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Tell that to Europeans, Japanese, and Chinese.Seriously though, a mode of transportation that is fixed on rails (the ultimate in inflexibility) and travels over the ground (even at high speed) will lose to air travel for long distances and automobiles for short distances.
Now if a private corporation wants to develop a high speed rail line without tax payer money - GO FOR IT. If it is such a great idea, surely entreprenuers and investors would be lined up to participate, right?
Some people won't fly, ever. The actual travel time is a little more, but the cost will drop as more of the trains are used. There is less hassle than going to an airport.
Check out the map of HSTs all over Europe.
Remember, this isn't new technology. Europeans have been building HSTs for years. There is plenty of data for study. And now there is talk of a HSP from China to London.
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.
No benefit? How about a 2 hour train ride from Chicago to St. Louis whic takes 5 hours by car. Yeah you're right no benefit.
Government doesn't do things to make a profit. Its not a business. It does things to better society. Think about it (I know hard thing to do, but at least try):
A 2 hour train ride cuts a business cost to travel, meaning less costs meaning they can save or create new jobs, meaning employment rate goes down, economy gets better, American gets better.
Oh and maybe able to save American manufacturing because transportation cost decrease.
But yeah absolutely no benefit.
Now, that's the height of conservatism.Why trains? If we are going to move backwards with ancient, restrictive technology, why not have a national initiative to invest in rickshaws? They work in CHINA!!! Think of all the jobs!
The conservative definition of "new technology".
i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.
Yep. And a good portion of the citizens here don't want it because it only covers a small portion of the State, will create a few temporary jobs, and then the Taxpayers will get stuck with it.
It's a bad deal like everything else coming out of the Disctrict of Criminals these days.
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.
Yep. And a good portion of the citizens here don't want it because it only covers a small portion of the State, will create a few temporary jobs, and then the Taxpayers will get stuck with it.
It's a bad deal like everything else coming out of the Disctrict of Criminals these days.
Saying that highspeed trains never worked is an outright fucking lie, have any of you two dickheads been to Europe? I can get on a train right here where I live in Germany and be in Paris in two hours, same with Rome. When you say the word NEVER you're making an absolute statement which require facts to support it, now prove that high speed trains have NEVER worked.
I don't believe so...because...i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
The problem is that higher than average fuel prices also affect trains, they do not run on air.
Yep. And a good portion of the citizens here don't want it because it only covers a small portion of the State, will create a few temporary jobs, and then the Taxpayers will get stuck with it.
It's a bad deal like everything else coming out of the Disctrict of Criminals these days.
Saying that highspeed trains never worked is an outright fucking lie, have any of you two dickheads been to Europe? I can get on a train right here where I live in Germany and be in Paris in two hours, same with Rome. When you say the word NEVER you're making an absolute statement which require facts to support it, now prove that high speed trains have NEVER worked.
Are you aware that pointing at a government subsidized anything and claiming that it works makes you look really stupid?
i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
Our airlines don't make a profit. Would you discontinue them?Tell that to Europeans, Japanese, and Chinese.Seriously though, a mode of transportation that is fixed on rails (the ultimate in inflexibility) and travels over the ground (even at high speed) will lose to air travel for long distances and automobiles for short distances.
Now if a private corporation wants to develop a high speed rail line without tax payer money - GO FOR IT. If it is such a great idea, surely entreprenuers and investors would be lined up to participate, right?
How many of those make money?
I don't believe so...because...i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
The problem is that higher than average fuel prices also affect trains, they do not run on air.
High speed trains run on Magnetism, don't they?
Saying that highspeed trains never worked is an outright fucking lie, have any of you two dickheads been to Europe? I can get on a train right here where I live in Germany and be in Paris in two hours, same with Rome. When you say the word NEVER you're making an absolute statement which require facts to support it, now prove that high speed trains have NEVER worked.
Are you aware that pointing at a government subsidized anything and claiming that it works makes you look really stupid?
Dickhead, his statement was that high speed rail never worked so I'm challenging him to back his shit up, take your strawman and shove it up your dumb, funky, fucked up ass.
i don't know whether a train between tampa and orlando is worth it or not....i do know it is wall to wall traffic, most any time of the day, between tampa and orlando on I-4....
the one thing that should be considered in this whole debate on trains, is that these higher than high gasoline prices could move more people towards train services than ever before....i don't think this can be discounted...
and perhaps the private sector will eventually see this and pursue the business...
If we waited for the private sector to do big things, they would never get done. They won't commit the massive infrastructure costs.
That's why the government has to do these things.
Our airlines don't make a profit. Would you discontinue them?Tell that to Europeans, Japanese, and Chinese.
How many of those make money?
Are you aware that pointing at a government subsidized anything and claiming that it works makes you look really stupid?
Dickhead, his statement was that high speed rail never worked so I'm challenging him to back his shit up, take your strawman and shove it up your dumb, funky, fucked up ass.
How is it a straw man to point out that every place high speed rail exists it is subsidized by the government? So, again, does a government an industry that requires government subsidies to exist at all, never mind survive, meet your definition of working? If it does, you can never again complain about any government bailout of banks or the fat cats that run them, because you believe that makes them successful.
A government subsidy is a bail out, which is why intelligent people oppose them both.
