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He cut deals with Big Pharma
oh , guess that one does not fit the left's template
So now we will be forced to carry a cronies product.
FOR THE COMMON GOOD!!!
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He cut deals with Big Pharma
oh , guess that one does not fit the left's template
Obama sadly couldnt lead people out of a paper bag.
Since he's done it, and is doing it, you have your obese lips around corporate ball sacks. So which side of Romney is he planning on trying to lead, not that he has a chance of winning.
When has he done or started doing it?
Do I think he would be as good as Obama?
Obama is Bush without the wars and executive experience but more confusion and ineptness.
not by a longshot. though i know the right likes saying it.
this president's biggest mistake was in not finding his er... cojones until three years into his presidency.
unlike bush, who was dumb as toast and never thought twice about ramming his agenda down people's throats.... obama actually, until recently, thought the schoolyard bullies would play nice with him if he compromised. i hoped they would, too, fwiw.
so please, i'm begging, tell me what's moderate about him? (other than the fact that he has no ideology of his own).
Obama is Bush without the wars and executive experience but more confusion and ineptness.
not by a longshot. though i know the right likes saying it.
this president's biggest mistake was in not finding his er... cojones until three years into his presidency.
unlike bush, who was dumb as toast and never thought twice about ramming his agenda down people's throats.... obama actually, until recently, thought the schoolyard bullies would play nice with him if he compromised. i hoped they would, too, fwiw.
Thats the biggest load of crap i've heard on this board today.
Obama NEVER tried to compromise. He never even entertained it.
Obamacare was his way or the high way.
He didn't give the Republicans jack squat in the debt ceiling debate. Not a single solitary actual cut in government.
Never one actually considered supporting the Keystone Pipeline.
Has never attempted to compromise on a budget.
Yeah. big compromise there.
Romney does not have the experience as a "community organizer". That is unacceptable
Yaawwnn, your memory of the Bush fuckups is faulty. You might want to look at your own. It wasn't only Bush, it was Palin, McCain, your current crop of crazies.
Nobody ever said Obama never has a moment but he is certainly very intelligent. You can't say that about many Republican presidents of recent years. They're really empty suits.
And empty heads.
so please, i'm begging, tell me what's moderate about him? (other than the fact that he has no ideology of his own).
If you say that a guy has no ideology, he is a pragmatist, not an extremist ideologue.
The idea that he is beholden to conservative extremists is pretty odd given that conservatives rotated to just about anyone with a pulse in the primaries other than Romney, and Romney won in spite of them.
Romney wouldn't be a bad president....just sayin'
Which means he will do whatever he has o in order to pay back the same people who think forcing women to have internal sonograms is ok.
And his idea of pragmatic seems to be more of the same as bush II
And just to respond to your comment about the president having no executive experience... That was true first time around. And he'd have lost then b/c of it except that a) the tweeting twit terrified people; and b) the economy melted down.
It's a little bit of a strawman at this point.
And I don't think a failed executive who is going to engage in the same failures as the last GOP'er is an improvement.
And it's clear we don't and won't agree on this. My focus tends to be law and the justices a president will appoint as well as policies which affect middle class interests. Particularly education and governmental employees. Yours are those which benefit an under-regulated financial market.
Obama is Bush without the wars and executive experience but more confusion and ineptness.
not by a longshot. though i know the right likes saying it.
this president's biggest mistake was in not finding his er... cojones until three years into his presidency.
unlike bush, who was dumb as toast and never thought twice about ramming his agenda down people's throats.... obama actually, until recently, thought the schoolyard bullies would play nice with him if he compromised. i hoped they would, too, fwiw.
If you're a Democrat, you think Obama has reached out to Republicans. If you are a Republican, you think Obama is ramming his agenda down the other side's throat.
If you're a Republican, you think Bush reached out to Democrats. If you are a Democrat, you think Bush rammed his agenda down the other side's throat.
If you're an Independent, you think both parties are playing to their bases, and both are dividing the country by being obstinate and rigid.
You realize that Bush was in office for 8 years, not just the last two months of 2008, right?Bush era policies, like 5% unemployment, real GDP growth, and lower taxes? The horrors!
Oh fuck yes. Let us go back to the Bush era. 750,000 jobs a month going down the drain. Conducting a couple of wars off of the books, then blame whomever follows and puts them on the books.
You realize that Bush was in office for 8 years, not just the last two months of 2008, right?Oh fuck yes. Let us go back to the Bush era. 750,000 jobs a month going down the drain. Conducting a couple of wars off of the books, then blame whomever follows and puts them on the books.
You do realize that the Iraq war was going on long before the last 2 months of 2008?
Do I think he would be as good as Obama? I dunno. But I don't think the US would go to hell in a handbasket if he got the nod.
I also think he is less polarising than Bush and Obama..
Might find some common ground. What helps is that he actually not the ideal candidate for die hard republicans and conservatives...so there is that...
He could even border on being a RINO...
Oh good grief. What would you think of him as president with a Republican House and Senate?
What has gotten into you Grump?
not by a longshot. though i know the right likes saying it.
this president's biggest mistake was in not finding his er... cojones until three years into his presidency.
unlike bush, who was dumb as toast and never thought twice about ramming his agenda down people's throats.... obama actually, until recently, thought the schoolyard bullies would play nice with him if he compromised. i hoped they would, too, fwiw.
If you're a Democrat, you think Obama has reached out to Republicans. If you are a Republican, you think Obama is ramming his agenda down the other side's throat.
If you're a Republican, you think Bush reached out to Democrats. If you are a Democrat, you think Bush rammed his agenda down the other side's throat.
If you're an Independent, you think both parties are playing to their bases, and both are dividing the country by being obstinate and rigid.
Let's see. One of Bush's signature legislative achievments was no Child Left Behind. Who wrote that work? Yes, Ted Kennedy. Which one of Obama's bills was written by a Republican?
How many of Bush's bills passed with large support from Democrats?
How many of Obama's bills passed with large support from Republicans?
No, I think we see who the team player is and who the partisan hack is.
Obama now has executive experience and it shows that he has none before. There is little reason to expect him to be much better at it the second time around.
I actually think