Does anyone here feel unsafe to walk anywhere in America?

[M14 Shooter]

People in red states are killing themselves?

You aren't aware of the state suicide rates?
Oh wait. Of course you aren't. Silly me.

 

[schmidlap]

And when you remove the people who shoot themselves, the states with the highest likelyhood are... blue

Did you just make that up? You lack documentation of your claim.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Did you just make that up?

I'm not anti-gun loon, forced to add in suicide numbers to make an argument against firearms and gun control laws so... no.

 

[schmidlap]

And when you remove the people who shoot themselves, the states with the highest likelyhood are... blue
I'm not anti-gun loon, forced to make an argument against firearms by adding in suicide numbers, so... no.

Empirical data:

 

[M14 Shooter]

Empirical data:

And thus, you prove my point.
Well done.

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[schmidlap]

And thus, you prove my point.
Well done.

If that is what you need to tell yourself, so be it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

If that is what you need to tell yourself, so be it.

Ah.
You don't understand, you regurgitate.
No real surprise.

 

[schmidlap]

Ah.
You don't understand, you regurgitate.
No real surprise.

So, you can't defend your fake claim that "the states with the highest likelyhood [sic] are... blue."

Of course you can't. There is no credible evidence that you can cite.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So, you can't defend your fake claim that "the states with the highest likelyhood [sic] are... blue."

You -proved- my claim, bub, by proving the firearm suicide rates in red states are much much higher than blue states.
See, when you subtract these much higher firearm suicide rates from the higher gun death rates yout get...
...much lower firearm murder rates.

Thus:
When you remove the people who shoot themselves, the states with the highest likelyhood are... blue

Well done.

 

[schmidlap]

You -proved- my claim, bub, by proving the firearm suicide rates in red states are much much higher than blue states.
See, when you subtract these much higher firearm suicide rates from the higher gun death rates yout get...
...much lower firearm murder rates.

Thus:
When you remove the people who shoot themselves, the states with the highest likelyhood are... blue

Well done.

You have contrived no data that shows that states with the lowest rate of firearm fatalities have a high rate of firearm suicides - such as AK, MT, and WY.

Where are your numbers?

 

[M14 Shooter]

You have contrived no data...

I didn't have to. YOU did.

Lets take a simple, yet illustrative, example.

IL gun death rate: 12/100k
IL gun suicide rate: 5.6/100k
IL gun homicide rate: 6.4/100k

WY gun death rate: 18.4/100k
WY gun suicide rate: 16.2/100k
WY gun homicide rate: 2.2/100k

Removing those who shoot themselves, in which state is an American is far more likely to be shot to death in?