Here they go, Again. Tit waiting for Tat

[JStone]

It is Israel's war. It can stop it whenever it wants.

Israel Faces a Culture of Hatred and Violence

The grisly trail of broken toys and bloodied bedclothes and carpets inside the family home led to the bodies. They lay in their own blood, all knifed to death: Ruth Fogel, the 35-year-old mother; Udi, 36, the father; their 11-year-old son, Yoav; their 4-year-old son, Elad; and Hadas, their baby. Hadas was just three months old. Her throat had been cut by the terrorist butchers who this month broke into the Fogel home in Itamar on a remote hilltop settlement in the West Bank. Yoav was killed as he read in bed.

Their every name should be remembered. They died because they were Jews. They were victims not just of the butchers, whose foul crimes Hamas celebrated in Gaza by giving out candy to children. They were also victims of the incitements to kill a Jew that the people of Israel have to live with every day, so many of them with memories of mothers and fathers and grandmothers and grandfathers who perished in Nazi death camps.

Professor Fouad Ajami, one of the great scholars of the Middle East, put it as follows after an earlier massacre: "The suicide bomber of the Passover massacre did not descend from the sky; he walked straight out of the culture of incitement let loose on the land, a menace hovering over Israel, a great Palestinian and Arab refusal to let that country be, to cede it a place among the nations. He partook of the culture all around him—the glee [that] greets those brutal deeds of terror, the cult that rises around the martyrs and their families."

This is a culture where sermons legitimize violence in the name of Islam and have shaped generations of Arabs with what writer Eli Hertz calls "a steady diet of poison-filled propaganda." Hertz writes: "For non-Arabic speakers, it is hard to grasp just how pervasive the propaganda is in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority and throughout the Arab world. It is omnipresent: in state-controlled media outlets, in schools and mosques, at rallies, in speeches and articles." Professor Bernard Lewis, the great academic authority on Islam, has said that if the West knew what was being said in Arabic, people would be horrified

Israel Faces a Culture of Hatred and Violence - US News and World Report

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.

 

[docmauser1]

Here they go, Again. Tit waiting for Tat

That's what palistanians do - it's their full-time occupation and they enjoy it. Rather pathetic, though.

I agree. There needs to be momentum on their side. Momentum to create a group that speaks for all of the Palestinians able to negotiate as a Palestinian entity. Israel will be a partner to peace. There is not a doubt.

Cool wishful drivel, of course, Salam Now, rattling cages in Ramallah and the Gaza city! Been there, heard that, got "Jihad With A Smiley" t-shirt. That There needs to be momentum on their side is a special quackery, of course, like "there needs to be skinny dipping".

Egypt and Jordan are proof that Israel can make and keep a peace.

A peace? Well, while Egypt is a more or less known Carter's pet peace project, the Jordanian one's a little obscure, but - Washington waived around $700 mln. in debt relief to the sorry kingdom ( $400 mln. accounting-wise) between 1994 and 1995, after the signing of the peace treaty with Israel. In 1997 the Congress increased aid to Jordan to $150 mln. in economic and $75 mln. in military aid. In 1999 and 2000, the Congress allocated additional $200 mln. in military assistance and $100 mln. in economic assistance as part of the Wye Agreement. It's 2011 now. Coool.

 

[JStone]

Jos

Puta, not one waits for Muslima tits since allah sanctions adult breast-feeding
Islam and The Nursing of Adults

 

[AmericanFirst]

Israeli aggression noted

Go Israel, kick the satan worshipers out of your country.

 

[JStone]

It is Israel's war. It can stop it whenever it wants.

Arabs and muslimes are peace-loving people

Iran Iraq War, 1 million dead
Lebanese Civil War, 250,000 dead
Algerian Civl War: 300,000 dead
Bangladesh Civil War: 500,000 dead
Black Sept., Jordan's King Hussein murders, expells 80,000 Palestinians
Syrian army kills 20,000 Syrians at Hama
Iraq gases hundreds of thousands of Kurds
300 US Marines killed in Beirut
1400 year conflict between Sunnis and Shiites
Fratricide between Hamas and Fatah
Syria/Hizballah assassinate Lebanese PM Rafik Hariri

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is Israel's war. It can stop it whenever it wants.

War takes 2 sides and it can surely end as soon as the palestinians stop thier terrorist ways. If they show they truely want peace the world will stand with them at the negotiating table.

It was the Zionists who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over the country.

The Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

 

[JStone]

It is Israel's war. It can stop it whenever it wants.

War takes 2 sides and it can surely end as soon as the palestinians stop thier terrorist ways. If they show they truely want peace the world will stand with them at the negotiating table.

It was the Zionists who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over the country.

The Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans to rename Israel and erase the 1000 year Jewish identity of the Jewish homeland, monkey

University of Southern California History

Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt.

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back

When the Romans occupied Judaea, the historic Jewish land from which "Jew" is derived, they minted "Judaea Capta" coins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaea_Capta_coinage

 

[Ropey]

That's what palistanians do - it's their full-time occupation and they enjoy it. Rather pathetic, though.

I agree. There needs to be momentum on their side. Momentum to create a group that speaks for all of the Palestinians able to negotiate as a Palestinian entity. Israel will be a partner to peace. There is not a doubt.

Cool wishful drivel, of course, Salam Now, rattling cages in Ramallah and the Gaza city! Been there, heard that, got "Jihad With A Smiley" t-shirt. That There needs to be momentum on their side is a special quackery, of course, like "there needs to be skinny dipping".

Egypt and Jordan are proof that Israel can make and keep a peace.

A peace? Well, while Egypt is a more or less known Carter's pet peace project, the Jordanian one's a little obscure, but - Washington waived around $700 mln. in debt relief to the sorry kingdom ( $400 mln. accounting-wise) between 1994 and 1995, after the signing of the peace treaty with Israel. In 1997 the Congress increased aid to Jordan to $150 mln. in economic and $75 mln. in military aid. In 1999 and 2000, the Congress allocated additional $200 mln. in military assistance and $100 mln. in economic assistance as part of the Wye Agreement. It's 2011 now. Coool.

I said Israel has proven they can keep a peace.

That's what is important to this Jew. When the war, it comes (and it will) then the intent will be to defend a tiny country against a Goliath. The Jews have dealt with more than one Goliath before. Many more. We are still here and Israel is recreated and strong.

The intent is to defend Israel. Otherwise it will be a long journey. I had the intent to defend Israel in '73. Not the intent to kill Arabs. Defense is not Genocide in this day and age. That's reality.

Let them or anyone come and see what are the results of their actions.

Unless the Palestinians do these (see above) things, there will be no material and physical "Palestinian" state. They can have a virtual state. So it's not up to the Jews. They need movement.

Otherwise it is all a moot point imo. PF's/Jos's posts about the dissolution/destruction of Israel notwithstanding.

Wishes. I let them wish. I want them to be known for what they say, no more. I've read the end of the first book. The outcome? It still comes.

 

[P F Tinmore]

War takes 2 sides and it can surely end as soon as the palestinians stop thier terrorist ways. If they show they truely want peace the world will stand with them at the negotiating table.

It was the Zionists who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over the country.

The Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans to rename Israel and erase the 1000 year Jewish identity of the Jewish homeland, monkey

University of Southern California History

Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt.

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back

When the Romans occupied Judaea, the historic Jewish land from which "Jew" is derived, they minted "Judaea Capta" coins
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that means that they are not allowed to defend themselves when they are attacked by foreigners?

 

[JStone]

Unless the Palestinians do these (see above) things, there will be no material and physical "Palestinian" state. They can have a virtual state. So it's not up to the Jews. They need movement.

Schmeckle, Jews were known as Palestinians during the British Mandate. Your Palestinians are merely illegal aliens from Arabia.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World TodayGlobal Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

 

[JStone]

It was the Zionists who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over the country.

The Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans to rename Israel and erase the 1000 year Jewish identity of the Jewish homeland, monkey

University of Southern California History

Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt.

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back

When the Romans occupied Judaea, the historic Jewish land from which "Jew" is derived, they minted "Judaea Capta" coins
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that means that they are not allowed to defend themselves when they are attacked by foreigners?

Arabs are the foreigners, from Arabia, monkey. Israel is a Hebrew word and Israel is the 3000 year Jewish homeland.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today Global Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence. According to Bernard Lewis, “From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity.” Lewis notes, "There had been a steady movement of Jews to the Holy Land throughout the centuries." In 135 CE Jews took part in the Bar Kochba revolt against imperial Rome and even re-established their capital in Jerusalem. Defeated by the most brutal of the Roman legions under the command of the emperor Hadrian, Jews were forbidden to reside in Jerusalem for nearly five hundred years. Once a year on the ninth of the Hebrew month of Av, they were allowed to weep at the remains of their destroyed Temple at a spot that came to be called "the Wailing Wall." In the meantime, the Roman authorities renamed Judea as Palestina in order to obliterate the memory of Jewish nationhood.

A resolution adopted by the first Congress of the Muslim Christian Association which met in Jerusalem in February 1919 underlines the Arab understanding of the situation conclusively. It said, "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state using Arab citizens of Israel as its proxy in Israel. It must not be forgotten that the Israeli Arabs are part and parcel of the same Global Jihad that has been murdering our gallant soldiers on the war fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore...

Is that a response for being attacked by foreigners?

 

[JStone]

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore...

Is that a response for being attacked by foreigners?

Arabs are foreigners from Arabia. Israel is the 3000 year Jewish homeland.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today Global Politician - Israel’s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

Palestinian Arabs, on the other hand, never had a separate identity. They always thought of themselves as Arabs rather than as Palestinians. It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

According to Bernard Lewis, “From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity.” Lewis notes, "There had been a steady movement of Jews to the Holy Land throughout the centuries." In 135 CE Jews took part in the Bar Kochba revolt against imperial Rome and even re-established their capital in Jerusalem. Defeated by the most brutal of the Roman legions under the command of the emperor Hadrian, Jews were forbidden to reside in Jerusalem for nearly five hundred years. Once a year on the ninth of the Hebrew month of Av, they were allowed to weep at the remains of their destroyed Temple at a spot that came to be called "the Wailing Wall." In the meantime, the Roman authorities renamed Judea as Palestina in order to obliterate the memory of Jewish nationhood.

A resolution adopted by the first Congress of the Muslim Christian Association which met in Jerusalem in February 1919 underlines the Arab understanding of the situation conclusively. It said, "We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state using Arab citizens of Israel as its proxy in Israel. It must not be forgotten that the Israeli Arabs are part and parcel of the same Global Jihad that has been murdering our gallant soldiers on the war fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[P F Tinmore]

WOW, that is a lot of crap just to not answer the question.

 

[Rocko]

I understand why people consider Jstone spammer, but I just think he's passionate about this issue, because these are his people being affected. I wish Christians were as united against our enemies, not that all jews are, but in general I think jews are more cognizant of the evil that persists in Islam.

Guys like Tinemore, jos, sunni fag, and that Turkish fuck represent evil.

I'd hangout with Jstone over those fucks any day.

 

[JStone]

WOW, that is a lot of crap just to not answer the question.

Coming from the moron whose forum page says he "should be ignored at all costs" and who hasn't even one reputational point after 2 years.

 

[Ropey]

I understand why people consider Jstone spammer, but I just think he's passionate about this issue, because these are his people being affected. I wish Christians were as united against our enemies, not that all jews are, but in general I think jews are more cognizant of the evil that persists in Islam.

Guys like Tinemore, jos, sunni fag, and that Turkish fuck represent evil.

I'd hangout with Jstone over those fucks any day.

I wouldn't make a choice to hang out with any of them. But at least I can get a discussion in with Jos.

JStone? No. All spam answers. PF? No. All calls to end Israel and much spam. Sunni? Pure poke troll calling to Genocide. Ekrem? No. Too much desire to see the end of Israel and support of the Nazi ideology which is Genocidal (understandable, really).

But JStone and PF spam so much that coming here to discuss is pretty much useless.

(IMHO)

Posting the diatribe yada, yada, yada repetitiously does NOT show intellect. Pure discussion that opens up the dialog to learn just what others think IS. What THEY think, not the fucking diatribe. I can just scan youtube and the diatribe sites for that. I come here to discuss.

To each their own though. Enjoy the spam. I'm off to the other forums here where people actually do discuss.

 

[destroythedome]

It was the Zionists who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over the country.

The Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans to rename Israel and erase the 1000 year Jewish identity of the Jewish homeland, monkey

University of Southern California History

Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt.

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back

When the Romans occupied Judaea, the historic Jewish land from which "Jew" is derived, they minted "Judaea Capta" coins
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that means that they are not allowed to defend themselves when they are attacked by foreigners?

launching terrorist attacks on civillians is not self defense. Israel is the established country palestine wants to have a country of there own. you want land that Israel now controls. You hope if you cause enough trouble the world will force Israel to give it to you.( Aint going to happen) This leaves you 2 options fight Israel in open battle and get your asses kicked. Or give up your terrorist ways make peace and become good nieghbors to Israel and they will give you a land of your own it may not be as much or all the parts you want but it will be yours and Israel would help you develope your new country to its fullest potential. but calling terrorist attacks self defense wont get you there. P.F there is an old saying you shoul keep in mind; dont piss on my shoe and tell me its raining.

 

[JStone]

I understand why people consider Jstone spammer, but I just think he's passionate about this issue, because these are his people being affected. I wish Christians were as united against our enemies, not that all jews are, but in general I think jews are more cognizant of the evil that persists in Islam.

Guys like Tinemore, jos, sunni fag, and that Turkish fuck represent evil.

I'd hangout with Jstone over those fucks any day.

I wouldn't make a choice to hang out with any of them. But at least I can get a discussion in with Jos.

JStone? No. All spam answers. PF? No. All calls to end Israel and much spam. Sunni? Pure poke troll calling to Genocide. Ekrem? No. Too much desire to see the end of Israel and support of the Nazi ideology which is Genocidal (understandable, really).

But JStone and PF spam so much that coming here to discuss is pretty much useless.

(IMHO)

Posting the diatribe yada, yada, yada repetitiously does NOT show intellect. Pure discussion that opens up the dialog to learn just what others think IS. What THEY think, not the fucking diatribe. I can just scan youtube and the diatribe sites for that. I come here to discuss.

To each their own though. Enjoy the spam. I'm off to the other forums here where people actually do discuss.

Awwww, you gonna cry, stupid little boy, because I cut you to pieces? Go to mommy.

 

[JStone]

Er, "Palestine" is a made-up word invented by the Romans to rename Israel and erase the 1000 year Jewish identity of the Jewish homeland, monkey

University of Southern California History


When the Romans occupied Judaea, the historic Jewish land from which "Jew" is derived, they minted "Judaea Capta" coins
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that means that they are not allowed to defend themselves when they are attacked by foreigners?

launching terrorist attacks on civillians is not self defense. Israel is the established country palestine wants to have a country of there own. you want land that Israel now controls. You hope if you cause enough trouble the world will force Israel to give it to you.( Aint going to happen) This leaves you 2 options fight Israel in open battle and get your asses kicked. Or give up your terrorist ways make peace and become good nieghbors to Israel and they will give you a land of your own it may not be as much or all the parts you want but it will be yours and Israel would help you develope your new country to its fullest potential. but calling terrorist attacks self defense wont get you there. P.F there is an old saying you shoul keep in mind; dont piss on my shoe and tell me its raining.

There is no Palestine. Roman occupiers renamed Israel "Palestina" and British occupiers renamed it Palestine.