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Its amazing how little faith conservatives have in america, our courts, and our criminal justice system.
Clinton prosectued a bunch of terrorists. Not one was acquited. They all got their asses sent to prison for life.
If those suspected terrorists did something wrong, I can't see an american jury acquiting them.
Yeah, but ask the loonies... they'll tell you that Clinton did nothing about terrorists.
Of course, the people who got convicted under his watch will be in prison forever.
The people taken into gitmo on Bush's watch can't be legally put away, probably, because their confessions (if any) were coerced and they can't properly do chain of evidence.
Yet they want them held as "terrorists" on someone else's say so.... like we can trust anything they said for eight years, anyway.
Because its unamerican to torture people and hold them as prisoners for their whole lives without charging them with anything. Its a black stain our our moral high ground, and its a terrorist recruitment magnet.
That's what Colin Powell says anway. And Bush's Sec of Defence, Gates, now obama's Sec Def has wanted it closed to. I don't think those two dudes are marxists-lenninists
I imagine those who are suspected of being terrorists will be tried in court, either in this country or another country, and they'll go to prison.
From what I've read, your friend seems to be correct.
Probably not. We do not have enough evidence that will stand up in court to convict very many of them. It isn't like we had police officers there to collect evidence. We had soldiers whose focus was not on forensic collection and evidence preservation. So, most will probably go free.
Yeah, but ask the loonies... they'll tell you that Clinton did nothing about terrorists.
Of course, the people who got convicted under his watch will be in prison forever.
The people taken into gitmo on Bush's watch can't be legally put away, probably, because their confessions (if any) were coerced and they can't properly do chain of evidence.
Yet they want them held as "terrorists" on someone else's say so.... like we can trust anything they said for eight years, anyway.
I know somebody, who knows somebody who spoke to somebody...yadda, yadda, yadda..
Here's where you "patriots" just don't get it: if you have conclusive evidence these folks are terrorists, I dare you to find one "leftie" who would not want that person incarcerated.
You righties are all about "freedom" and the "constitution" etc, but man, when it really comes down to it, you guys run rough-shod over justice like a Mac Truck over a bicycle..
Not a friend,an officer in the military I talked to via a NM state (as in public) political forum.
Why don't you a-holes adopt the detainees since you are so concerned?
"Is it used only for suspected terrorists?"
have you heard of habeas corpus?
the tower of london?
america?
Its amazing how little faith conservatives have in america, our courts, and our criminal justice system.
Clinton prosectued a bunch of terrorists. Not one was acquited. They all got their asses sent to prison for life.
If those suspected terrorists did something wrong, I can't see an american jury acquiting them.
That was funny.
We've sent young black men to the electric chair, on the basis of the faulty eyewitness account of one white witness.
I really don't think an american jury is going to let any terrorist walk free. I don't think you need a Law and Order investigation.
On the other hand, if they were tortured, that makes a lot of evidence inadmissible from what I understand. I never did get why conservatives loved torture so much. It gives crappy intelligence and fucks up prosectutions. Its almost like Rove, Bush and Cheney were trying to fuck over america.
Our prosecutors kick ass. You would know!
I ain't worred about an american jury letting a real terrorist go free. Why are cons? Are they frightened little school girls?
You're kind of a dembot, so not much of what you say or think is valid enough to comment on. But, it all depends where they are tried. If you try the terrorists in the Eastern District of Virginia on the Rocket Docket, you will get a different result than if you try them in the District of Columbia.
They don't need to have been tortured for their admissions to be kept out and by extension, anything found out by their admissions as "fruit of the poisonous tree." Actually, what interrogators say about torture is that it is not as productive other means. It isn't that it doesn't work, it is that it doesn't work as well as other means. However, if the other means do not work and torture does, that is information that you would not have had otherwise.
Bush is old news now, stand on your own arguments without the Bush crutch.
aOf course you want Bush to be old news. But, I have to ask, why do you continue to defend his policies with ever fiber of your being when most cons now belatedly claim they could barely stand voting for Bush? That seems rather odd to spend 8 years defending someone you could supposedly barely stomach voting for.
Don't swallow all the nonsense you've read from the left wing blogs sonny...its only the far right that have lose their faith in Bush for not being as far right wing as they would have liked
Gitmo is a recruiting tool for terrorists. Every expert says this. There is broad consensus outside the NeoCon community and outside of Rush Limbaugh's fan base that we should close gitmo. It helps the terroirists more than it helps us.
Bullshit....your only consensus about closing Gitmo lies in the radical left
I'm not an expert on what to do with those people. Neither are you. Somebody's going to figure it out. If it were up to you and bush, you'd keep the place open forever so that it would be the terrorists best recruiting poster they could dream of.
More crap from the wingnuts....where are all these millions of recruits, other than in your imagination...The radical Mulsim recruits come from teaching hate to their children from an early age...Gitmo or no Gitmo .... Gitmo is irrelevant
I want to be smart about fighting terrorists. Cons, evidently, want to invest their energy defending Bush's legacy.
The Bush legacy will be written 50 or 80 or 100+ years from now...only the simple minded,like you, think that todays perceptions will have any lasting effect on the Bush legacy...
ahh, so there ya have it, you won't rescue the innocent terrorists from the evil Americans,,, awww jeez..you had you chance
Not a friend,an officer in the military I talked to via a NM state (as in public) political forum.
Why don't you a-holes adopt the detainees since you are so concerned?
News break, many of our courts are as corrupt as our politicians. It has not one damn thing to do with faith. It has to do with the truth about our system and the corruption that has infiltrated much of it. Oh but wait it must be okay with a Dem that a preident can lie? Sure it is fine for your boy but not for the other teams guy.Its amazing how little faith conservatives have in america, our courts, and our criminal justice system.
Clinton prosectued a bunch of terrorists. Not one was acquited. They all got their asses sent to prison for life.
If those suspected terrorists did something wrong, I can't see an american jury acquiting them.
So you're not about personal responsibility?? Go figure....
BTW an 'innocent terrorist' is an oxymoron...so are they innocent or not?
oh, great, so some guy claiming to be an officer on a public forum told you.
Hi, my name is Brad Pitt. Pleased to meet you. I have a friend who told me that Will Smith is gay. Believe me?
Why would I adopt a detainee?? Why are you trying to make YOUR GUY'S fuck up, my problem? I thought you right-wing neocons were all about personal responsibility...
