Chick-fil-A restaurant in CA will pay employees $17 an hour

[hadit]

Reading comprehension helps.

The economic factor is that there are no, lawful buyers for less than the minimum wage; a de jure, monopsony.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?

Oooh! Oooh! I know! Since demand for labor rises as its cost rises and increasing the MW doesn't have any negative effects on employment, let's set the MW at $100/hr and eliminate poverty all together.

set the tax rate to zero, first right wingers.

We're not talking about the tax rate, are we? Answer the question honestly.

it is about special pleading.

And there you go again, wandering off into the sunset, muttering your 5 random phrases, hoping that this time will be different and we'll actually think you're saying something significant.

 

[hadit]

lol you don't know jack shit

I know more than you......low bar, admittedly.


No, $17 an hour is, dumbass

Hey, fucktard, it you only add $10 an hour in value, you won't get hired at $17 an hour, you'll be unemployed

at $0 an hour.

Oh pipe down, troll; you're just another spammer with an agenda, and an especially dumb one at that. You know nothing about business or labor costs, period, and you know squat about 'adding value' to anything. You don't even know how to fill out those 1040 EZ's you have HR Block do for you every year. You just take their word for it what you owe.

Anybody who can't pay $17 an hour isn't doing enough business to hire anybody in the first place. IT's either a glutted market, or one of no real value to anybody. That's all there is to it.

Let me guess. You've never had to make a payroll, have you?

If you do it correctly it isn't an issue.

Being adequately financed, know who to hire (which can be farmed out), and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, hire relatives.

And never, ever, face an economic slump that drives down demand, and never, ever, have a big contact cancelled right before you start on it, and never, ever, have truckers go on strike so you can't get inventory.

Should I go on?

The bottom line is, there are factors out of your control that cause layoffs.

My wife got laid off because the place where she worked burned down.

According to the other poster, they just didn't do it right. He's obviously never had to meet payroll.

 

[OnePercenter]

lol you don't know jack shit

I know more than you......low bar, admittedly.


No, $17 an hour is, dumbass

Hey, fucktard, it you only add $10 an hour in value, you won't get hired at $17 an hour, you'll be unemployed

at $0 an hour.

Oh pipe down, troll; you're just another spammer with an agenda, and an especially dumb one at that. You know nothing about business or labor costs, period, and you know squat about 'adding value' to anything. You don't even know how to fill out those 1040 EZ's you have HR Block do for you every year. You just take their word for it what you owe.

Anybody who can't pay $17 an hour isn't doing enough business to hire anybody in the first place. IT's either a glutted market, or one of no real value to anybody. That's all there is to it.

Let me guess. You've never had to make a payroll, have you?

If you do it correctly it isn't an issue.

Being adequately financed, know who to hire (which can be farmed out), and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, hire relatives.

And never, ever, face an economic slump that drives down demand, and never, ever, have a big contact cancelled right before you start on it, and never, ever, have truckers go on strike so you can't get inventory.

Should I go on?

The bottom line is, there are factors out of your control that cause layoffs.

My wife got laid off because the place where she worked burned down.

Her employer didn't have fire insurance or business Interruption insurance? The business Interruption insurance would have paid her salary.

 

[OnePercenter]

Why would you bring up REAL pay?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Americans received raises?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Sure......right after you explain how hourly earnings increased without government forcing
corporations to give raises. Like you claimed.

That's the entire point of the thread. The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Now, factor in inflation.

The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Get ahead? So you agree he wasn't forced. That shouldn't have taken you this long to realize.

Staying ahead of the minimum wage curve is forced? As it should be.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?

Yes, when monopsony applies and there are no lawful buyers for less than the nominal wage.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Yes, when monopsony applies

Huh? Try again, in English.

and there are no lawful buyers for less than the nominal wage.

Pricing sellers out of the market reduces employment.

Monopsony applies. And why is there a lower unemployment rate not a higher unemployment rate if what you claim reduces employment?

Seattle and San Francisco are two examples you cannot explain, right wingers. why is the unemployment rate Lower, with a Higher minimum wage?

Monopsony applies.

Monopsony applies when the only company in town drives down wages.
Who is this single company in San Francisco and Seattle?

While you're Googling for your answer...…..

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Government. It happens by Jurisdiction. A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

Government simply "criminalizes" any wage below the minimum wage. In effect, Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage. There can be No market below that wage, by law.

A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

A minimum wage drives down wages like a monopsony?

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.

How much did government spend? How much labor did they get for it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Sure......right after you explain how hourly earnings increased without government forcing
corporations to give raises. Like you claimed.

That's the entire point of the thread. The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Now, factor in inflation.

The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Get ahead? So you agree he wasn't forced. That shouldn't have taken you this long to realize.

Staying ahead of the minimum wage curve is forced? As it should be.

You said no raises without force.
What was the government force between May 2017 and May 2018?

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, when monopsony applies and there are no lawful buyers for less than the nominal wage.

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Yes, when monopsony applies

Huh? Try again, in English.

and there are no lawful buyers for less than the nominal wage.

Pricing sellers out of the market reduces employment.

Monopsony applies. And why is there a lower unemployment rate not a higher unemployment rate if what you claim reduces employment?

Seattle and San Francisco are two examples you cannot explain, right wingers. why is the unemployment rate Lower, with a Higher minimum wage?

Monopsony applies.

Monopsony applies when the only company in town drives down wages.
Who is this single company in San Francisco and Seattle?

While you're Googling for your answer...…..

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Government. It happens by Jurisdiction. A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

Government simply "criminalizes" any wage below the minimum wage. In effect, Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage. There can be No market below that wage, by law.

A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

A minimum wage drives down wages like a monopsony?

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.

How much did government spend? How much labor did they get for it?

There is no wage lower than the minimum. You could say, Government "purchased labor below the minimum wage and it is no longer available under penalty of law."

The law is command economics.

 

[danielpalos]

Now factor in inflation.

Sure......right after you explain how hourly earnings increased without government forcing
corporations to give raises. Like you claimed.

That's the entire point of the thread. The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Now, factor in inflation.

The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Get ahead? So you agree he wasn't forced. That shouldn't have taken you this long to realize.

Staying ahead of the minimum wage curve is forced? As it should be.

You said no raises without force.
What was the government force between May 2017 and May 2018?

social services cost fourteen dollars an hour by comparison, regardless.

 

[Wyatt earp]

US Department of Labor says.

They said that "Employers aren't going to give raises unless they're made too"?
You're lying.
Thanks for the link.

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Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.
What government regulation forced them to do that?

Chicks $17.00/hr was due to regulation.

Which one? Link?

According to YOUR LINK, the REAL hourly pay hasn't gone up in at least one year, AND if you factor in inflation, the number at the end of the year is actually less. Why are you so against the middle class making a living wage? A tRump/Putin manifesto?

If you read the orginal link you will find out why the operator increased pay.

According to YOUR LINK, the REAL hourly pay hasn't gone up in at least one year,

Why would you bring up REAL pay?
You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Why would you bring up REAL pay?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Americans received raises?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

 

[danielpalos]

According to YOUR LINK, the REAL hourly pay hasn't gone up in at least one year, AND if you factor in inflation, the number at the end of the year is actually less. Why are you so against the middle class making a living wage? A tRump/Putin manifesto?

If you read the orginal link you will find out why the operator increased pay.

According to YOUR LINK, the REAL hourly pay hasn't gone up in at least one year,

Why would you bring up REAL pay?
You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Why would you bring up REAL pay?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Americans received raises?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

 

[Wyatt earp]

According to YOUR LINK, the REAL hourly pay hasn't gone up in at least one year,

Why would you bring up REAL pay?
You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Why would you bring up REAL pay?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Americans received raises?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

 

[danielpalos]

Why would you bring up REAL pay?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

You think corporations don't give raises unless they're forced.
When did government force them in the last year? Link?

Americans received raises?

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

Labor is a cost of doing business.

Simply spending money, could be "inflation".

 

[hadit]

Why would I bring up actual numbers?

Actual numbers? LOL!

Do you get paid in real dollars or in current dollars?

Americans received raises?

Your own link showed they did.

Average hourly earnings increased from $26.21 in May 2017 to $26.92 in May 2018.

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

Labor is a cost of doing business.

Simply spending money, could be "inflation".

You can't distinguish between artificial and natural? Or is it that you can but don't?

 

[danielpalos]

Now factor in inflation.

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

Labor is a cost of doing business.

Simply spending money, could be "inflation".

You can't distinguish between artificial and natural? Or is it that you can but don't?

We have a mixed market economy. Congress, commands fiscal policy and our Central Bank, commands monetary policy.

You were trying to make some artificial or natural point?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Yes, when monopsony applies

Huh? Try again, in English.

and there are no lawful buyers for less than the nominal wage.

Pricing sellers out of the market reduces employment.

Monopsony applies. And why is there a lower unemployment rate not a higher unemployment rate if what you claim reduces employment?

Seattle and San Francisco are two examples you cannot explain, right wingers. why is the unemployment rate Lower, with a Higher minimum wage?

Monopsony applies.

Monopsony applies when the only company in town drives down wages.
Who is this single company in San Francisco and Seattle?

While you're Googling for your answer...…..

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Government. It happens by Jurisdiction. A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

Government simply "criminalizes" any wage below the minimum wage. In effect, Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage. There can be No market below that wage, by law.

A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

A minimum wage drives down wages like a monopsony?

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.

How much did government spend? How much labor did they get for it?

There is no wage lower than the minimum. You could say, Government "purchased labor below the minimum wage and it is no longer available under penalty of law."

The law is command economics.

There is no wage lower than the minimum.

So when you said the following:

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.​

​

Were you lying? Stupid? Stoned?​

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sure......right after you explain how hourly earnings increased without government forcing
corporations to give raises. Like you claimed.

That's the entire point of the thread. The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Now, factor in inflation.

The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Get ahead? So you agree he wasn't forced. That shouldn't have taken you this long to realize.

Staying ahead of the minimum wage curve is forced? As it should be.

You said no raises without force.
What was the government force between May 2017 and May 2018?

social services cost fourteen dollars an hour by comparison, regardless.

Cut that to $7.

 

[hadit]

Artificially rasing minimum wage is inflation

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

Labor is a cost of doing business.

Simply spending money, could be "inflation".

You can't distinguish between artificial and natural? Or is it that you can but don't?

We have a mixed market economy. Congress, commands fiscal policy and our Central Bank, commands monetary policy.

You were trying to make some artificial or natural point?

You're not addressing the flaws in your argument. Now you're going to once again mumble some of your favorite go to phrases and wander off into the sunset, only to pop up again in a few weeks saying the exact same things.

 

[danielpalos]

Monopsony applies. And why is there a lower unemployment rate not a higher unemployment rate if what you claim reduces employment?

Seattle and San Francisco are two examples you cannot explain, right wingers. why is the unemployment rate Lower, with a Higher minimum wage?

Monopsony applies.

Monopsony applies when the only company in town drives down wages.
Who is this single company in San Francisco and Seattle?

While you're Googling for your answer...…..

Is there more demand for unskilled labor at $7.25/hour or at $15/hour?
What about at $20/hour? $30/hour?​

Government. It happens by Jurisdiction. A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

Government simply "criminalizes" any wage below the minimum wage. In effect, Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage. There can be No market below that wage, by law.

A statutory Minimum Wage functions the same by analogy.

A minimum wage drives down wages like a monopsony?

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.

How much did government spend? How much labor did they get for it?

There is no wage lower than the minimum. You could say, Government "purchased labor below the minimum wage and it is no longer available under penalty of law."

The law is command economics.

There is no wage lower than the minimum.

So when you said the following:

Government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.
Were you lying? Stupid? Stoned?​

How was it "stupid"? And how am I lying?

There is no wage lower than the minimum wage, Because government is the procurer of labor below the minimum wage.

Only the right wing prefers fallacy.

 

[danielpalos]

That's the entire point of the thread. The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Now, factor in inflation.

The chick operator increase wages to get ahead of the minimum wage curve.

Get ahead? So you agree he wasn't forced. That shouldn't have taken you this long to realize.

Staying ahead of the minimum wage curve is forced? As it should be.

You said no raises without force.
What was the government force between May 2017 and May 2018?

social services cost fourteen dollars an hour by comparison, regardless.

Cut that to $7.

sure; after we cut taxes to zero, to grow our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

a cost of living adjustment.

Labor is inflation..

Labor is a cost of doing business.

Simply spending money, could be "inflation".

You can't distinguish between artificial and natural? Or is it that you can but don't?

We have a mixed market economy. Congress, commands fiscal policy and our Central Bank, commands monetary policy.

You were trying to make some artificial or natural point?

You're not addressing the flaws in your argument. Now you're going to once again mumble some of your favorite go to phrases and wander off into the sunset, only to pop up again in a few weeks saying the exact same things.

Which flaws were those? You have nothing but rejection, not a valid rebuttal.