Florida Loses $2.4 Billion For High-Speed Trains

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Florida Loses $2.4 Billion For High-Speed Trains


The project, which would have connected Tampa and Orlando with high-speed trains, was rejected by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican. He said he didn't want to obligate the state to pay for what could be expensive operating costs for the line.

However, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had an operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation.

This is what happens when you have a governor who runs the state like businessman and a very bad one at that, instead of like a politician. There would have been job creation in this but Repugs never promised job creation in their campaigns did they? Its clear they don't fucking care.
 
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.

Yep. And a good portion of the citizens here don't want it because it only covers a small portion of the State, will create a few temporary jobs, and then the Taxpayers will get stuck with it.

It's a bad deal like everything else coming out of the Disctrict of Criminals these days.
 
Florida Loses $2.4 Billion For High-Speed Trains


The project, which would have connected Tampa and Orlando with high-speed trains, was rejected by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican. He said he didn't want to obligate the state to pay for what could be expensive operating costs for the line.

However, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had an operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation.

This is what happens when you have a governor who runs the state like businessman and a very bad one at that, instead of like a politician. There would have been job creation in this but Repugs never promised job creation in their campaigns did they? Its clear they don't fucking care.

Governments SHOULD be run like a business. The politicians have pushed most budgets into RED INK. The Governor is protecting the taxpayers as he should. And you have a problem with that?
 
Florida Loses $2.4 Billion For High-Speed Trains


The project, which would have connected Tampa and Orlando with high-speed trains, was rejected by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican. He said he didn't want to obligate the state to pay for what could be expensive operating costs for the line.

However, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had an operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation.

This is what happens when you have a governor who runs the state like businessman and a very bad one at that, instead of like a politician. There would have been job creation in this but Repugs never promised job creation in their campaigns did they? Its clear they don't fucking care.

Governments SHOULD be run like a business. The politicians have pushed most budgets into RED INK. The Governor is protecting the taxpayers as he should. And you have a problem with that?

No shit, why would you ever want anyone who knows how to pay the bills, live on a budget, and grow? It would be much better having someone who knows nothing but how to spend, and go to the taxpayers for more money when they can't pay for nonsense like this.
 
Flaylo, why don't you recall Scott?

Isn't that the way it works now?
 
The only place high speed rail makes sense is between Washington D.C. and New York City. That's about it.
 
No government ought not to be run like businesses.

They have entirely different missions so suggesting that one ought to act like the other is silly.

Would you say that corporations ought to act like government?

No of course not.

Their mission is to make a profit for their owners, and that is a good thing.

Government's role is to look after the well being of society. And that is a good thing.

Confusing those roles is the definition of FASCISM.

Many of you cons are really fascists and don't apparently realize that what you believe is exactly what Musssolini, Hitler and Franco believed.

I don't tell you this as an insult, I'm just telling you what the political science word is to describe your beliefs.
 
No government ought not to be run like businesses.

They have entirely different missions so suggesting that one ought to act like the other is silly.

Would you say that corporations ought to act like government?

No of course not.

Their mission is to make a profit for their owners, and that is a good thing.

Government's role is to look after the well being of society. And that is a good thing.

Confusing those roles is the definition of FASCISM.

Many of you cons are really fascists and don't apparently realize that what you believe is exactly what Musssolini, Hitler and Franco believed.

I don't tell you this as an insult, I'm just telling you what the political science word is to describe your beliefs.

That's the problem...politicians.
 
As a Californian I applaud the Gov. of Florida; soon we may benefit from his foolishness if our own pols plan for the future and not seek a return to the past. While I understand editec's belief of the New Right being fascist and generally agree, they're also reactionary. Maybe a new word needs to be coined to describe an ideology bereft of ideas. looking backwards and build on a foundation of emotion?
 
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.

No fucking proof just all talk, shut the fuck up.

From my POV I would not be packing up my car going to find a parking lot to pay for, getting on a train at what ever cost, getting on a train getting off finding and loading a cab to go to a resort when I can do it for less money and in less time less hassle by my own car.
Thats not proof, but it is the fact and you can multiply that by 2 million for the people in my community we may live in florida but we aint stupid.
 
High speed rail is an economic loser. It has never worked, outside of one or two well traveled corridors. The guv was right. An expensive boondoggle that would have cost taxpayer money for no benefit.

No fucking proof just all talk, shut the fuck up.

From my POV I would not be packing up my car going to find a parking lot to pay for, getting on a train at what ever cost, getting on a train getting off finding and loading a cab to go to a resort when I can do it for less money and in less time less hassle by my own car.
Thats not proof, but it is the fact and you can multiply that by 2 million for the people in my community we may live in florida but we aint stupid.

Great. More rail for us in California. I'd much rather travel by train than drive from SF to LA or San Diego. Having traveled throughtout Europe on rail I look forward to the day one can travel from downtown Sacramento or San Francisco to downtown LA without the hassle of gridlock on freeways, $5 a gallon gas and the wear on tires, engine and transmission.
Instead of sitting behind the wheel I can sit and have a meal, read a book, surf the web or play a game of chess; have a cold one in the bar, meet new people and share information on places to go and things to do.
Building rail will provide jobs, long term and permanent, and save oil by moving people and products around our nation lowering consumer costs; anyone who shops for grocery's or any other product knows that the spike in fuel prices raises the cost of everything transported.
 
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No fucking proof just all talk, shut the fuck up.

From my POV I would not be packing up my car going to find a parking lot to pay for, getting on a train at what ever cost, getting on a train getting off finding and loading a cab to go to a resort when I can do it for less money and in less time less hassle by my own car.
Thats not proof, but it is the fact and you can multiply that by 2 million for the people in my community we may live in florida but we aint stupid.

Great. More rail for us in California. I'd much rather travel by train than drive from SF to LA or San Diego. Having traveled throughtout Europe on rail I look forward to the day one can travel from downtown Sacramento or San Francisco to downtown LA without the hassle of gridlock on freeways, $5 a gallon gas and the wear on tires, engine and transmission.
Instead of sitting behind the wheel I can sit and have a meal, read a book, surf the web or play a game of chess; have a cold one in the bar, meet new people and share information on places to go and things to do.
Building rail will provide jobs, long term and permanent and save oil by moving people and products around our nation lowering consumer costs for transportation. Anyone who shops for grocery's or any other product knows that the spike in fuel prices raises the cost of everything transported.

Good. You can have it. Most Socialists and their Societies enjoy mass transit payed for by others anyway. (And your choice). Florida chooses to hold on to their Liberty.
 
As a Californian I applaud the Gov. of Florida; soon we may benefit from his foolishness if our own pols plan for the future and not seek a return to the past. While I understand editec's belief of the New Right being fascist and generally agree, they're also reactionary. Maybe a new word needs to be coined to describe an ideology bereft of ideas. looking backwards and build on a foundation of emotion?

Yes because California's budget is balanced so they can afford to spend taxpayer money on expensive play toys for the urban middle class. Right?
 
No fucking proof just all talk, shut the fuck up.

From my POV I would not be packing up my car going to find a parking lot to pay for, getting on a train at what ever cost, getting on a train getting off finding and loading a cab to go to a resort when I can do it for less money and in less time less hassle by my own car.
Thats not proof, but it is the fact and you can multiply that by 2 million for the people in my community we may live in florida but we aint stupid.

Great. More rail for us in California. I'd much rather travel by train than drive from SF to LA or San Diego. Having traveled throughtout Europe on rail I look forward to the day one can travel from downtown Sacramento or San Francisco to downtown LA without the hassle of gridlock on freeways, $5 a gallon gas and the wear on tires, engine and transmission.
Instead of sitting behind the wheel I can sit and have a meal, read a book, surf the web or play a game of chess; have a cold one in the bar, meet new people and share information on places to go and things to do.
Building rail will provide jobs, long term and permanent, and save oil by moving people and products around our nation lowering consumer costs; anyone who shops for grocery's or any other product knows that the spike in fuel prices raises the cost of everything transported.

I traveled the same way in Europe .
Im not going to go through the hassle for a short trip even to Miami .
Orlando resorts are 1.5 hour by speed limit which everyone exceeds, it is about an hour away from the beach here.
 

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