Hobby Lobby may close all of its stores

[Crackerjaxon]

More american jobs, and an american company destroyed by Obama and his marxist policies.









>> By David Green, the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.
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>> When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames.. Our first retail store wasn't much bigger than most people's living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God's word.
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>> From there, Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation's largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.
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>> We're Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I've always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God's laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that's what we've tried to do. We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our stores closed on Sundays, one of the week's biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest.
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>> We believe that it is by God's grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and our employees. We've not only added jobs in a weak economy, we've raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80% above minimum wage.
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>> But now, our government threatens to change all of that.
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>> A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance. Being Christians, we don't pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don't cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs.
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>> It goes against the Biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one.
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>> If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million PER DAY in government fines.
>> Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy.
>> Our government threatens to fine a company that's raised wages four years running.
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>> Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It's not right. I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it's the same for everybody. But that's not true.
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>> The government has exempted thousands of companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won't exempt them for reasons of religious belief.
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>> So, Hobby Lobby and my family are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit today, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business. We don't like to go running into court, but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.
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>> My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult.
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>> The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that's a choice no American and no American business should have to make.
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>> The government cannot force you to follow laws that go against your fundamental religious belief. They have exempted thousands of companies but will not except Christian organizations including the Catholic church.
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>> Since you will not see this in the liberal media, please pass this on to all your contacts.
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>> Sincerely,
>> David Green
>> CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

Personally, I don't agree in the least bit with the gov't forcing businesses to provide contraception. I think businesses aught to, but that's their choice - not mine.

However, I'd consider it a touch irresponsible for him to sacrifice everything over not complying. He literally has thousands of families relying on him for a paycheck.

Again, not his fault for the situation at hand (which I believe is shitty and an overreach of gov't power), but it would be his fault for throwing the business away over a matter of stubborn principle.

Just my two cents.

Not sure why any company has to provide viagra or birth control to its employees.

I don't think he's going to roll over.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Exactly -- these rubes will buy anything.

Again you dont know know god fearing christians like I do. he willl shut it down.

Anyone who "fears" God is not a real "Christian" -- well, unless they're still in third grade and believe in Santa Clause and Lucifer -- adults who "fear" god lack emotional maturity and critical thinking skills... and shop at Hobby Lobby apparently.

But most real Christian know the stories in the bible teach us an ideal, a moral code of compassion and love. The archaic rules and customs of the old testament written 4000 years ago are meant to be taken with a grain a salt and an understanding of historical context.

The only thing you know about Christians is that you aren't one. Please don't embarrass yourself any further with your ludicrous theological ramblings.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

No, it's about not being overtaken by the chaos of every individual demanding to be a government unto himself.

It is the rightful role of government in this country to regulate business. If one cannot accept the laws of the land that have been established to regulate business,

then one should consider not running a business, or moving to someplace where one can run one's business as one pleases.

I want the Jewish deli down the street to serve me a ham sandwich.

Make 'em do it, mommy.

You're an idiot. This is not about what a business chooses to sell. This is about a business complying with the law.

My, another brainless attempt at rejoinder. Read it again, this time without moving your lips, and try to understand the ramifications of forcing people to go against their religious beliefs. I know it will be difficult for you. Perhaps you could get your mom to help you.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Personally, I don't agree in the least bit with the gov't forcing businesses to provide contraception. I think businesses aught to, but that's their choice - not mine.

However, I'd consider it a touch irresponsible for him to sacrifice everything over not complying. He literally has thousands of families relying on him for a paycheck.

Again, not his fault for the situation at hand (which I believe is shitty and an overreach of gov't power), but it would be his fault for throwing the business away over a matter of stubborn principle.

Just my two cents.

The bolded is actually what makes him the strong principled person he is if he follows through. If your willing to drop your principles for any reason, be that money, fame...anything really, then you didn't have any principles to begin with.

A lesser person would do exactly as you suggest and just go along and drop his beliefs because that would just be easier. A strong person with a lot to lose stands up and stands firm in his beliefs.

 

[Mr Natural]

Some people take this religion business way too seriously.

 

[blackhawk]

Wow the liberal concern for those hard working middle class Americans who would be out of a job if Hobby Lobby closes is truly underwhelming.

 

[KevinWestern]

Personally, I don't agree in the least bit with the gov't forcing businesses to provide contraception. I think businesses aught to, but that's their choice - not mine.

However, I'd consider it a touch irresponsible for him to sacrifice everything over not complying. He literally has thousands of families relying on him for a paycheck.

Again, not his fault for the situation at hand (which I believe is shitty and an overreach of gov't power), but it would be his fault for throwing the business away over a matter of stubborn principle.

Just my two cents.

The bolded is actually what makes him the strong principled person he is if he follows through. If your willing to drop your principles for any reason, be that money, fame...anything really, then you didn't have any principles to begin with.

A lesser person would do exactly as you suggest and just go along and drop his beliefs because that would just be easier. A strong person with a lot to lose stands up and stands firm in his beliefs.

Not a discussion of money, fame.

It's putting thousands out of work because you refuse to include BC pills in your insurance plan.

Sorry, the situation sucks. And to reiterate, I don't agree with it.

But his decision affects a lot more people than just himself, and sometimes you have to put others first.

 

[Vox]

Repeating - guys, WHAT ARE YOU STILL talking about?



Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate

Today, a federal court granted Hobby Lobby a preliminary injunction against the HHS abortion-drug mandate. The injunction prevents the Obama administration from enforcing the mandate against the Christian company, which does not want to be compelled to pay for birth control or drugs that may cause abortions.
Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate | LifeNews.com

it was done in July - the OP article is from March

 

[whitehall]

Never heard of it but if they made solar panels for doll houses maybe they could have qualified for a bailout from the Hussein administration.

 

[Mr Natural]

Wow the liberal concern for those hard working middle class Americans who would be out of a job if Hobby Lobby closes is truly underwhelming.

And if a rational, thinking person owned that company, those hard working middle class Americans wouldn't be fearing for their jobs.

 

[Vox]

Some people take this religion business way too seriously.

and it is neither up to you, nor obama administration to decide is it serious or not.

The Constitution protects THEM, not YOU and obama administration ( on this matter)

 

[ShootSpeeders]

That big-eared ape in our WH is a psychopath. He hates all whites and all christians. Black and muslim is his universe.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Repeating - guys, WHAT ARE YOU STILL talking about?



Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate

Today, a federal court granted Hobby Lobby a preliminary injunction against the HHS abortion-drug mandate. The injunction prevents the Obama administration from enforcing the mandate against the Christian company, which does not want to be compelled to pay for birth control or drugs that may cause abortions.
Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate | LifeNews.com

it was done in July - the OP article is from March

I think most people know that but the case is still hanging out there and will likely go the SCOTUS so it's not entirely stomped into the ground yet as far as I know.

 

[blackhawk]

Wow the liberal concern for those hard working middle class Americans who would be out of a job if Hobby Lobby closes is truly underwhelming.

And if a rational, thinking person owned that company, those hard working middle class Americans wouldn't be fearing for their jobs.

The company has been around for 40 years that generally doesn't happen if the person running it is not rational.

 

[Vox]

Repeating - guys, WHAT ARE YOU STILL talking about?



Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate

Today, a federal court granted Hobby Lobby a preliminary injunction against the HHS abortion-drug mandate. The injunction prevents the Obama administration from enforcing the mandate against the Christian company, which does not want to be compelled to pay for birth control or drugs that may cause abortions.
Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate | LifeNews.com

it was done in July - the OP article is from March

I think most people know that but the case is still hanging out there and will likely go the SCOTUS so it's not entirely stomped into the ground yet as far as I know.

ALL similar cases in SCOTUS were always a win-win situation for the religious side - 9-0 almost every time.

It is the clearest 1st Amendment case possible.

I am too lazy to search the web for the links, but there was a good article about it, listing all of the previous cases ( with some current justices).

 

[Katzndogz]

Hobby Lobby owes their emploees zip. Nothing. The whole family of owners can close up and retire to Costa Rica. Is freedom of religion worth liquidating the company? Yes.

If enough companies close and fire everyone working for them maybe liberals will get the message.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

This would hardly be a blip on US economy but could do serious damage to a lot of Chinese factories and factory workers.

Businesses that are well managed are doing well as our economy continues to improve. Shame on this phony christian jerk for blaming President Obama for he himself did and is now lying about. No one suggested that any business pay for contraceptives. But, if a company chooses to make part of an employee's pay insurance coverage, should they have the right to pick and choose what that person's coverage is?

What about when the fatso needs diabetes supplies and "christian" Hobby lobby believes that person should lose weight instead? Or the employee gets lung cancer and Hobby Lobby knows he smokes?

Just how much control over our lives should your employer have?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Repeating - guys, WHAT ARE YOU STILL talking about?



Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate

Today, a federal court granted Hobby Lobby a preliminary injunction against the HHS abortion-drug mandate. The injunction prevents the Obama administration from enforcing the mandate against the Christian company, which does not want to be compelled to pay for birth control or drugs that may cause abortions.
Hobby Lobby Wins Injunction Stopping Enforcement of HHS Mandate | LifeNews.com

it was done in July - the OP article is from March

I think most people know that but the case is still hanging out there and will likely go the SCOTUS so it's not entirely stomped into the ground yet as far as I know.

ALL similar cases in SCOTUS were always a win-win situation for the religious side - 9-0 almost every time.

It is the clearest 1st Amendment case possible.

I am too lazy to search the web for the links, but there was a good article about it, listing all of the previous cases ( with some current justices).

I hope so but after watching the Roberts pretzel trick over the individual mandate forgive me for not feeling all that confident in them.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Some people take this religion business way too seriously.

This has nothing to do with religion.

That's just a convenient out for some very unprincipled actions.

 

[Vox]

I think most people know that but the case is still hanging out there and will likely go the SCOTUS so it's not entirely stomped into the ground yet as far as I know.

ALL similar cases in SCOTUS were always a win-win situation for the religious side - 9-0 almost every time.

It is the clearest 1st Amendment case possible.

I am too lazy to search the web for the links, but there was a good article about it, listing all of the previous cases ( with some current justices).

I hope so but after watching the Roberts pretzel trick over the individual mandate forgive me for not feeling all that confident in them.

yep, that was and still is quite unexpected.