Double Standard

[Bleipriester]

The Double standard,

The settlers can be lucky because the initial intention was to ban their products.

That is the goal, mark my words.

I don´t see your problem. View a settler as an armed person that now resides in your flat.

That you stole of his family along with the family silver back in 1949, and then passed a law making it legal to do so.

No, I didn´t.

 

[Phoenall]

Behavior? I don't see the behavior of the Palestinians in the WB making any difference to the EU unless of course if you take it the opposite direction of which they are being rewarded for their violent behavior, and most importantly I don't see how this move suppose to speed up the process of "getting along" as we discussed earlier.
Wave of terror October-November 2015

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

 

[Phoenall]

The Double standard,

The settlers can be lucky because the initial intention was to ban their products.

That is the goal, mark my words.

I don´t see your problem. View a settler as an armed person that now resides in your flat.

That you stole of his family along with the family silver back in 1949, and then passed a law making it legal to do so.

No, I didn´t.

The Palestinians did back in 1949, just as the Germans did in 1944

 

[Bleipriester]

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

 

[RoccoR]

Bleipriester, et al,

The question begs to be clarified.

The question (Where should we put our settlers first?) is a form of interrogatory to a negotiation. It presupposes that each side is now willing initiate peaceful solutions to deal with the questions of territorial integrity, political independence, war reparations paid to Israel, restitution for criminal pursuits by Arab Palestinians, and international boundaries ; including the Israeli Settlements. This platform "might" be able to discuss the true definition of the term "refugee" as adopted by the The Convention relating to the Status of Refugees.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

(COMMENT)

The "where" is based on the outcome of negotiations. And just as we've discussed before, neither side that is unwilling to compromise, is actually suggesting that the current status quo remain.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

I like Rocco's restitution idea. There is a precedent for restitution of the colonizer to the colonized right here in America.

Restitution to the Palestinians for the land stolen from them, their eviction and the various massacres, injustices suffered at the hands of the Zionists could parallel those that have been paid (and are actively being pursued in court) by descendants of the affected Native Americans vis-a-vis the U.S. Government.

The Native Americans have been bringing the U.S. to court in a number of individual legal actions including Homer Flute et al. v. U.S. et al., case number 14-1405, in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit, where reparations are being claimed for reprisals by the U.S. Army for Indian attacks on white settlers, in which the U.S. Army killed Native American civilians (women and children) in reprisal attacks. While the U.S. Cavalry attack on the Indian encampment that the "braves" returned to occurred in 1864, there is no statute of limitations because of the nature of the crime. And, the Government admits the U.S. Army ignored clear indications that the encampment housed civilians in addition to the "braves" that had attacked the white settlers.

Whether the U.N., Great Britain, the U.S. (as the facilitator of the Israeli attacks on civilians) or Israel should pay the reparations is the question.

 

[Daniyel]

No much of difference between a Muslim and a Jewish one don't you think?

Sure! Not the religion makes the point but the behavior. Time to get along, don´t you think?

Behavior? I don't see the behavior of the Palestinians in the WB making any difference to the EU unless of course if you take it the opposite direction of which they are being rewarded for their violent behavior, and most importantly I don't see how this move suppose to speed up the process of "getting along" as we discussed earlier.
Wave of terror October-November 2015

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

 

[Phoenall]

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

Anywhere you like, just don't bleat when you are kicked out 6 years later

 

[Phoenall]

I like Rocco's restitution idea. There is a precedent for restitution of the colonizer to the colonized right here in America.

Restitution to the Palestinians for the land stolen from them, their eviction and the various massacres, injustices suffered at the hands of the Zionists could parallel those that have been paid (and are actively being pursued in court) by descendants of the affected Native Americans vis-a-vis the U.S. Government.

The Native Americans have been bringing the U.S. to court in a number of individual legal actions including Homer Flute et al. v. U.S. et al., case number 14-1405, in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit, where reparations are being claimed for reprisals by the U.S. Army for Indian attacks on white settlers, in which the U.S. Army killed Native American civilians (women and children) in reprisal attacks. While the U.S. Cavalry attack on the Indian encampment that the "braves" returned to occurred in 1864, there is no statute of limitations because of the nature of the crime. And, the Government admits the U.S. Army ignored clear indications that the encampment housed civilians in addition to the "braves" that had attacked the white settlers.

Whether the U.N., Great Britain, the U.S. (as the facilitator of the Israeli attacks on civilians) or Israel should pay the reparations is the question.

What is wrong with the Saudi's paying, after all they were the cause of the refugees in the first place

 

[Bleipriester]

Sure! Not the religion makes the point but the behavior. Time to get along, don´t you think?

Behavior? I don't see the behavior of the Palestinians in the WB making any difference to the EU unless of course if you take it the opposite direction of which they are being rewarded for their violent behavior, and most importantly I don't see how this move suppose to speed up the process of "getting along" as we discussed earlier.
Wave of terror October-November 2015

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

 

[Bleipriester]

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

Anywhere you like, just don't bleat when you are kicked out 6 years later

Consult the thread title.

 

[Daniyel]

Behavior? I don't see the behavior of the Palestinians in the WB making any difference to the EU unless of course if you take it the opposite direction of which they are being rewarded for their violent behavior, and most importantly I don't see how this move suppose to speed up the process of "getting along" as we discussed earlier.
Wave of terror October-November 2015

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

So let's elaborate on this matter.
The fact EU made a one sided step to predetermine the borders, and embrace Hamas rather than remove it (seriously?? ) corners Israel into NOT willing to negotiate while de facto ruling the WB, while encouraging the Palestinians to maintain past behavior - spinning the cycle of the conflict further.

 

[Phoenall]

But which borders would they be, as you cant impose borders on a sovereign nation that they do not agree with

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

Anywhere you like, just don't bleat when you are kicked out 6 years later

Consult the thread title.

And you deflect and I will answer showing that you have deflected

 

[Bleipriester]

Yes, behavior. Individual and collective. This isn´t about the EU. Both parties apply collective punishments on each other for individual deeds. That´s not good.

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

So let's elaborate on this matter.
The fact EU made a one sided step to predetermine the borders, and embrace Hamas rather than remove it (seriously?? ) corners Israel into NOT willing to negotiate while de facto ruling the WB, while encouraging the Palestinians to maintain past behavior - spinning the cycle of the conflict further.

It´s your mistake, Daniyel. Don´t expect the EU to be reasonable. It is a bunch of megalomaniac lunatics. A NGO that has government-like competences granted by contracts. These contracts grant the EU total power without exceptions. The EU even lacks an area of competence. For example, German federal states have an area of competence: Police, education and culture. So when my state NRW decides that the new police uniforms must be blue but the EU says they must be pink and made by Hamas, they will be pink and made by Hamas.

 

[Bleipriester]

What, when we Germans no longer agree with our borders?

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

Anywhere you like, just don't bleat when you are kicked out 6 years later

Consult the thread title.

And you deflect and I will answer showing that you have deflected

I didn´t. I just showed you that your alleged general view of anarchy, where borders doesn´t mean a thing is in realty limited to the Israeli borders.

 

[Phoenall]

Obviously, but in the end of the day the EU decided to accept the BDS movement request and mark Israeli goods only.

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

So let's elaborate on this matter.
The fact EU made a one sided step to predetermine the borders, and embrace Hamas rather than remove it (seriously?? ) corners Israel into NOT willing to negotiate while de facto ruling the WB, while encouraging the Palestinians to maintain past behavior - spinning the cycle of the conflict further.

It´s your mistake, Daniyel. Don´t expect the EU to be reasonable. It is a bunch of megalomaniac lunatics. A NGO that has government-like competences granted by contracts. These contracts grant the EU total power without exceptions. The EU even lacks an area of competence. For example, German federal states have an area of competence: Police, education and culture. So when my state NRW decides that the new police uniforms must be blue but the EU says they must be pink and made by Hamas, they will be pink and made by Hamas.

And this is why the UK wants out of the EU and to no longer be brought down by the neo Marxists running Europe. We have lost out national identity and are forced to pay the second largest amount into the coffers and get the least back out. We will reclaim our borders and evict the workshy Europeans and immigrants and stop the EU dabbling in our legal system, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change this. We decide what colour our Police uniforms will be, and which criminals will be deported not some eurocrat in Brussels

 

[Phoenall]

Why who are you accusing of stealing land now ?

Where should we put our settlers first?

Anywhere you like, just don't bleat when you are kicked out 6 years later

Consult the thread title.

And you deflect and I will answer showing that you have deflected

I didn´t. I just showed you that your alleged general view of anarchy, where borders doesn´t mean a thing is in realty limited to the Israeli borders.

very soon it will be world wide after the attacks last Friday and the muslims will find it harder to invade Europe. Your politicians might want open borders but the UK doesn't and we will put our borders back in place.
Israel has the right of it when they stop all Palestinians from crossing and make it hard for them to travel, they are showing the world how it should be done.

 

[Bleipriester]

Yeah. Hamas should be removed and borders should be acknowledged.

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

So let's elaborate on this matter.
The fact EU made a one sided step to predetermine the borders, and embrace Hamas rather than remove it (seriously?? ) corners Israel into NOT willing to negotiate while de facto ruling the WB, while encouraging the Palestinians to maintain past behavior - spinning the cycle of the conflict further.

It´s your mistake, Daniyel. Don´t expect the EU to be reasonable. It is a bunch of megalomaniac lunatics. A NGO that has government-like competences granted by contracts. These contracts grant the EU total power without exceptions. The EU even lacks an area of competence. For example, German federal states have an area of competence: Police, education and culture. So when my state NRW decides that the new police uniforms must be blue but the EU says they must be pink and made by Hamas, they will be pink and made by Hamas.

And this is why the UK wants out of the EU and to no longer be brought down by the neo Marxists running Europe. We have lost out national identity and are forced to pay the second largest amount into the coffers and get the least back out. We will reclaim our borders and evict the workshy Europeans and immigrants and stop the EU dabbling in our legal system, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change this. We decide what colour our Police uniforms will be, and which criminals will be deported not some eurocrat in Brussels

English lawmakers are even worse! Just take your iron lady. What a mess! She destroyed your identity and annihilated your industry almost entirely. Consult your economy´s share of industry - falling down to the bottom line during her war on England. Outsiders would think the country has been bombed like Germany in WWII.

 

[Bleipriester]

very soon it will be world wide after the attacks last Friday and the muslims will find it harder to invade Europe. Your politicians might want open borders but the UK doesn't and we will put our borders back in place.

You know, particularly for England, it is already too late to close the borders. They prostitute your children, destroy your education system just with there presence and even Christmas decoration gets banned in your country.

Israel has the right of it when they stop all Palestinians from crossing and make it hard for them to travel, they are showing the world how it should be done.

It was about expanding borders, right?

 

[Phoenall]

So you see the problem now?

Not exactly. For me, Netanyahu´s share of votes is insufficent to reign like a king. Israel´s party landscape is a race for the top of radikalism, anyway. I would vote the socialists.

So let's elaborate on this matter.
The fact EU made a one sided step to predetermine the borders, and embrace Hamas rather than remove it (seriously?? ) corners Israel into NOT willing to negotiate while de facto ruling the WB, while encouraging the Palestinians to maintain past behavior - spinning the cycle of the conflict further.

It´s your mistake, Daniyel. Don´t expect the EU to be reasonable. It is a bunch of megalomaniac lunatics. A NGO that has government-like competences granted by contracts. These contracts grant the EU total power without exceptions. The EU even lacks an area of competence. For example, German federal states have an area of competence: Police, education and culture. So when my state NRW decides that the new police uniforms must be blue but the EU says they must be pink and made by Hamas, they will be pink and made by Hamas.

And this is why the UK wants out of the EU and to no longer be brought down by the neo Marxists running Europe. We have lost out national identity and are forced to pay the second largest amount into the coffers and get the least back out. We will reclaim our borders and evict the workshy Europeans and immigrants and stop the EU dabbling in our legal system, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change this. We decide what colour our Police uniforms will be, and which criminals will be deported not some eurocrat in Brussels

English lawmakers are even worse! Just take your iron lady. What a mess! She destroyed your identity and annihilated your industry almost entirely. Consult your economy´s share of industry - falling down to the bottom line during her war on England. Outsiders would think the country has been bombed like Germany in WWII.

She stood up to the Eurocrats and told them no many times.

It was the EU that destroyed our industry because we were better that the rest of Europe and showed up the other industrial nations. We were forced to bring in pollution controls or face heavy fines, then the subsidies were made illegal for the UK and we had to sell our nationalised industries to European private companies. So yes the UK has been bombed by Eurocrats that are now facing ruin because we will vote to leave the EU and send back all the immigrants and free loaders we have been forced to take in.