If Obamacare is so good

[thereisnospoon]

How odd, I disagree, but I still pay for both. That's how it works here.

That's how what works where?

Everywhere. Guns and butter little friend, guns and butter.

"Everywhere"....Free entertainment, you are.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That you have correct. Obamacare is nothing but a sneaky way to introduce single payer.
It's garbage government. Obama and the democrats fucked up.

They've only fucked up if it doesn't get them what they want...

No....Way to miss the point..
The Obama admin and the democrat supporters of all things Obama have shown that they cannot successfully implement something meant to affect just a little over one tenth the population. Americans will sit back and ask "if you guys cannot get a website to run properly, how in the world do you expect us to trust you with the health insurance of the entire country?"
....Why is single payer so important to you? What's in it for you?

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

 

[francoHFW]

ThaT'S BECAUSE dEMS CAN NEVER BELIEVE THE MINDLESS OBSTRUCTION OF pUBS, THE THIEVERY OF INSURERS, OR THE IGNORANCE OF HATER DUPES...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's how what works where?

Everywhere. Guns and butter little friend, guns and butter.

"Everywhere"....Free entertainment, you are.

Yes, everywhere that people pay taxes those taxes pay for things they like and things they don't.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Sure. It's all Concentration Camps and Obama Youth rallies. Got it...

Getting closer to that by the day. For the first time in US history you must purchase a product from the government that they have deemed in your best interest. If you don't then you are fined.

If that product goes against your religious beliefs well the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

If that product makes no economical sense and you can't afford it once again the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

And we don't need concentration camps per-se, we just need a government agency to hound you and take all of your belongings if you don't comply. I'm thinking something like the IRS would suit this purpose. All that agency needs is another 30 thousand or so to enforce it.

So the federal government is now in control of...

Your birth certificate.
Your SS identity.
Your education.
Your selective service.
Your college tuition.
Your labor.
Your employers benefits.
Your retirement funds.
Your healthcare.
Your unemployment.
Your food stamps.
Your religion.
Your states ability to govern.
Your child rearing.
Your school choice.
Your vehicle of choice.
The fuel you must use in that vehicle.
Your use of water on your property.
If you get to keep your property.
Your use of that property.
Your mortgage on that property.
Your insurance on that property.

Do I need to continue?

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

Let the dancing begin.....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Sure. It's all Concentration Camps and Obama Youth rallies. Got it...

Getting closer to that by the day. For the first time in US history you must purchase a product from the government that they have deemed in your best interest. If you don't then you are fined.

If that product goes against your religious beliefs well the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

If that product makes no economical sense and you can't afford it once again the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

And we don't need concentration camps per-se, we just need a government agency to hound you and take all of your belongings if you don't comply. I'm thinking something like the IRS would suit this purpose. All that agency needs is another 30 thousand or so to enforce it.

So the federal government is now in control of...

Your birth certificate.
Your SS identity.
Your education.
Your selective service.
Your college tuition.
Your labor.
Your employers benefits.
Your retirement funds.
Your healthcare.
Your unemployment.
Your food stamps.
Your religion.
Your states ability to govern.
Your child rearing.
Your school choice.
Your vehicle of choice.
The fuel you must use in that vehicle.
Your use of water on your property.
If you get to keep your property.
Your use of that property.
Your mortgage on that property.
Your insurance on that property.

Do I need to continue?

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

The feds are in charge of all I listed. Are you going to man up and defend any of them? Or just remain a **** looking for a government cock to suck?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Getting closer to that by the day. For the first time in US history you must purchase a product from the government that they have deemed in your best interest. If you don't then you are fined.

If that product goes against your religious beliefs well the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

If that product makes no economical sense and you can't afford it once again the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

And we don't need concentration camps per-se, we just need a government agency to hound you and take all of your belongings if you don't comply. I'm thinking something like the IRS would suit this purpose. All that agency needs is another 30 thousand or so to enforce it.

So the federal government is now in control of...

Your birth certificate.
Your SS identity.
Your education.
Your selective service.
Your college tuition.
Your labor.
Your employers benefits.
Your retirement funds.
Your healthcare.
Your unemployment.
Your food stamps.
Your religion.
Your states ability to govern.
Your child rearing.
Your school choice.
Your vehicle of choice.
The fuel you must use in that vehicle.
Your use of water on your property.
If you get to keep your property.
Your use of that property.
Your mortgage on that property.
Your insurance on that property.

Do I need to continue?

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

The feds are in charge of all I listed. Are you going to man up and defend any of them? Or just remain a **** looking for a government cock to suck?

Your list is nonsense. It shows a clear misunderstanding of the government and governing bodies. I'm not interested in helping out someone with your level of ignorance. It's not worth my time.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

They've only fucked up if it doesn't get them what they want...

No....Way to miss the point..
The Obama admin and the democrat supporters of all things Obama have shown that they cannot successfully implement something meant to affect just a little over one tenth the population. Americans will sit back and ask "if you guys cannot get a website to run properly, how in the world do you expect us to trust you with the health insurance of the entire country?"
....Why is single payer so important to you? What's in it for you?

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

So you want obiecare to fail as well although for a completely different reason.

You seem to think full government control of what they are completely fucking up now is going to be paradise. When in the real world we are telling you it will only get worse based upon facts and examples of others that have tried this system.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Getting closer to that by the day. For the first time in US history you must purchase a product from the government that they have deemed in your best interest. If you don't then you are fined.

If that product goes against your religious beliefs well the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

If that product makes no economical sense and you can't afford it once again the government doesn't give a fuck buy it anyway.

And we don't need concentration camps per-se, we just need a government agency to hound you and take all of your belongings if you don't comply. I'm thinking something like the IRS would suit this purpose. All that agency needs is another 30 thousand or so to enforce it.

So the federal government is now in control of...

Your birth certificate.
Your SS identity.
Your education.
Your selective service.
Your college tuition.
Your labor.
Your employers benefits.
Your retirement funds.
Your healthcare.
Your unemployment.
Your food stamps.
Your religion.
Your states ability to govern.
Your child rearing.
Your school choice.
Your vehicle of choice.
The fuel you must use in that vehicle.
Your use of water on your property.
If you get to keep your property.
Your use of that property.
Your mortgage on that property.
Your insurance on that property.

Do I need to continue?

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

Let the dancing begin.....

No dancing is required. He might as well have said the Easter Bunny was in charge of all that.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

The feds are in charge of all I listed. Are you going to man up and defend any of them? Or just remain a **** looking for a government cock to suck?

Your list is nonsense. It shows a clear misunderstanding of the government and governing bodies. I'm not interested in helping out someone with your level of ignorance. It's not worth my time.

Based on your ignorance I'm thinking you have all the time in the world. Take them down one by one you oh so intelligent poster.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No....Way to miss the point..
The Obama admin and the democrat supporters of all things Obama have shown that they cannot successfully implement something meant to affect just a little over one tenth the population. Americans will sit back and ask "if you guys cannot get a website to run properly, how in the world do you expect us to trust you with the health insurance of the entire country?"
....Why is single payer so important to you? What's in it for you?

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

So you want obiecare to fail as well although for a completely different reason.

You seem to think full government control of what they are completely fucking up now is going to be paradise. When in the real world we are telling you it will only get worse based upon facts and examples of others that have tried this system.

Single-Payer system work all over the world, even here. You don't want them too but they do. As long as you oppose them on ideology you are being unrealistic so there's no reason to debate. In the Real World, they work, and that scares you just like all change probably does.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

Let the dancing begin.....

No dancing is required. He might as well have said the Easter Bunny was in charge of all that.

Isn't there a lot of Easter Bunny (interesting choice since you hate religion), fairy tales, unicorns and magic elves involved in your government controlled dream?

Reality and math don't seem to be your thing so maybe it's some magical fairy dust we can't see that is going to make this work.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Reality and math don't seem to be your thing...

You are free to try and show us where I've gotten either wrong? No one has been able to so far but knock yourself out.

 

[thereisnospoon]

They've only fucked up if it doesn't get them what they want...

No....Way to miss the point..
The Obama admin and the democrat supporters of all things Obama have shown that they cannot successfully implement something meant to affect just a little over one tenth the population. Americans will sit back and ask "if you guys cannot get a website to run properly, how in the world do you expect us to trust you with the health insurance of the entire country?"
....Why is single payer so important to you? What's in it for you?

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

You can go on believing that if it makes you feel better.
In any event, if one were to talk to anyone associated with Obamacare and claim that it is a precursor to single payer and expect that answer to be made public, they would categorically deny any such thing.
The fact is, that Obamacare IS in fact at least in the eyes of democrats a path to socialized medicine.
The good part is universal health insurance is NOT possible here.
Why you people insist on this pipe dream is a mystery.
Why is it you expect your health insurance to be paid for by someone other than yourself?
What gives you cause to have such an expectation?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The fact is, that Obamacare IS in fact at least in the eyes of democrats a path to socialized medicine.

That's correct, and who pays for it is all of us. The money is already being spent, it just needs to be moved around to cover everyone and get a better bang for our buck.

 

[thereisnospoon]

We all have healthcare? That's interesting, because many tens of millions here don't. What's your planet called? I might want to visit?

Yes. Health care....
You and the rest of your left wing minions are clearly unable to distinguish the difference between health care( it's TWO WORDS.Not one) and health INSURANCE.

Healthcare can be one or two words, it depends upon its usage And your semantics on Insurance is noted.

It is not semantics.
Health care and health insurance are two different things.
Only the far left wing narrative has attempted them to mean the same thing. The far left MUST create this perception. The idea is to convince as many people as possible that they cannot survive without health insurance. So, they label it "healthcare" in the hopes people can be hoodwinked into the narrative.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

So you want obiecare to fail as well although for a completely different reason.

You seem to think full government control of what they are completely fucking up now is going to be paradise. When in the real world we are telling you it will only get worse based upon facts and examples of others that have tried this system.

Single-Payer system work all over the world, even here. You don't want them too but they do. As long as you oppose them on ideology you are being unrealistic so there's no reason to debate. In the Real World, they work, and that scares you just like all change probably does.

The reason you're here on this site is to debate asshole. Bring some fucking facts and prove your point this isn't the fucking huffington post. Bring me facts to support your position or go down in flames as just another asshole we need to ignore.

Where in the real world is this actually working? Cuba? Venezuela? The fucking Congo? Show me where this is actually working. Show me how this system of single payer is actually producing new medical advances, show me how the people are actually getting more health care for the money spent in these systems.

In other words stop being a fucking ****. Prove your stance. That's debate on a forum built on debate. If you can't handle that then crawl back into your socialist hole and die.

 

[thereisnospoon]

They've only fucked up if it doesn't get them what they want...

No....Way to miss the point..
The Obama admin and the democrat supporters of all things Obama have shown that they cannot successfully implement something meant to affect just a little over one tenth the population. Americans will sit back and ask "if you guys cannot get a website to run properly, how in the world do you expect us to trust you with the health insurance of the entire country?"
....Why is single payer so important to you? What's in it for you?

The health of the nation.

And I missed nothing. You think Obamacare failing is a problem? It isn't since there is a far better solution, that will be the only workable one left by then. Got it now?

And the government has run healthcare, in one form or another, for seven decades now. Websites are rather new to them in comparison.

Oh....you did not answer the questions put to you.
Why have you evaded those questions?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Don't continue, just try to get at least a few of those right, most of which you haven't. We have a lot of Governing Bodies here. It's not just the Feds.

The feds are in charge of all I listed. Are you going to man up and defend any of them? Or just remain a **** looking for a government cock to suck?

Your list is nonsense. It shows a clear misunderstanding of the government and governing bodies. I'm not interested in helping out someone with your level of ignorance. It's not worth my time.

Ahh...The old dismissal of the facts you don't like.
Yeah well tough shit.
The examples above are all within the federal purview.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Reality and math don't seem to be your thing...

You are free to try and show us where I've gotten either wrong? No one has been able to so far but knock yourself out.

Yeah, don't use my whole quote, that would make you look like an idiot. And still nothing from you to support your point.

Provide something to support your stance now or fuck off.