Did Trump just say what I think he said?

[YoursTruly]

Here we go again.... Your information is 100% untrue.... if what you say was true gas prices would have fallen not risen... so right there it proves you wrong... there are different grades of oil... not all grades can be refined in our country due to environmental concerns so that cheaper thicker oil is sold to other nations that can still refine it... Biden closed of the sites where the best US oil is located costing the oil companies their massive investments... just with a stroke of a pen....
And of course gas price went nuts....

Because oil isn't based solely on supply and demand anymore. Now it's a global market price. They're going to get as much as the market will bear. Gas/oil is a for profit business. With investors that don't give a shit if we have to cut back on groceries just to keep gas in our tanks. They provide just enough to keep everything going.
If they produced more, the prices would fall and they'd make less money.

This is exactly why the prices were low during Trump. It wasn't because he "allowed" the oil companies to drill and produce. It wasn't because he set the price. It was because Saudi Arabia and Russia were flooding the market with cheap oil, with their oil price war. Under cutting the market price.

Trump takes credit for it because not enough of his supporters even realize that Russia and the Saudi were in an oil price war.
Hell, most of them don't know that in April of 2020, Trump struck a deal with US, Mexican and Saudi oil producers to REDUCE production. (which increases price). By June of that year, US oil companies were issuing record numbers of lay offs. By the time Biden walked into the White House, all that extra oil the oil companies had stored, was about gone. Big producers has stopped producing and the bust cycle was well under way. Add that to the inflation Trump helped to create with his $8 trillion spending spree and COVID, and you end up with $4 per gallon gas.

 

[Robert W]

Considering he ran up our debt faster than any administration in American history.

Nope, Roosevelt has that record.

U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

The national debt has increased under most U.S. presidents. Here is how much each president's time in office added to the U.S. debt by percentage and dollar amounts.

www.investopedia.com

Here are the top five presidents in modern U.S. history who recorded the largest percentage increase to national debt during their term(s) in office.

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933–1945)​

President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) contributed the largest percentage increase to U.S. national debt to date. Roosevelt entered office when the United States was in the depths of the Great Depression, the longest economic recession in modern history. FDR’s New Deal, a series of government-funded programs to fight the devastating effects of the Great Depression, added significantly to the national debt.

 

[Robert W]

He also is ignoring the fact that Biden has said he is going to end the US fossil fuel industry... so what oil exec in his right mind is willing to dump billions into drilling in sites that won't pay off for a decade.... They would be better off hanging onto the sites until we get Trump back in office and changes course...

Yep. But the Democrats only blame republicans.

 

[Rambunctious]

Because oil isn't based solely on supply and demand anymore. Now it's a global market price. They're going to get as much as the market will bear. Gas/oil is a for profit business. With investors that don't give a shit if we have to cut back on groceries just to keep gas in our tanks. They provide just enough to keep everything going.
If they produced more, the prices would fall and they'd make less money.

This is exactly why the prices were low during Trump. It wasn't because he "allowed" the oil companies to drill and produce. It wasn't because he set the price. It was because Saudi Arabia and Russia were flooding the market with cheap oil, with their oil price war. Under cutting the market price.

Trump takes credit for it because not enough of his supporters even realize that Russia and the Saudi were in an oil price war.
Hell, most of them don't know that in April of 2020, Trump struck a deal with US, Mexican and Saudi oil producers to REDUCE production. (which increases price). By June of that year, US oil companies were issuing record numbers of lay offs. By the time Biden walked into the White House, all that extra oil the oil companies had stored, was about gone. Big producers has stopped producing and the bust cycle was well under way. Add that to the inflation Trump helped to create with his $8 trillion spending spree and COVID, and you end up with $4 per gallon gas.

No its totally based on supply and demand.... I bet you don't even know we are still buying oil from Russia... and sorry... Trump had nothing to do with the rise in gas prices... don't tell people that if you hate being laughed at...

 

[YoursTruly]

He also is ignoring the fact that Biden has said he is going to end the US fossil fuel industry... so what oil exec in his right mind is willing to dump billions into drilling in sites that won't pay off for a decade.... They would be better off hanging onto the sites until we get Trump back in office and changes course...

I ignore Biden's lie, because it was a lie. Oil production rates now prove he was lying. In fact, Biden issued more drilling permits his first year than Trump did in his first year.

Biden simply played a part. A part that allowed the oil companies to produce record low amounts of oil, all the while receiving record profits. And to top it off, The Biden oil subsidies will be record high.

Maybe Biden just thought he was only fooling the environmentalist. Turns out he was fooling them and the Trump supporters to.

He didn't fool the environmentalist very long. Because when he opened up those millions of acres of leases in the gulf, they sued him and had those leases shut back down. They were reopened not long after than though. Thanks to an pro oil judge in Louisiana.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Nope, Roosevelt has that record.

U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

The national debt has increased under most U.S. presidents. Here is how much each president's time in office added to the U.S. debt by percentage and dollar amounts.

www.investopedia.com

Here are the top five presidents in modern U.S. history who recorded the largest percentage increase to national debt during their term(s) in office.

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933–1945)​

President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) contributed the largest percentage increase to U.S. national debt to date. Roosevelt entered office when the United States was in the depths of the Great Depression, the longest economic recession in modern history. FDR’s New Deal, a series of government-funded programs to fight the devastating effects of the Great Depression, added significantly to the national debt.

BINGO

 

[YoursTruly]

No its totally based on supply and demand.... I bet you don't even know we are still buying oil from Russia... and sorry... Trump had nothing to do with the rise in gas prices... don't tell people that if you hate being laughed at...

I didn't say Trump had anything to do with the rise of the gas prices. What he did do was get oil producers to DECREASE oil production. Even US oil companies (April 2020). Initiating the bust cycle of 2021/2022.
Once the supplies were running low, the futures market kicked in and away the prices went.

The oil companies didn't have to reduce oil production. Trump was just the president. He can't force them. And neither can Biden.

 

[Rambunctious]

I ignore Biden's lie, because it was a lie. Oil production rates now prove he was lying. In fact, Biden issued more drilling permits his first year than Trump did in his first year.

Biden simply played a part. A part that allowed the oil companies to produce record low amounts of oil, all the while receiving record profits. And to top it off, The Biden oil subsidies will be record high.

Maybe Biden just thought he was only fooling the environmentalist. Turns out he was fooling them and the Trump supporters to.

He didn't fool the environmentalist very long. Because when he opened up those millions of acres of leases in the gulf, they sued him and had those leases shut back down. They were reopened not long after than though. Thanks to an pro oil judge in Louisiana.

When you tell oil companies we will be all EV's in 25 years they stop spending money on R and D of any drilling site... you know a drilling site doesn't pay off for years and it takes millions of investment dollars.... you say you know Joe was lying but you don't have a company to worry about...

 

[Robert W]

That's true. But when it comes to education, the progressives have always been the stars of the show. Just look at the progressive era of the early 20th century. Of course, that's back when the Republicans were the predominantly progressive party.

What happens in these types of discussions is posters stop saying Democrat and Republican to create terms like Progressive and Conservative, Liberal and so forth.

Education was not cabinet post, federally funded until 1980. The first Federal intrusion was 1867. Jimmy Carter signed the law that was federally funded in 1979.

 

[Rambunctious]

I didn't say Trump had anything to do with the rise of the gas prices. What he did do was get oil producers to DECREASE oil production. Even US oil companies (April 2020). Initiating the bust cycle of 2021/2022.
Once the supplies were running low, the futures market kicked in and away the prices went.

The oil companies didn't have to reduce oil production. Trump was just the president. He can't force them. And neither can Biden.

Big producers has stopped producing and the bust cycle was well under way. Add that to the inflation Trump helped to create with his $8 trillion spending spree and COVID, and you end up with $4 per gallon gas.

Then what do you call that?....

 

[YoursTruly]

Then what do you call that?....

Influencing.

 

[Rambunctious]

Influencing.

I call it you got outed.... Trump had nothing to do with Biden's inflation... its all on Joe....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You clowns soil your undies over every Trump statement. Trump says lots of things, some of which are just meant to trigger Democrats and their Cult.

Cultism on parade.

When he says what you like, he means what he says.

When he doesn't, he doesn't.

As predictable as the sunrise.

 

[Rambunctious]

Cultism on parade.

When he says what you like, he means what he says.

When he doesn't, he doesn't.

As predictable as the sunrise.

Did you just crawl out of bed?....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

People outside the cult need to fully understand rhat Trump is an empty suit with no principals or knowledge of anything. He is Ron Burgundy with a teleprompter.

So if they are clever, people can trick him into doing what they want him to do.

So let's get to work on that. All it takes is for him to say he supports something, and the cult will defend it until their dying breath, one way or another.

See: this thread

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump wants to do what he did in 2016 and that was to open up drilling which would fill our treasury with new dollars instead of Russia's Iran's and Saudi Arabia's....
That seems simple enough to me to understand....

That is indeed simple.

 

[Rambunctious]

That is indeed simple.

I guess not simple enough for you....

 

[YoursTruly]

People outside the cult need to fully understand rhat Trump is an empty suit with no principals or knowledge of anything. He is Ron Burgundy with a teleprompter.

So if they are clever, people can trick him into doing what they want him to do.

So let's get to work on that. All it takes is for him to say he supports something, and the cult will defend it until their dying breath, one way or another.

See: this thread

And the left needs to realize that they're so evil and retarded, that they're actually making Trump look good.
FFS, Trump taken his supporters way further to the left, because the left is has reached an insanity stage.

Letting men compete with women. Prosecuting people in the capital who did nothing more than walk around with capital police and take selfies? Threatening to end the very energy source that runs 90% of the US economy? Handing out billions to green energy companies that 1. Don't have the customer support. 2. Don't have the infrastructure to maintain all these recharging stations without huge drawbacks. People getting fired for calling a man in a dress a man.

And the list just goes on and on and on.

I can't stand Trump. He's worse than Mitt Romney. But FFS, since this is a two party system, it's either a whacked out Republican or an authoritarian democrat.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Haramapaloza

Casino Royale

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No its not... rich oil reserves are closed off by Biden...

Derp…

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)