Chick-fil-A restaurant in CA will pay employees $17 an hour

[hadit]

I have, many times. You choose to ignore them. I can't help you if you do that.

nothing but Talk not Any form of Valid Argument. Why not restate your alleged argument so that it is more cogent and more concise.

I've done it many times and you've chosen to ignore it. No need to do it again.

i resorted to the fewest fallacies, the whole time. No need to do it again.

Have you gone back over the education I've given you yet?

i resorted to the fewest fallacies.

That doesn't answer the question.

 

[danielpalos]

nothing but Talk not Any form of Valid Argument. Why not restate your alleged argument so that it is more cogent and more concise.

I've done it many times and you've chosen to ignore it. No need to do it again.

i resorted to the fewest fallacies, the whole time. No need to do it again.

Have you gone back over the education I've given you yet?

i resorted to the fewest fallacies.

That doesn't answer the question.

yes, it does.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. The effect of hiring is jobs and income.
The effect of banning hiring is fewer jobs and less income.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?

not in Seattle or San Francisco. You can't explain it, so why should I indulge Your special pleading, in a vacuum.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?

Is there a statutory minimum wage or a market based minimum wage in question?

Why don't you answer for either scenario?

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

 

[danielpalos]

not in Seattle or San Francisco. You can't explain it, so why should I indulge Your special pleading, in a vacuum.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?

Is there a statutory minimum wage or a market based minimum wage in question?

Why don't you answer for either scenario?

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?

Is there a statutory minimum wage or a market based minimum wage in question?

Why don't you answer for either scenario?

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

 

[danielpalos]

Is there a statutory minimum wage or a market based minimum wage in question?

Why don't you answer for either scenario?

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

 

[hadit]

I've done it many times and you've chosen to ignore it. No need to do it again.

i resorted to the fewest fallacies, the whole time. No need to do it again.

Have you gone back over the education I've given you yet?

i resorted to the fewest fallacies.

That doesn't answer the question.

yes, it does.

Not even close. This is why no one takes the left seriously on economics. They never learn anything.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why don't you answer for either scenario?

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

The government just doubled the cost of your weed.
Does that increased price impact your demand or not?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

Let's nail down the impact on employers before we talk about the spending spree the workers will embark upon.

 

[danielpalos]

i resorted to the fewest fallacies, the whole time. No need to do it again.

Have you gone back over the education I've given you yet?

i resorted to the fewest fallacies.

That doesn't answer the question.

yes, it does.

Not even close. This is why no one takes the left seriously on economics. They never learn anything.

yes, it is right on target. the right wing is simply clueless and Causeless, like usual.

 

[danielpalos]

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

The government just doubled the cost of your weed.
Does that increased price impact your demand or not?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

Let's nail down the impact on employers before we talk about the spending spree the workers will embark upon.

What impact? They can't get labor any cheaper. The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

The government just doubled the cost of your weed.
Does that increased price impact your demand or not?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

Let's nail down the impact on employers before we talk about the spending spree the workers will embark upon.

What impact? They can't get labor any cheaper. The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

What impact?

Yes. They doubled the price of your weed.
Does that change your demand?

 

[hadit]

Have you gone back over the education I've given you yet?

i resorted to the fewest fallacies.

That doesn't answer the question.

yes, it does.

Not even close. This is why no one takes the left seriously on economics. They never learn anything.

yes, it is right on target. the right wing is simply clueless and Causeless, like usual.

And your cycle continues.

 

[danielpalos]

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

The government just doubled the cost of your weed.
Does that increased price impact your demand or not?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

Let's nail down the impact on employers before we talk about the spending spree the workers will embark upon.

What impact? They can't get labor any cheaper. The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

What impact?

Yes. They doubled the price of your weed.
Does that change your demand?

no. i grow it.

 

[danielpalos]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage,

Everyone earning under minimum wage has their wages suppressed by monopsony?

Wait, what? Dude!!!!

 

[danielpalos]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage,

Everyone earning under minimum wage has their wages suppressed by monopsony?

Wait, what? Dude!!!!

Yes; that analogous effect via the "mechanism of the law".

Or, socialism of the law, if you prefer that.

Or, the command economics of "moving the goal posts for Capitalism", if you prefer that.

I can be flexible.

 

[hadit]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage,

Everyone earning under minimum wage has their wages suppressed by monopsony?

Wait, what? Dude!!!!

Yes; that analogous effect via the "mechanism of the law".

Or, socialism of the law, if you prefer that.

Or, the command economics of "moving the goal posts for Capitalism", if you prefer that.

I can be flexible.

Not really. You're dogmatic to the extreme and never learn anything.

 

[danielpalos]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage,

Everyone earning under minimum wage has their wages suppressed by monopsony?

Wait, what? Dude!!!!

Yes; that analogous effect via the "mechanism of the law".

Or, socialism of the law, if you prefer that.

Or, the command economics of "moving the goal posts for Capitalism", if you prefer that.

I can be flexible.

Not really. You're dogmatic to the extreme and never learn anything.

Why does Seattle, gainsay your right wing mythos?

 

[hadit]

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage, and Only then, do mostly normal market forces apply.

The right wing still can't explain why their claims are just plain Wrong.

Seattle and San Francisco should have higher unemployment rates not lower unemployment rates for their higher minimum wage. The right wing, really is, Clueless and Causeless on this one.

The impact is monopsony until they reach the minimum wage,

Everyone earning under minimum wage has their wages suppressed by monopsony?

Wait, what? Dude!!!!

Yes; that analogous effect via the "mechanism of the law".

Or, socialism of the law, if you prefer that.

Or, the command economics of "moving the goal posts for Capitalism", if you prefer that.

I can be flexible.

Not really. You're dogmatic to the extreme and never learn anything.

Why does Seattle, gainsay your right wing mythos?

Because you have it backwards. Seattle can afford to pay higher wages because there is more wealth concentrated there. Remember, they were wealthy long before they raised the MW, not the other way around. If a high MW really created a lot of wealth, far more cities and states would be raising it, but people far smarter than you are not doing it.

Now I've educated you, but I fully expect you to learn as much from it as you have in the past, that is to say, nothing at all.

 

[Slyhunter]

apples and oranges. under True Capitalism, there is no unemployment only underpayment.

A natural rate of unemployment, is an artificial construct that explains why the right wing is Capitally Useless.

I'll try to dumb this down in a way that you might understand.

If there are two identical bags of weed, one selling for $100 and another selling for $50, which bag is going to be in more demand?

the guy selling it for fifty dollars is illegal and the bag selling for one hundred dollars is legal. only illegals do it, your way.

If the government outlaws the $50 bag of weed and only allows the $100 bag of weed will your demand for weed remain the same, increase or decrease?

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

fifty cents or one hundred cents?

The government just doubled the cost of your weed.
Does that increased price impact your demand or not?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, more people will be able to afford to pay more.

Let's nail down the impact on employers before we talk about the spending spree the workers will embark upon.

AC is 0.25 per hour. it goes up to 0.50. People learn to live without AC.