requested a jury, litigated the issue, and then appealed had they lost.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/04/politics/trump-new-york-case-no-jury/index.html

Guess again, loser!

 

[Catsnmeters]

In comparison to Trump Joe is a King of Fraudsters but where is Ms. Jones?

This was the third time Trump was found guilty of fraud.

This thread isn't about Biden.

 

[surada]

it wasn't a trial, it was a summary sham judgement.

Bullshit.

âYou donât have a caseâ: NY judge âfuriousâ with Trumpâs lawyers

Trump appeared angry as his lawyer was "caught of guard" and seemed "frazzled" at the judge's harsh questions.

www.salon.com

 

[whitehall]

Health care facilities are going broke from illegal aliens, Americans citizens are being murdered and raped, Kids are dying from imported fentanyl and the NYC middle class might be unemployed because democrats hate Trump but they don't care. All they worry about is political power.

 

[justoffal]

So is the deadline 5 pm? i want to watch the next step in the Dems attempt to ruin NYC by driving successful business owners, who employ thousands, out of state.

The dog has now caught the car

 

[Blaster]

Health care facilities are going broke from illegal aliens, Americans citizens are being murdered and raped, Kids are dying from imported fentanyl and the NYC middle class might be unemployed because democrats hate Trump but they don't care. All they worry about is political power.

Many Rino Republicans support Democrats.

 

[Rawley]

My concern is that the state is blue, and full of leftists. My hope is that they will overrule anyway because they know it would look bad for them to be overruled by SCOTUS.

This precedent is a serious threat to the business community and the real estate development industry in NY in particular. One of the reasons big businesses headquarter in NY is the stability, depth and predictability of the law in the state. The Court knows that and will take it into account.

 

[22lcidw]

SCOTUS has no jurisdiction. This is a matter of N.Y. State law.

Sure, this is 'selective prosecution'. Everybody that runs for or holds public office puts themselves under a microscope. There are probably thousands of businesspeople in N.Y. that did the same thing as Trump. But they weren't stupid enough to run for public office.

Trump was an idiot for ever running for public office.

Its only that many elected politicians stink to high heaven and are not even investigated. Menendez should be gone. That may mean one less Prog until election day and we cannot have that. I can see how dictators come to power replacing dictators.