Any small government conservatives out there?

[buckeye45_73]

no we are small government, but until you guys are ready to work on entitlements it doesn't matter

Trump ran on no cuts to medicare or soc sec

I know...so he wont cut them.
He's done well with discretionary spending......once we get that finshed, we can then work on the 3rd rail.....we need to or it goes bye bye

 

[dudmuck]

no we are small government, but until you guys are ready to work on entitlements it doesn't matter

Doubtful, Trump admin is the epitome of big government: civil asset forfeiture, aka theft.
And tariffs is just another word for taxes.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

I don't support anything that increases spending and the deficit. That being said imagine the budgets that would have come out of a Clinton WH and tax breaks are not welfare.
What's hilariously hypocritical are Liberals and the fiscal responsibility that they have suddenly pulled from the deepest darkest part of their asses.

Bbbbbbbut Hilary, just to funny it never ends. How do you feel about Rump and the conservatives racking up record debt in a good economy. Remember Hitlery is not president, Rump is.

when did you care about the debt.....

Always, how bout you pork chop?

 

[Brain357]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

I don't support anything that increases spending and the deficit. That being said imagine the budgets that would have come out of a Clinton WH and tax breaks are not welfare.
What's hilariously hypocritical are Liberals and the fiscal responsibility that they have suddenly pulled from the deepest darkest part of their asses.

The only time we’ve gotten close to balanced was with a Clinton... deficits were declining till repubs controlled everything. Repubs are not fiscally responsible.

 

[Brain357]

The budget discussions should have been about how much to cut, not how much more to spend.

 

[my2¢]

I consider myself fairly liberal concerning non-money matters. The conservative side of my politics favors fiscal responsibility. I've heard politicians on both sides of the aisle promise it and neither side has delivered, although Bill Clinton deserves at least an honorable mention in this regard. As far as politicians go, when somebody here shows me a candidate's specific policies that even comes close to balancing the budget then I'll believe in the life of a small government conservative,

 

[TNHarley]

Fuck big govt.
Lets make the federal govt constitutional again

 

[Brain357]

Fuck big govt.
Lets make the federal govt constitutional again

Does it seem to you that small government conservatives have disappeared?

 

[bendog]

We all either renounced those small govt ideals or were sent to the camps.

 

[TNHarley]

Fuck big govt.
Lets make the federal govt constitutional again

Does it seem to you that small government conservatives have disappeared?

I know very few.
Some people consider themselves "small govt" because they are for small govt on some things. On other things, its a different story.

 

[BluesLegend]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

Well lets score your post, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong, wrong. You may want to start over.

 

[Brain357]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

Well lets score your post, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong, wrong. You may want to start over.

Repubs control the government and that is what they are doing. So what is wrong?

 

[LaDexter]

Are there still any small government conservatives.

No, we are all part of the Libertarian Party post W's 8 year Bible Thumping Socialist Porkfest and total sellout of America to the AIPAC lobby...

I left the GOP when W and the Republican Congress socialized senior drugs in 2004. Just how eager was the W Administration to socialize senior drugs and hence flood our high schools with taxpayer funded OxyContin and Lore Tab??

This excited...


Inquiry Confirms Top Medicare Official Threatened Actuary Over Cost of Drug Benefits


"
Inquiry Confirms Top Medicare Official Threatened Actuary Over Cost of Drug Benefits


By ROBERT PEARJULY 7, 2004

• An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged.

A report on the investigation, issued Tuesday, says the administrator of Medicare, Thomas A. Scully, issued the threat to Richard S. Foster while lawmakers were considering huge changes in the program last year. As a result, Mr. Foster's cost estimate did not become known until after the legislation was enacted.

But neither the threat nor the withholding of information violated any criminal law, the report said. It accepted the Justice Department's view that Mr. Scully had ''the final authority to determine the flow of information to Congress.'' Moreover, it said, the actuary ''had no authority to disclose information independently to Congress.''

Mr. Scully, who resigned in December, in part to become a lobbyist for health care companies, had denied threatening Mr. Foster but had acknowledged having told him to withhold the information from Congress.

The report, by Dara Corrigan, the department's acting principal deputy inspector general, said, ''Our investigation revealed that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services did not provide information requested by Congressional members and staff, and that Scully threatened to sanction Foster if he disclosed unauthorized information.'




The GOP proved, right there, that fiscal conservatism, patriotism to America, and truth were no longer tolerated....

 

[bendog]

I went all in for the Wall after I saw the Judas Cradle.

 

[BluesLegend]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

Well lets score your post, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong, wrong. You may want to start over.

Repubs control the government and that is what they are doing. So what is wrong?

Only almost everything you claimed was true.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I'm for smaller government. Love trimming all those government jobs. Also love all the waste he has cut from virtually every department. He is the first president in decades to just cut waste. The budget was a disaster, but I don't see any other way to rebuild the military. Personally, I think we can maintain a strong military and still pay for what we spend. I don't blame you for being frustrated Brain. It does seem a little hopeless with career politicians spending our money like a crack addict.

Can you give some specific examples of the waste that has been cut?


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[JWBooth]

Are there still any small government conservatives. The "conservative", right leaning republicans on this board seem to mostly be big government/big spending. They support the increased deficits now that they are Republican deficits. They support corporate welfare and the government picking winners and losers. They support the government picking winners and losers with tariffs. Just curious if there are still any real small government conservatives out there.

As soon as anybody suggests bringing pentagram and surveillance state spending down, out the window goes any semblance of conservatism.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

no we are small government, but until you guys are ready to work on entitlements it doesn't matter

By you guys you mean independents? Shouldn't entitlements be down with this economy? Do you support our current government even after the huge spending increases? If so I don't see how you could be a small government conservative.

you are no independent. let's stop that fallacy.

as for the govt, it should spend less, well see the budget next year.

The next budget will not be any smaller, Trump did not run on making the Govt smaller, he just wants to spend more money on different things.

No he did run on it. but if you don't touch entitlements it's not enough to show.
For example he has cut jobs in the federal government, his budget was even more jobs gone.....this is a great place to start

his budget:
Here's How Many Federal Jobs Will Be Killed by Donald Trump's Budget

what he has done
Trump Has Cut Federal Payroll by 24,000 Jobs

So he has cut federal government jobs quite a bit...and plans to do a lot more


but in order to control the deficit, gotta work on the entitlements.

Cutting Fed Govt jobs is a good thing but as you pointed out it is not much of a money saver.



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[JWBooth]

no we are small government, but until you guys are ready to work on entitlements it doesn't matter

By you guys you mean independents? Shouldn't entitlements be down with this economy? Do you support our current government even after the huge spending increases? If so I don't see how you could be a small government conservative.

you are no independent. let's stop that fallacy.

as for the govt, it should spend less, well see the budget next year.

The next budget will not be any smaller, Trump did not run on making the Govt smaller, he just wants to spend more money on different things.

No he did run on it. but if you don't touch entitlements it's not enough to show.
For example he has cut jobs in the federal government, his budget was even more jobs gone.....this is a great place to start

his budget:
Here's How Many Federal Jobs Will Be Killed by Donald Trump's Budget

what he has done
Trump Has Cut Federal Payroll by 24,000 Jobs

So he has cut federal government jobs quite a bit...and plans to do a lot more


but in order to control the deficit, gotta work on the entitlements.

24k is quite a bit? That’s like taking a coffee cup to a swimming pool

 

[LaDexter]

Cut the Federal government back to the size and scope it was during Gingrich/Clinton.

Start with repealing W's socializing of senior drugs at RETAIL COST = ie the drug companies gave no discounts at all, but plenty of checks to the Senators and Reps who voted for flooding America's high schools with OxyContin...