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Symbolism is important in my path too. The Lotus, for example. Is a symbol of our potential as human beings, our own Buddha nature.
It is the pureset of flowers, yet is is born in the mud.
What do you focus on in your spirituality? The positive or the negative? Is everyone outside of your own path a devil?
I focus on myself, and making myself better as a person, and ALL else with others, falls in to place.
No one outside of my own path is a devil, they are all just human beings searching their own individual path that intertwines with mine at times, but not always....free will supports this, in my opinion!
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Check with a Rabbi. Good advice. I think that's the problem with a couple of the Christian paths--no rabbi's, no authentic, living teachers in the tradition. Broken lineages. Where are the living wisdom masters in Christianity?
Where are the Christ-like Christians?
I gotta think that the last thing Jesus gave a damn about was what his political leanings were.
However, being the Word, who was with God in the beginning, Jesus was God in carnate. You're just projecting your own confused mental situation onto a perfect being. Just because we aren't perfect doesn't mean Christ wasn't.
And the bible makes absolutely no bones about the fact that Jesus had brothers and probably sisters as well.
Mary ran the chance of being killed for her alleged transgression, if it wasn't believed. Not only was it a killing (worst case scenario, it's true, but a very real one) offense to have sex before marriage, it was HERESY to claim you were pregnant with the son of God.
Joseph didn't believe her at first...but after being visited by an angel he changed his mind. I think I would, too.
As far as being "fucked up" at 12, I don't think he could have been too fucked up if he was teaching in the Temple at that age, which he was. Nor do his teachings sound like the ramblings of a fucked up person.
Is the Anti-Christ the devil? I am thrown off by your references to the anti-Christ.
Who or what you do you think the anti-Christ is?
What symbolism in your tradition is particularly meaningful to you? What do you think of the virgin birth teaching? What does it mean to you?
Christ wasn't a socialist any more than he was a Nazi or a Democrat. He was Christ. He told us to obey our government and laws so long as they didn't come into direct conflict with the teachings of the bible.
And GayBiker, there are true Christians, and I don't believe I've ever heard of "Northern" Baptists. CAre to elaborate a little? Shine some of that special brand of non-ledge you have about all things religious..particularly all things Christian.
Your assuming that Christ wasn't human then. I assume that he is a human. And human by default are not perfect beings according to Christianity, from the minute you're born you have the original sin for example.
There is a huge leap in Jesus's life from the age of 12 til 30. Care to explain why 18 years, the majority of the man's life up until that point is missing from the bible?
Which is why he told people to obey slavery laws because the bible (the good book of equality supposedly) said Slavery was okay! Thank you for proving my point! However, if Jesus Christ was so perfect that would he not of had condemned slavery for what it was then? Especially with the amass of influence he had on the people?
Jesus wasn't a nazi, democrat (I think you mean Liberal), Conservative,etc. He was a Socialist. Just because you don't want that to be true, doesn't make it untrue.
Is the Anti-Christ the devil? I am thrown off by your references to the anti-Christ.
Who or what you do you think the anti-Christ is?
What symbolism in your tradition is particularly meaningful to you? What do you think of the virgin birth teaching? What does it mean to you?
I didn't for about 10 years of my life, walked away completely, and only when i gave up on any established church or formal denomination and began reading the Bible and a lot of other research on my own, did I believe, once again, solely on my own Bible study, not from any "Church's" and i take it as a kick in the butt from God but that's just my way of looking at it...Which is why he told people to obey slavery laws because the bible (the good book of equality supposedly) said Slavery was okay! Thank you for proving my point! However, if Jesus Christ was so perfect that would he not of had condemned slavery for what it was then? Especially with the amass of influence he had on the people?
Jesus wasn't a nazi, democrat (I think you mean Liberal), Conservative,etc. He was a Socialist. Just because you don't want that to be true, doesn't make it untrue.
CHrist was God in human form. The Bible states specifically that Jesus was with God at the beginning of the world.
"1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
"The Word" is Jesus.
2 Corinthians 5God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Find the quote where he states what political affiliation he claims.
There were no Bank of America's to borrow from to pay back ones debt to others, if it could not be paid back, they were put in to slavery to the one they owed money to until they paid it off....this was common practice at the time and for a very long time after wards.....is one of my understandings of it?
these laws and rules are DEAD. They no longer apply to Jews or to Christians....
