Biden vows to ban assault weapons 'come hell or high water'

[August West]

Troll better.

If all gun laws are infringement, give me a reason why 1st graders are banned from taking a gun to school. I`ll wait.

 

[August West]

Biden IS an assault weapon . . .

BDS?

 

[M14 Shooter]

If all gun laws are infringement....

Straw, man.

Now... how about you try meet the challenge laid out in the OP?

 

[August West]

Biden vows to ban assault weapons 'come hell or high water'

President Biden said in a speech on Wednesday night that he will ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines “come hell or high water.”

www.foxnews.com

If I laid these challenges once, I laid them a thousand times:

-Please explain to the class why you think a ban - federal or state - on 'assault weapons' will survive the inevitable trip to the USSC.
-Please explain to us how 'assault weapons' do not fall under the umbrella of "all bearable arms".

As many times as these challenges have been laid, there has been exactly zero meaningful response.

The DUI checkpoints were ruled to be unconstitutional too, until they weren`t. They`re allowed because it`s in the interest of public safety said the Chief Justice at the time. Eventually, people will tire of seeing people leaving schools, churches, movie theaters, malls, etc. in body bags. They were denied their Constitutional right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

 

[marvin martian]

Buy backs are useless……

They're good for gangbangers who want to get rid of their stolen guns.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The DUI checkpoints were ruled to be unconstitutional too, until they weren`t. They`re allowed because it`s in the interest of public safety said the Chief Justice at the time. Eventually, people will tire of seeing people leaving schools, churches, movie theaters, malls, etc. in body bags. They were denied their Constitutional right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Instead of a rational, reasoned argument with references to current jurisprudence, you offer fallacious false equivelances and appeals to emotion.
No real surprise.
Next.

 

[Failzero]

I'm a Constitutional Conservative.

I’m a Shasta County Militia inspired Recall voter / Dominion voting Machine contract ending Conservative Constitutionalist Nationalist Republican ( Who Practices Judaism )

 

[Catsnmeters]

Trump had been a democrat for decades…..his anti-gun comment was just that, a comment…..show us the actual actions he took……

And this folks is what scares me about the Republican party.

They will eagerly blow off a blatantly anti constitutional anti 2nd amendment statement from a party leader in the name of protecting Trump, ironically, in this case it is Trump himself.

Honestly, I think if Trump and the right wing media suddenly started singing a different tune about gun rights, y'all would follow them right off the cliff within weeks while the whole time making excuses and blaming Democrats.

Lemmings.

 

[Failzero]

Stupid. We need to just find the crazies and take their guns, everyone else should be good to go.

The ones on Drugs and SSRIs

 

[M14 Shooter]

The DUI checkpoints were ruled to be unconstitutional too, until they weren`t. They`re allowed because it`s in the interest of public safety...

Your false equivalence fails on its merits.

To wit:
Held: Petitioners' highway sobriety checkpoint program is consistent with the Fourth Amendment. Pp. 448-455.
(a) United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 U.S. 543, 96 S.Ct. 3074, 49 L.Ed.2d 1116—which utilized a balancing test in upholding checkpoints for detecting illegal aliens—and Brown v. Texas, supra, are the relevant authorities to be used in evaluating the constitutionality of the State's program. Treasury Employees v. Von Raab, 489 U.S. 656, 109 S.Ct. 1384, 103 L.Ed.2d 685, was not designed to repudiate this Court's prior cases dealing with police stops of motorists on public highways and, thus, does not forbid the use of a balancing test here. Pp. 448-450.

MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF STATE POLICE, et al., Petitioners v. Rick SITZ, et al.

www.law.cornell.edu

There can be no "balance test" with regard to the 2nd Amendment:

(1) Since Heller and McDonald, the Courts of Appeals have developed a “two-step” framework for analyzing Second Amendment challenges that combines history with means-end scrutiny. The Court rejects that two-part approach as having one step too many. Step one is broadly consistent with Heller, which demands a test rooted in the Second Amendment’s text, as informed by history. But Heller and McDonald do not support a second step that applies means-end scrutiny in the Second Amendment context. Heller’s methodology centered on constitutional text and history. It did not invoke any means-end test such as strict or intermediate scrutiny, and it expressly rejected any interest-balancing inquiry akin to intermediate scrutiny. Pp. 9–15.

New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., INC. v. BRUEN

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Independent thinker]

How can it be done without eroding constitutional rights?

Actually it's pretty easy. I don't understand why both sides seem to have such a problem understanding this. Most of these people who commit gun crimes are people who have been arrested numerous times and let out numerous times. All we need to do is keep them locked up for as long as possible instead of letting them back out time and time again. It's not a case of finding crazies and taking their guns away. We already know who the crazies are. We just keep them locked up and gun crimes go way down. If we keep them locked up we don't have to take their guns away.

 

[Catsnmeters]

The ones on Drugs and SSRIs

So all convicted drug users can't have guns or do they not have to be convicted as we should be bypassing the courts (Trump's words, not mine)

I don't know what SSRIs are.

 

[August West]

Actually it's pretty easy. I don't understand why both sides seem to have such a problem understanding this. Most of these people who commit gun crimes are people who have been arrested numerous times and let out numerous times. All we need to do is keep them locked up for as long as possible instead of letting them back out time and time again. It's not a case of finding crazies and taking their guns away. We already know who the crazies are. We just keep them locked up and gun crimes go way down. If we keep them locked up we don't have to take their guns away.

We`re the world leader in incarcerated citizens. Keep your guns locked up and ban the practice of leaving them in a car overnight.
At least 625 were stolen from cars in Nashville in the first 5 months of 2022. That`s 625 taken by non law-abiding citizens.

Police: At least 625 guns have been stolen from vehicles across Nashville this year

Law enforcement officials in Music City are once again pleading with residents to lock their vehicles. The Metro Nashville Police Department says 873 firearms have been reported stolen in 2022. At least 625 of those guns were taken from vehicles. Just last week, 21 guns were stolen out of cars...

fox17.com

 

[marvin martian]

So all convicted drug users can't have guns or do they not have to be convicted as we should be bypassing the courts (Trump's words, not mine)

I don't know what SSRIs are.

No, that's unconstitutional.

 

[Independent thinker]

We`re the world leader in incarcerated citizens. Keep your guns locked up and ban the practice of leaving them in a car overnight.
At least 625 were stolen from cars in Nashville in the first 5 months of 2022. That`s 625 taken by non law-abiding citizens.

Police: At least 625 guns have been stolen from vehicles across Nashville this year

Law enforcement officials in Music City are once again pleading with residents to lock their vehicles. The Metro Nashville Police Department says 873 firearms have been reported stolen in 2022. At least 625 of those guns were taken from vehicles. Just last week, 21 guns were stolen out of cars...

fox17.com

Amazing how you can't see the forest through the trees. Yes, criminals often get their guns by stealing them and stealing them from locked up places. How about keeping dangerous people locked up so the rest of us can live in peace? I don't give a damn how high our incarceration rate is. It's about time you quit being embarrassed of that fact and come to terms with the fact that the US is full of scumbag worthless people who need to be kept out of society.

 

[Catsnmeters]

No, that's unconstitutional.

Agreed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We`re the world leader in incarcerated citizens. Keep your guns locked up and ban the practice of leaving them in a car overnight.
At least 625 were stolen from cars in Nashville in the first 5 months of 2022. That`s 625 taken by non law-abiding citizens.

Can;t address the topic at hand, eh?

 

[2aguy]

We`re the world leader in incarcerated citizens. Keep your guns locked up and ban the practice of leaving them in a car overnight.
At least 625 were stolen from cars in Nashville in the first 5 months of 2022. That`s 625 taken by non law-abiding citizens.

Police: At least 625 guns have been stolen from vehicles across Nashville this year

Law enforcement officials in Music City are once again pleading with residents to lock their vehicles. The Metro Nashville Police Department says 873 firearms have been reported stolen in 2022. At least 625 of those guns were taken from vehicles. Just last week, 21 guns were stolen out of cars...

fox17.com

No.......stop gun free zones so people don't have to lock their guns in their cars just to go grocery shopping.....and lock up anyone convicted for stealing a gun for 20 years........

 

[2aguy]

We`re the world leader in incarcerated citizens. Keep your guns locked up and ban the practice of leaving them in a car overnight.
At least 625 were stolen from cars in Nashville in the first 5 months of 2022. That`s 625 taken by non law-abiding citizens.

Police: At least 625 guns have been stolen from vehicles across Nashville this year

Law enforcement officials in Music City are once again pleading with residents to lock their vehicles. The Metro Nashville Police Department says 873 firearms have been reported stolen in 2022. At least 625 of those guns were taken from vehicles. Just last week, 21 guns were stolen out of cars...

fox17.com

It doesn't matter how many are temporarily incarcerated if you keep letting out the most dangerous and violent over and over again.....

 

[James California]

Instead of a rational, reasoned argument with references to current jurisprudence, you offer fallacious false equivelances and appeals to emotion.
No real surprise.
Next.

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