High-speed rail gets a multibillion-dollar White House boost

[MarathonMike]

How many hundreds of millions did we piss away on California's high speed train to nowhere? Now it's billions? FFS we are living Idiocracy 2023.

 

[elektra]

First off, your times are speculation. Nonetheless, I never said it would necessarily be faster, but it does alleviate the stress of having to drive in that mess and on key days, like Sundays, for instance, it would definitely be faster. You can make the same argument about flying. Between the commuting time to and from the airports, assuming you arrive two hours early as suggested, and about an hour and 20 minutes from gate to gate, it's really no faster than driving, which is the reason I usually just drive rather than fly out there.

Also, I'm still waiting for you to explain your earlier comments of how having this rail service will create more traffic between LA and RC if, as you continue to claim, no one will use it anyway.

My time is not speculation, at all.

How long does it take you to park your car at LAX, get to the terminal, buy your ticket/check-in then traverse security and board the plane. 2 hours

I stated one hour to park and board, I underestimated the time to avoid an argument, but, lets increase the time to 1.5 hours to park and board, that is realistic.

Transversing the grade, the El Cajon pass is not going to be high speed, not at all. It will take a hour period. Coming back, downhill, it will definitely take a hour.

1.5 hours parking/boarding (compared to airports 2-3 hours)
1.0 hours transversing the El Cajon pass
1.0 crossing the flat portion of the desert
.5 hours transversing the second pass, called Mountain Pass
1.0 hour deboarding and boarding transportation into Las Vegas

5 hours to travel 228 miles, which done by car takes 3 hours

 

[the other mike]

How many hundreds of millions did we piss away on California's high speed train to nowhere? Now it's billions? FFS we are living Idiocracy 2023.

A deeper question might be How could a country that's 35 trillion dollars in debt not have high speed rail?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The Biden administration announced Friday the largest federal investment in passenger trains in decades, with $8.2 billion in new funding for high-speed rail and other projects nationwide.

Why it matters: Rail travel is considered a relatively clean way to get lots of people from A to B, especially compared to aviation — but the U.S. rail network is sorely lagging behind that of peer nations in Europe and Asia.

Driving the news: The big highlight were two multibillion-dollar packages for planned high-speed rail projects.

• One would connect Las Vegas, Nev. and Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. (just east of Los Angeles) using electrified trains.
• It's expected to carry more than 11 million passengers annually, the White House said, with roughly two-hour trips — half the typical drive time.
• It's being built by Brightline, a private train operator that's been expanding across Florida and is now setting its eyes westward.

The other package would provide for high-speed rail travel between Bakersfield and Merced, Calif.

• "New all-electric trainsets will produce zero emissions and be powered by 100% renewable energy," per the White House.

Meanwhile: The investment will also support improved train infrastructure in North Carolina, the Washington, D.C. area, Chicago, Pennsylvania and more.

Yes, and: Amtrak and Texas Central (another private high-speed rail company) are exploring a partnership around Houston-Dallas service.

• New Amtrak service connecting Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati is also on the table, as is a line connecting Scranton and New York City.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/08/high-speed-rail-white-house

I guess it makes a certain sense.

Why should we, in California, be the only ones who get to squander billions of dollars on a “high speed rail” system that will never actually be built, never carry so much as a single passenger from anywhere to anywhere else?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How is the democrat party the party of science when the simplest of things, that are proven, they argue with?

This is, after all, the very same “party of ‘science’” that has a plank in its official platform that denies the biological distinction between men and women.

 

[Markle]

Japan has had HSR since 1968.

Which has far higher concentrations of their population. They are unfeasible for the United States save for the Acela line in the NE. That corridor has a population of about 44 million, making it feasible for high-speed rail..

 

[elektra]

This is, after all, the very same “party of ‘science’” that has a plank in its official platform that denies the biological distinction between men and women.

aint that the truth, a man is whatever he likes, a man or women,

Think about that, the Democrats say a Man can compete and become a champion woman athlete, but a Woman can not pretend to be a man and become a male champion.

Tell me who values woman, it certainly not democrats.

 

[The Duke]

The Biden administration announced Friday the largest federal investment in passenger trains in decades, with $8.2 billion in new funding for high-speed rail and other projects nationwide.

Why it matters: Rail travel is considered a relatively clean way to get lots of people from A to B, especially compared to aviation — but the U.S. rail network is sorely lagging behind that of peer nations in Europe and Asia.

Driving the news: The big highlight were two multibillion-dollar packages for planned high-speed rail projects.

• One would connect Las Vegas, Nev. and Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. (just east of Los Angeles) using electrified trains.
• It's expected to carry more than 11 million passengers annually, the White House said, with roughly two-hour trips — half the typical drive time.
• It's being built by Brightline, a private train operator that's been expanding across Florida and is now setting its eyes westward.

The other package would provide for high-speed rail travel between Bakersfield and Merced, Calif.

• "New all-electric trainsets will produce zero emissions and be powered by 100% renewable energy," per the White House.

Meanwhile: The investment will also support improved train infrastructure in North Carolina, the Washington, D.C. area, Chicago, Pennsylvania and more.

Yes, and: Amtrak and Texas Central (another private high-speed rail company) are exploring a partnership around Houston-Dallas service.

• New Amtrak service connecting Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati is also on the table, as is a line connecting Scranton and New York City.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/08/high-speed-rail-white-house

CA has spent way more than that since the Obama days and still doesn't have a train, brah.

MSN

 

[the other mike]

CA has spent way more than that since the Obama days and still doesn't have a train, brah.

MSN

$8.2 billion.
The cost of 1 day in the Iraq/ Afghanistan wars of the last 22 years.

 

[The Duke]

$8.2 billion.
The cost of 1 day in the Iraq/ Afghanistan wars of the last 22 years.

What if that much money was split between all Americans?

 

[The Duke]

$8.2 billion.
The cost of 1 day in the Iraq/ Afghanistan wars of the last 22 years.

How many billions of dollars of equipment did Biden unnecessarily leave in Afghanistan?

 

[Foxfyre]

The Biden administration announced Friday the largest federal investment in passenger trains in decades, with $8.2 billion in new funding for high-speed rail and other projects nationwide.

Why it matters: Rail travel is considered a relatively clean way to get lots of people from A to B, especially compared to aviation — but the U.S. rail network is sorely lagging behind that of peer nations in Europe and Asia.

Driving the news: The big highlight were two multibillion-dollar packages for planned high-speed rail projects.

• One would connect Las Vegas, Nev. and Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. (just east of Los Angeles) using electrified trains.
• It's expected to carry more than 11 million passengers annually, the White House said, with roughly two-hour trips — half the typical drive time.
• It's being built by Brightline, a private train operator that's been expanding across Florida and is now setting its eyes westward.

The other package would provide for high-speed rail travel between Bakersfield and Merced, Calif.

• "New all-electric trainsets will produce zero emissions and be powered by 100% renewable energy," per the White House.

Meanwhile: The investment will also support improved train infrastructure in North Carolina, the Washington, D.C. area, Chicago, Pennsylvania and more.

Yes, and: Amtrak and Texas Central (another private high-speed rail company) are exploring a partnership around Houston-Dallas service.

• New Amtrak service connecting Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati is also on the table, as is a line connecting Scranton and New York City.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/08/high-speed-rail-white-house

Little comfort to the 95+% of the country who will benefit not at all from those projects but will be required to pay for it. How much will these trains need to be government subsidized in perpetuity?

And what benefit to the country is there in high speed rail from the LA area to Las Vegas NV?

 

[the other mike]

How many billions of dollars of equipment did Biden unnecessarily leave in Afghanistan?

Why you asking me about that traitor ?