If Obamacare is so good

[Gadawg73]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

 

[Pop23]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

The Heritage Foundation does not have that kind of power.

 

[Pop23]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

So it was because one demographic decide not to participate that was the problem?

Correct?

 

[Rozman]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

And where are the 48 million people that Obama said needed coverage....
The situation seemed so desperate to get these folks covered....

Yet it seems they are no where to be found...
Could it be Obama lied in order to sell his crowning achievement....

 

[Gadawg73]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

Yes, I am sure The Heritage Foundation is a supporter of the Free Ride Problem.
Folks that support it wear a D on their caps.

 

[Gadawg73]

Tax payer subsidies for someone that owns a million dollar house free and clear should not get a free ride on their government subsidized health insurance.
Speaking of free rides.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

Yes, I am sure The Heritage Foundation is a supporter of the Free Ride Problem.
Folks that support it wear a D on their caps.

The Free Rider problem is why their proposal made it Mandatory. There's a reason for that, now what might that be?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...nservative-history-of-the-individual-mandate/

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

Look at it this way. Obiecare is so damn good the only people buying it had to be kicked off their old plans involuntarily and forced into it! If they had their choice they would be on their old plans. Those without insurance before still don't have any. The only future customers obiecare has to look forward to are the next round of people that are forced off their existing plans.

Obiecare, so damn good the only way people will buy it is by force and even then only after all competition or options are eliminated from the market, It sells itself!

 

[Gadawg73]

It's called the Free Rider problem. The Heritage Foundation solved it, by making health insurance mandatory. Now why would they do such a thing?

Yes, I am sure The Heritage Foundation is a supporter of the Free Ride Problem.
Folks that support it wear a D on their caps.

The Free Rider problem is why their proposal made it Mandatory. There's a reason for that, now what might that be?

Just because the law says it is mandatory does not fix the "Free Ride Problem".

You really believe that? Evidence says differently as states that expanded Medicaid ER visits are up.
ACA is a massive failure. Good intentions never fix free ride problems.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, I am sure The Heritage Foundation is a supporter of the Free Ride Problem.
Folks that support it wear a D on their caps.

The Free Rider problem is why their proposal made it Mandatory. There's a reason for that, now what might that be?

Just because the law says it is mandatory does not fix the "Free Ride Problem".

You really believe that? Evidence says differently as states that expanded Medicaid ER visits are up.
ACA is a massive failure. Good intentions never fix free ride problems.

There's a Free Rider problem with Taxes, which support the Government, which benefits everyone. The fix was easy, we make you to pay them.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Where do those without health insurance receive medical care?

Who pays for the medical treatment received by those without health insurance?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Where do those without health insurance receive medical care?

Who pays for the medical treatment received by those without health insurance?

Yep, that's the problem alright.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Where do those without health insurance receive medical care?

Who pays for the medical treatment received by those without health insurance?

Yep, that's the problem alright.

And the answer is, we do.

 

[healthmyths]

Then why do they need a law forcing folks to buy it?

And where are the 48 million people that Obama said needed coverage....
The situation seemed so desperate to get these folks covered....

Yet it seems they are no where to be found...
Could it be Obama lied in order to sell his crowning achievement....

Obamacare was passed by just 7 votes in the House. NOT ONE GOP voted for it and 39 Democrats did not vote for it!

And it would have NEVER passed if plain simple common arithmetic was used!

A) 10 million of the Census 46 million uninsured BY the Census are not citizens.
Yet they were counted as part of the 46 million that was used to get a big number and the attention that brought.
Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

B) 14 million when asked by Census "are you insured" said "no" YET
the Census didn't seem to know these 14 million were eligible under Medicaid rules BEFORE ACA...
so why were these 14 million counted as "uninsured"? Inflate the number!
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

C) 18 million people were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured.. THAT DIDN"T WANT insurance as they were under 34 .
They had no need need!
if they did want they could afford as the make over $50,000,
but they spent out of pocket for health services LESS then the premium of their employers' health plans.
YET they were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured. WHY were people that didn't NEED, Didn't WANT health insurance counted???
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

These 42 million that were bogusly counted as part of the 46 million should NEVER have been a part of that number.

The true number is less then 4 million that want, that need health insurance... NOT the phony 46 million.

And as far as the "6 million" supposedly now covered???
“When we break down the numbers a little bit more, this includes more than 2.1 million people who’ve enrolled in private plans through the federal and state-based marketplaces since October 1st and
3.9 million Americans who learned that they’re eligible for coverage through Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, also known as CHIP, in October and November.”
Warning: Ignore claims that 3.9 million people signed up for Medicaid because of Obamacare

3.9 million LEARNED????
GO back and look again at what the CENSUS SAID ABOUT THE 14 million!!!

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”

Do people understand this?? Obama et.al. even conservatives are counting people who according to the census and NOW according to
ACA were already eligible! 14 million!

Folks subtract 10 million illegals, 14 million ALREADY Eligible for Medicaid and 18 million that don't WANT leaves 4 million that truly needed
and wanted health insurance!
There WAS NO NEED to destroy our health system to cover 4 million!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Where do those without health insurance receive medical care?

Who pays for the medical treatment received by those without health insurance?

Yep, that's the problem alright.

And the answer is, we do.

Sucks to be you eh, picking up the bills of others. I wonder if there's a solution to that?

 

[Pop23]

Yep, that's the problem alright.

And the answer is, we do.

Sucks to be you eh, picking up the bills of others. I wonder if there's a solution to that?

As in subsidies? Free riding still exists?

 

[boedicca]

If ObamaCare is so good, then why has Obama handed out so many exemptions and made so many delays?

And why can't he tell us how many people have actually PAID FOR COVERAGE?

 

[Pop23]

If ObamaCare is so good, then why has Obama handed out so many exemptions and made so many delays?

And why can't he tell us how many people have actually PAID FOR COVERAGE?

He should also add how many of the total were previously covered.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And the answer is, we do.

Sucks to be you eh, picking up the bills of others. I wonder if there's a solution to that?

As in subsidies? Free riding still exists?

Maybe we should fix that eh?