Can A President Who Hates Business....

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1. History, the instruction manual, is there. We can see which policy is successful, and what is less so.
Warren Harding inherited one of the sharpest recessions in American history in 1921. By July it was over. Harding and Treasury Sec’y Mellon cut government expenditures by 40 %, allowing wages to fall, in a natural recovery to full employment. The cuts, and even sharper tax cuts under Coolidge, produced the long period of growth and rising living standards associated with the Roaring Twenties.

2. No Leftist ideologue, Coolidge understood the relationship between the American people and business.
Often misquoted as ‘The business of America is business,” he really said:
“... After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with producing, buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world. I am strongly of opinion that the great majority of people will always find these are moving impulses of our life. … Wealth is the product of industry, ambition, character and untiring effort.

In all experience, the accumulation of wealth means the multiplication of schools, the increase of knowledge, the dissemination of intelligence, the encouragement of science, the broadening of outlook, the expansion of liberties, the widening of culture. Of course, the accumulation of wealth cannot be justified as the chief end of existence. But we are compelled to recognize it as a means to well-nigh every desirable achievement. So long as wealth is made the means and not the end, we need not greatly fear it.” January 17, 1925 Given before the American Society of Newspaper Editors





3. Obama sees red tape as an impetus toward prosperity:
"Now, let me be clear. The American economy does not stand still and neither should the rules that govern it. The evolution of industries often warrants regulatory reform to foster competition, lower prices or replace outdated oversight structures. .... A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting, coupled with a generally scornful attitude toward oversight and enforcement,..." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/politics/27text-obama.html?pagewanted=all

a. Steve Wynn: "I've created about 250,000 direct and indirect jobs according to the state of Nevada's measurement. If the number is 250,000, that's exactly 250,000 more than this president, who I'll be damned if I want to have him lecture me about small business and jobs. I'm a job creator. Guys like me are job creators and we don't like having a bulls-eye painted on our back. " Wynn On Obama: "I'll Be Damned If I Want To Have Him Lecture Me" | RealClearPolitics

4. Obama's view of business: ".... too often we've excused and even embraced an ethic of greed, corner cutting, insider dealing, things that have always threatened the long-term stability of our economic system. .... anything goes environment that helped foster devastating dislocations in our economy..... a chaotic, unforgiving capitalism. " Obama, Op.Cit.

a. Steve Jobs told his biographer, Walter Isaacson "the administration needed to be a lot more business-friendly...t was almost impossible [to build a factory] these days in America, largely because of regulations and unnecessary costs." Obama and (Steve) Jobs | Mother Jones






5. Rather than identifying the provenance of the mortgage meltdown as government dabbling in the housing market...clearly not one of the constitutional enumerated powers, Obama blames business: "... a free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it. That's what happened too often in the years leading up to this crisis." http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/business/economy/23prexy-text.html?pagewanted=all





6. " Obama capped the first year of his presidency by deriding Wall Street titans as “fat-cat bankers” lapping up obscene bonuses,... edging back into pitchfork mode, assailing Bank of America for a $5 monthly debit-card fee and expressing solidarity with Wall Street protesters."
President Obama at war with himself over Wall Street - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

a. Former Bill Clinton pollster Doug Schoen wrote: " President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement—.... The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies.... it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence." Douglas Schoen: Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd - WSJ.com





7. More than just words, Obama has tried to criminalize business:
"
A persistent media-liberal lament—make that a cliché—is that too few financiers have been prosecuted for the financial crisis. But maybe that's because when the Obama Administration tries to prosecute a specific individual for a specific crime, it turns out there was no crime.... Edward Steffelin. As an employee at GSC Capital, he helped create a synthetic collateralized debt o.... it allowed investors to bet on the subprime housing market, it involved very little ownership of actual mortgages.... Since the Steffelin prosecution wasn't a criminal case but a civil suit, it presented a much lower bar for prosecutors to clear. But apparently not low enough. Last year U.S. District Judge Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum threw out the SEC's fraud charges, saying that it was a "big stretch" to say that Mr. Steffelin had a fiduciary duty to investors." Review & Outlook: Where Are the Criminals? - WSJ.com



So....where does America go....with a President who neither likes, nor understands business.....
...or one who leads it to prosperity?


And why no 'due diligence' by the voters who installed this ideologue to rule over the nation?

What an awful mistake.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

Stock futures point to gains on first day of third quarter - Yahoo! Finance

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stock index futures pointed to a higher open on Monday, indicating a rebound from the previous session's decline and that equities would start the second half of the year by building on the strongest first half of any year since 1998.

Gains in 2013 have largely been fueled by the Federal Reserve's bond-buying stimulus program, which helped take major indexes to a series of record highs before pulling back on uncertainty over when the central bank will end the policy.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

Stock futures point to gains on first day of third quarter - Yahoo! Finance

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stock index futures pointed to a higher open on Monday, indicating a rebound from the previous session's decline and that equities would start the second half of the year by building on the strongest first half of any year since 1998.

Gains in 2013 have largely been fueled by the Federal Reserve's bond-buying stimulus program, which helped take major indexes to a series of record highs before pulling back on uncertainty over when the central bank will end the policy.



"Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine'.....“it is absolutely clear the economy is not doing fine.”
....the notion that the economy is “fine” contradicts the consensus of economists who say this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."
Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine' - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com



Again?

"...this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."



Seems like lap-dogs like yourself have a disagreement with the Big Dog.



Now that we've cleared that up.....

....how about admitting the truth of the OP.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

Stock futures point to gains on first day of third quarter - Yahoo! Finance

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stock index futures pointed to a higher open on Monday, indicating a rebound from the previous session's decline and that equities would start the second half of the year by building on the strongest first half of any year since 1998.

Gains in 2013 have largely been fueled by the Federal Reserve's bond-buying stimulus program, which helped take major indexes to a series of record highs before pulling back on uncertainty over when the central bank will end the policy.



"Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine'.....“it is absolutely clear the economy is not doing fine.”
....the notion that the economy is “fine” contradicts the consensus of economists who say this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."
Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine' - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com



Again?

"...this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."



Seems like lap-dogs like yourself have a disagreement with the Big Dog.



Now that we've cleared that up.....

....how about admitting the truth of the OP.

It wasn't really a recession.

It was the worst financial calamity ever experienced by this country.

The difference between this..and the Depression was the government stepped in to mitigate the effects this time..and right away.

During the Depression it waited until near revolt to get involved.
 
Obama's Anti-Business policies are part and parcel of his Centralized Command & Control approach to government. Successful business know their markets, cost structure, customers, competition, etc...and are able to maneuver through an ever changing environment. Centralized Control ignores market dynamics and invests small groups of (generally clueless) acacademics/policy hacks to conducts experiments without being personally accountable for the results.

Having to make payroll adds a lot of clarity to business decisions. Government bureaucrats NEVER feel that urgency.
 



"Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine'.....“it is absolutely clear the economy is not doing fine.”
....the notion that the economy is “fine” contradicts the consensus of economists who say this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."
Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine' - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com



Again?

"...this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."



Seems like lap-dogs like yourself have a disagreement with the Big Dog.



Now that we've cleared that up.....

....how about admitting the truth of the OP.

It wasn't really a recession.

It was the worst financial calamity ever experienced by this country.

The difference between this..and the Depression was the government stepped in to mitigate the effects this time..and right away.

During the Depression it waited until near revolt to get involved.


Both were caused by Bad Government Polcies, bub...and Obama's recovery is the worst ever because he continues with Mo Badder Policies.
 



"Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine'.....“it is absolutely clear the economy is not doing fine.”
....the notion that the economy is “fine” contradicts the consensus of economists who say this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."
Obama clarifies: Economy 'not doing fine' - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com



Again?

"...this is the weakest recovery from a recession in modern American history."



Seems like lap-dogs like yourself have a disagreement with the Big Dog.



Now that we've cleared that up.....

....how about admitting the truth of the OP.

It wasn't really a recession.

It was the worst financial calamity ever experienced by this country.

The difference between this..and the Depression was the government stepped in to mitigate the effects this time..and right away.

During the Depression it waited until near revolt to get involved.


Actually, a recession became the Great Depression due to governments actions.


1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
The Real Deal - Society and Culture - AEI

3. . 'In The High Tide of American Conservatism: Davis, Coolidge, and the 1924 Election, Garland Tucker casts new light on the election and the two candidates, Democrat John W. Davis and Republican Calvin Coolidge. He quotes Paul Rubin: "We now know that FDR's policies likely prolonged the Great Depression because the economy never fully recovered in the 1930s, and actually got worse in the latter half of the decade." And then, quotes Paul Johnson: "Coolidge Prosperity was huge, real, widespread and it showed that the concept of a property-owning democracy could be realized."

I certainly understand why your knowledge of the FDR era is less than zero.....since you start out viewing the man as a demigod.
Hence....he can do no wrong.
But he did.



4. John Maynard Keynes, in a letter published in the NYTimes, December 31, 1933, warned “ even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery. For it will upset the confidence of the business world and weaken their existing motives to action.” Even Keynes saw the danger in treating the nation’s capitalists as an enemy, as “the unscrupulous money changers,” as FDR called them in his first Inaugural.

Doesn't FDR sound just like Obama's words about 'Occupy Wall Street'?

Keynes' letter applies to the ideologue in office.



It is understandable that you'd be afraid to confront the truth of the OP.

Based on Obama's central position in your religion....what could you say?
 
WWII helped pull us out of the Depression. It forced us to be more productive. We went into dept because of it but not like we are today.

Obama is pumping close to a trillion dollars into the market driving it up to unseen heights. What will happen when all of that free money stops flowing? The market will crash. So will the economy.
 
WWII helped pull us out of the Depression. It forced us to be more productive. We went into dept because of it but not like we are today.

Obama is pumping close to a trillion dollars into the market driving it up to unseen heights. What will happen when all of that free money stops flowing? The market will crash. So will the economy.

And that is the goal of Islam. First cripple the economy....
 
WWII helped pull us out of the Depression. It forced us to be more productive. We went into dept because of it but not like we are today.

Obama is pumping close to a trillion dollars into the market driving it up to unseen heights. What will happen when all of that free money stops flowing? The market will crash. So will the economy.


WWII didn't end the Great Depression...it just provided temporary jobs. FDR and Truman were both afraid the Depression would return after the war ended, and wanted a New Deal II. Fortunately, the Democrat controlled Congress refused, and cut taxes instead.

What about World War II? We need to understand that the near-full employment during the conflict was temporary. Ten million to 12 million soldiers overseas and another 10 million to 15 million people making tanks, bullets and war materiel do not a lasting recovery make. The country essentially traded temporary jobs for a skyrocketing national debt. Many of those jobs had little or no value after the war.

No one knew this more than FDR himself. His key advisers were frantic at the possibility of the Great Depression's return when the war ended and the soldiers came home. The president believed a New Deal revival was the answer—and on Oct. 28, 1944, about six months before his death, he spelled out his vision for a postwar America. It included government-subsidized housing, federal involvement in health care, more TVA projects, and the "right to a useful and remunerative job" provided by the federal government if necessary.

Roosevelt died before the war ended and before he could implement his New Deal revival. His successor, Harry Truman, in a 16,000 word message on Sept. 6, 1945, urged Congress to enact FDR's ideas as the best way to achieve full employment after the war.

Congress—both chambers with Democratic majorities—responded by just saying "no." No to the whole New Deal revival: no federal program for health care, no full-employment act, only limited federal housing, and no increase in minimum wage or Social Security benefits.

Instead, Congress reduced taxes. Income tax rates were cut across the board. FDR's top marginal rate, 94% on all income over $200,000, was cut to 86.45%. The lowest rate was cut to 19% from 23%, and with a change in the amount of income exempt from taxation an estimated 12 million Americans were eliminated from the tax rolls entirely.


Burt Folsom: Did FDR End the Depression? - WSJ.com
 
WWII helped pull us out of the Depression. It forced us to be more productive. We went into dept because of it but not like we are today.

Obama is pumping close to a trillion dollars into the market driving it up to unseen heights. What will happen when all of that free money stops flowing? The market will crash. So will the economy.

1. Yes indeed......the war imposed reality on the socialist policies of FDR....and he suddenly had to turn to the business community.




2. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

3. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”

4. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
“FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America” by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom…




a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940



The FDR apologists claim not to recognize that FDR had to bow to the free-market.....
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

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Does "everyone" include these people? :doubt::

NYT: An unstoppable climb in CEO pay - NBC News.com

Do you even think of how zany what you type sounds before hitting the "submit" tab Katzy :eusa_eh:

ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious :up: PoliChic :rolleyes:
 
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obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

admGDKRm.jpg

Does "everyone" include these people? :doubt::

NYT: An unstoppable climb in CEO pay - NBC News.com

Do you even think of how zany what you type sounds before hitting the "submit" tab Katzy :eusa_eh:

ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious :up: PoliChic :rolleyes:



"ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious PoliChic "


[-Curtsy....]


Now, if it simply "ANOTHER RW hate thread" you should have no trouble showing the errors.....



On the other hand....if it is entirely true........

....you'll have to make me the subject of your posts.



Either way.....I see it as my win-win.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

admGDKRm.jpg

Does "everyone" include these people? :doubt::

NYT: An unstoppable climb in CEO pay - NBC News.com

Do you even think of how zany what you type sounds before hitting the "submit" tab Katzy :eusa_eh:

ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious :up: PoliChic :rolleyes:




"ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious PoliChic "


Technical question....


Shouldn't there be a drum roll between 'precious' and 'PoliChic'?

I believe you'll find that in my contract.....
 
....be good for America??



1. History, the instruction manual, is there. We can see which policy is successful, and what is less so.
Warren Harding inherited one of the sharpest recessions in American history in 1921. By July it was over. Harding and Treasury Sec’y Mellon cut government expenditures by 40 %, allowing wages to fall, in a natural recovery to full employment. The cuts, and even sharper tax cuts under Coolidge, produced the long period of growth and rising living standards associated with the Roaring Twenties.

2. No Leftist ideologue, Coolidge understood the relationship between the American people and business.
Often misquoted as ‘The business of America is business,” he really said:
“... After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with producing, buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world. I am strongly of opinion that the great majority of people will always find these are moving impulses of our life. … Wealth is the product of industry, ambition, character and untiring effort.

In all experience, the accumulation of wealth means the multiplication of schools, the increase of knowledge, the dissemination of intelligence, the encouragement of science, the broadening of outlook, the expansion of liberties, the widening of culture. Of course, the accumulation of wealth cannot be justified as the chief end of existence. But we are compelled to recognize it as a means to well-nigh every desirable achievement. So long as wealth is made the means and not the end, we need not greatly fear it.” January 17, 1925 Given before the American Society of Newspaper Editors





3. Obama sees red tape as an impetus toward prosperity:
"Now, let me be clear. The American economy does not stand still and neither should the rules that govern it. The evolution of industries often warrants regulatory reform to foster competition, lower prices or replace outdated oversight structures. .... A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting, coupled with a generally scornful attitude toward oversight and enforcement,..." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/politics/27text-obama.html?pagewanted=all

a. Steve Wynn: "I've created about 250,000 direct and indirect jobs according to the state of Nevada's measurement. If the number is 250,000, that's exactly 250,000 more than this president, who I'll be damned if I want to have him lecture me about small business and jobs. I'm a job creator. Guys like me are job creators and we don't like having a bulls-eye painted on our back. " Wynn On Obama: "I'll Be Damned If I Want To Have Him Lecture Me" | RealClearPolitics

4. Obama's view of business: ".... too often we've excused and even embraced an ethic of greed, corner cutting, insider dealing, things that have always threatened the long-term stability of our economic system. .... anything goes environment that helped foster devastating dislocations in our economy..... a chaotic, unforgiving capitalism. " Obama, Op.Cit.

a. Steve Jobs told his biographer, Walter Isaacson "the administration needed to be a lot more business-friendly...t was almost impossible [to build a factory] these days in America, largely because of regulations and unnecessary costs." Obama and (Steve) Jobs | Mother Jones






5. Rather than identifying the provenance of the mortgage meltdown as government dabbling in the housing market...clearly not one of the constitutional enumerated powers, Obama blames business: "... a free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it. That's what happened too often in the years leading up to this crisis." http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/business/economy/23prexy-text.html?pagewanted=all





6. " Obama capped the first year of his presidency by deriding Wall Street titans as “fat-cat bankers” lapping up obscene bonuses,... edging back into pitchfork mode, assailing Bank of America for a $5 monthly debit-card fee and expressing solidarity with Wall Street protesters."
President Obama at war with himself over Wall Street - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

a. Former Bill Clinton pollster Doug Schoen wrote: " President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement—.... The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies.... it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence." Douglas Schoen: Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd - WSJ.com





7. More than just words, Obama has tried to criminalize business:
"
A persistent media-liberal lament—make that a cliché—is that too few financiers have been prosecuted for the financial crisis. But maybe that's because when the Obama Administration tries to prosecute a specific individual for a specific crime, it turns out there was no crime.... Edward Steffelin. As an employee at GSC Capital, he helped create a synthetic collateralized debt o.... it allowed investors to bet on the subprime housing market, it involved very little ownership of actual mortgages.... Since the Steffelin prosecution wasn't a criminal case but a civil suit, it presented a much lower bar for prosecutors to clear. But apparently not low enough. Last year U.S. District Judge Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum threw out the SEC's fraud charges, saying that it was a "big stretch" to say that Mr. Steffelin had a fiduciary duty to investors." Review & Outlook: Where Are the Criminals? - WSJ.com



So....where does America go....with a President who neither likes, nor understands business.....
...or one who leads it to prosperity?


And why no 'due diligence' by the voters who installed this ideologue to rule over the nation?

What an awful mistake.


And here is the rest of the story:

"The stock market crash of Oct. 1929 was a natural consequence of the greatest orgy of speculation and over-optimism since the South Sea Bubble of 1720 After a postwar recession (or minor depression) of 1920, security prices recovered, business readjusted, and a major advance began after Harding's death in 1923. Increased investment was largely responsible for the rise until 1925, when speculation raised it to a giddy height. A general euphoria drew more and more suckers into the speculative market; brokerage houses opened branches in small towns and near college campuses; widows, factory workers, bootblacks, and waiters risked their savings to make a fast buck in stocks ...

"Secretary Hoover worried about this fever of speculation as he called it in a press release of 1 January 1926, (he) warned against overextension of installment buying, and even criticized the easy credit policies of the Federal Reserve system, but when he failed to win President Coolidge or Sec. Mellon to his views" said no more ...

"Coolidge, who saved money from his presidential salary, and who never gambled nickel in a slot machine, much less a dollar in stocks, regarded the speculative orgy with detached complacency; his philosophy forbade interference with the law of supply and demand."

Quoted from The Oxford History of the American People. Oxford University Press, 1965 [Chapter 2, Herbert Hoover and the Boom, pg. 936-937

And we all know what was to happen, don't we? The Federal Government did nothing, for President Coolidge's philosophy "forbade interference" and the result was a world-wide depression.

See PC, I do read books. I simply read a vast assortment of books, unlike you who, it seems, reads only those authors who reinforce your opinions. Have you seen my thread where Critical Thinking is discussed. Please do, as I posted it I thought about you and the other know-it-alls who pontificate here.
 
obama has been a disaster across the board. Not only for business, for for everything and everyone.

Does "everyone" include these people? :doubt::

NYT: An unstoppable climb in CEO pay - NBC News.com

Do you even think of how zany what you type sounds before hitting the "submit" tab Katzy :eusa_eh:

ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious :up: PoliChic :rolleyes:




"ANOTHER RW hate thread brought to you from our precious PoliChic "


Technical question....


Shouldn't there be a drum roll between 'precious' and 'PoliChic'?

I believe you'll find that in my contract.....

Thanks for giving me threads to use my material on ;) I don't care for butterfly & puppy threads too much anyway.

As to the OP, YOU ARE aware, are you not, that the two parties have a monopoly on the political/financial process of "this great nation" (Bible Spice- speak) and have for > a generation & don't mind simply changing places at the trough? Thats why the Tea Party was "bought-out" by republicans. Both parties are merely the controlled opposition of their paymasters. They use the revolving-door process: Washington, Wall St, Defense Contractors, Think tanks, wash repeat.
 
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All one has to do is read the economic history of the US to see that land speculation(to include housing) has always has a turbulent crash at the end of the business cycle.
Just because FDR did something does not prove that he alone was responsible for the Great Depression ending or continuing. Just as today, Oblama is not the sole reason for the crash of 2008 or it's continuation.
 

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